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I don't know what everyone thinks. I think the law should apply the law, res life should do what it does, and Coach should coach. Floyd has already missed the spring. "Saving face" by suspending him further would seem asinine to me, if that is the reason they would do such a thing.

I'm sure Kelly knows full well he will have to answer to the media and everyone else for whatever he does, but will look past that silliness while making the best decision for Mike. Only they know all the facts.

Personally, I feel Floyd has already been doled his punishment with more to come. I would let him play the entire season.

I originally thought he should have to sit one game but after thinking about it for a while, I think you make a great point. He has missed alot of practice this spring and I think as far as football goes that should be plenty of punishment.
 

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I don't know what everyone thinks. I think the law should apply the law, res life should do what it does, and Coach should coach. Floyd has already missed the spring. "Saving face" by suspending him further would seem asinine to me, if that is the reason they would do such a thing.

I'm sure Kelly knows full well he will have to answer to the media and everyone else for whatever he does, but will look past that silliness while making the best decision for Mike. Only they know all the facts.

Personally, I feel Floyd has already been doled his punishment with more to come. I would let him play the entire season.

Agreed spring ball is alot more benficial than most think, even for the stars. It is the same thing as when the pro's have their mini camps. It helps keep them in shape and if the coach wants to install more wrinkles into their system, this is the chance. Floyd is missing all of that.
 

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Mike seems like a really good guy. No doubt he will learn from this. I am glad he has a second chance at this. Of course, on a football standpoint, it makes our team much better.


I definitely agree. I think they realized that in the meeting, they realized that he understood how serious it was what he did and they believe he is mature enough to learn from it and grow on his own.
Can't wait to see him on the field.
 

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I don't know what everyone thinks. I think the law should apply the law, res life should do what it does, and Coach should coach. Floyd has already missed the spring. "Saving face" by suspending him further would seem asinine to me, if that is the reason they would do such a thing.

I'm sure Kelly knows full well he will have to answer to the media and everyone else for whatever he does, but will look past that silliness while making the best decision for Mike. Only they know all the facts.

Personally, I feel Floyd has already been doled his punishment with more to come. I would let him play the entire season.


Rep'd! This is right and what I have been saying. Its easy to just do what is looked at as right and do what the media..etc expects but what about whats best for Floyd? I think thats what Kelly truly cares about.
 
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ESPN is probably waiting for the important details: What will be imposed, is he scott-free, and the extent of decision making items along with time lines involved.
 

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... which is almost unpossible but I just did it"

Yeah, I'm going there with the elitist grammar police thing.

Welcome aboard!!! Just tell me where to send the badge and framed commendation.

As for me, I hope that all the negative attention and consequences vis-a-vis his family, the university, his participation with and on the team and legal ramifications penetrate his gilt helmet to shake him up.

ND has won games without him. They've also lost some without him. They've also lost some with him.

I can only hope that whatever his mother, Res-Life, the legal system and Brian Kelly deem appropriate punishment helps him live up to his potential.
 

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Mike seems like a really good guy. No doubt he will learn from this. I am glad he has a second chance at this. Of course, on a football standpoint, it makes our team much better.

Sorry bro, but I gotta call b.s. on this one. Most athletes 'seem like good guys'. Then you get to know them through their actions, and you'll find that many of them are arrogant, self-righteous bastards who care about one thing...themselves. When you are pampered and fawned upon since you were 8 yrs old, I can see why that happens.

How many athletes have to be exposed as complete a-holes before we realize that we DON'T know them at all. Tiger Woods anyone? It's funny, my wife was dating a professional football player before she met me (she really scored by marrying a teacher instead of a multimillionaire!!!), and the dude was a total player; but super nice to her and treated her well and all that jazz. But guys, we don't really know these guys. Be real here.

Floyd has a great back-story and you're right he SEEMS like a good guy. But we don't know that for sure, and we don't know that he'll learn from this. He could just as easily look at this and say that he got out of spring ball and got a slap on the wrist (see: Ray Malauga), and he might be laughing at us right now. I HOPE that's not the truth, but I'm just saying, out here in L.A. I've been around a lot of athletes and know people who know superstars, and trust me, these people aren't what you think they are.

I know I'm in the minority and that's cool...we're all Irish fans so it's all good. But in staying consistent with my earlier posts, I still think he deserves a couple games suspension, and nothing I've read has changed my opinion.

Whatever, looks like it's done now, so I hope he really does go out and change his ways...
 

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lol thanks bro! :)
So, basically, your straight out saying that ResLife doesn't care about Floyd and is really just consumed with the Football program's success. That they didn't have Floyd's best interest in mind (when no doubt they knew the heat they would take from letting him off lightly, as the outsiders will see it).
You are totally undermining the decision process that they went through and you are assuming that you know better than all of them. Of course, you were there at the hearing and heard what went on and Floyd's side of it as well right?

Floyd's side is he drank and drove, period. Floyd is at ND to be a student athlete and is there on his athletic merit. While I understand your viewpoint, don't ever come down on Florida or USC or UM if some player on their end does the same thing and gets off easy.

I just find it hypocritical that fans of ND can say that other universities don't discipline their players, but when its one of our own its ok. Looking at the facts that are out there, and previous alcohol related incidents, in my humble opinion I thought he deserved games off. While the previous incidents didn't go anywhere it is now a pattern behavior. Like I said, had this been the first and only incident then I would agree.
 
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Didn't it all start with something like: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you?"
 

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Sorry bro, but I gotta call b.s. on this one. Most athletes 'seem like good guys'. Then you get to know them through their actions, and you'll find that many of them are arrogant, self-righteous bastards who care about one thing...themselves. When you are pampered and fawned upon since you were 8 yrs old, I can see why that happens.

How many athletes have to be exposed as complete a-holes before we realize that we DON'T know them at all. Tiger Woods anyone? It's funny, my wife was dating a professional football player before she met me (she really scored by marrying a teacher instead of a multimillionaire!!!), and the dude was a total player; but super nice to her and treated her well and all that jazz. But guys, we don't really know these guys. Be real here.

Floyd has a great back-story and you're right he SEEMS like a good guy. But we don't know that for sure, and we don't know that he'll learn from this. He could just as easily look at this and say that he got out of spring ball and got a slap on the wrist (see: Ray Malauga), and he might be laughing at us right now. I HOPE that's not the truth, but I'm just saying, out here in L.A. I've been around a lot of athletes and know people who know superstars, and trust me, these people aren't what you think they are.

I know I'm in the minority and that's cool...we're all Irish fans so it's all good. But in staying consistent with my earlier posts, I still think he deserves a couple games suspension, and nothing I've read has changed my opinion.

Whatever, looks like it's done now, so I hope he really does go out and change his ways...

To counter that, I actually know Floyd and talked with him but back when he was a Freshmen and he was a good guy. But till this day he is still very close with people that are very close to me and from all accounts he is a great guy. The only thing they have ever said bad about him is how he would call people at early hours in the morning just to talk, or as some would know it as "drunk dialing". Other than that he is a great guy, the only thing i ever got from him from talking to him in a non fan atmosphere, is that he knows that he is good at football. So call that arrogance or confidence but in reality it is the truth.
 

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Floyd's side is he drank and drove, period. Floyd is at ND to be a student athlete and is there on his athletic merit. While I understand your viewpoint, don't ever come down on Florida or USC or UM if some player on their end does the same thing and gets off easy.

I just find it hypocritical that fans of ND can say that other universities don't discipline their players, but when its one of our own its ok. Looking at the facts that are out there, and previous alcohol related incidents, in my humble opinion I thought he deserved games off. While the previous incidents didn't go anywhere it is now a pattern behavior. Like I said, had this been the first and only incident then I would agree.


FYI, I've never said the SEC players get off easy. I don't think its fair of you to just assume all situations are the same across the board when you haven't the slightest clue on what actually goes on. The SEC players might as well have gotten off easy, Michael Floyd may have gotten off easy, and both or either may not have.
But, I've followed The University of Notre Dame, and I trust their standards and they're way of handling things. I can't say the same about any other program, either about following them or trusting them.
I know that ND have handled themselves far above the rest and I can only hope and trust that they did here as well. Experience of the program is what makes me trust them in this instance, haven't they proven the same to you? I can't stand it when someone holds themselves above the rest just for the sake of self righteousness.


new article for the rest of ye alls ;)
FanFeedr | NCAA Football | 09 Apr 11 | With path cleared, Floyd takes on a new journey
 

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lmfao! I didn't even catch that the first time I read it on that site!

And we forgive you brah. We get wiser as we get older. It probably wasn't even your fault you were a skunkbear fan in the first place...peer pressure? :bigsmile:

I was a local.....griping in the sandbox with NDOM in my Underoos..... I have obviously seen the light.....and getting pelted with marshmallows in the Big House in '93 didn't help their cause.
 
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Sorry bro, but I gotta call b.s. on this one. Most athletes 'seem like good guys'. Then you get to know them through their actions, and you'll find that many of them are arrogant, self-righteous bastards who care about one thing...themselves. When you are pampered and fawned upon since you were 8 yrs old, I can see why that happens.

How many athletes have to be exposed as complete a-holes before we realize that we DON'T know them at all. Tiger Woods anyone? It's funny, my wife was dating a professional football player before she met me (she really scored by marrying a teacher instead of a multimillionaire!!!), and the dude was a total player; but super nice to her and treated her well and all that jazz. But guys, we don't really know these guys. Be real here.

Floyd has a great back-story and you're right he SEEMS like a good guy. But we don't know that for sure, and we don't know that he'll learn from this. He could just as easily look at this and say that he got out of spring ball and got a slap on the wrist (see: Ray Malauga), and he might be laughing at us right now. I HOPE that's not the truth, but I'm just saying, out here in L.A. I've been around a lot of athletes and know people who know superstars, and trust me, these people aren't what you think they are.

I know I'm in the minority and that's cool...we're all Irish fans so it's all good. But in staying consistent with my earlier posts, I still think he deserves a couple games suspension, and nothing I've read has changed my opinion.

Whatever, looks like it's done now, so I hope he really does go out and change his ways...

I see your point.

My feelings towards this situation are little different. I have no right to judge because I was in the same situation as Michael when I was 19. I was playing junior hockey in Quebec when it happened, and I let a lot of people down. It pretty much ended my career, and a lot of people were very judgmental towards me. That was very difficult psychologically on me. I knew what I did was wrong, but it kept bringing me down. So, I had to make a choice. Either I feel sorry for myself, or I move on and try to be a better person. I did just that. I went back to school trying to better myself and also trying to never let something like that happen ever again. I was never a bad person, but that incident helped me realize some things.

Obviously, I don't really know Michael. He kinda reminds me of myself from what I can gather. This shy guy in public, but goofy around the people he cares about. I guess time will tell if I am right or wrong to believe he deserves a chance to prove that he can be the better man. I really hope he does, and that he can inspire this team.
 

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I see your point.

My feelings towards this situation are little different. I have no right to judge because I was in the same situation as Michael when I was 19. I was playing junior hockey in Quebec when it happened, and I let a lot of people down. It pretty much ended my career, and a lot of people were very judgmental towards me. That was very difficult psychologically on me. I knew what I did was wrong, but it kept bringing me down. So, I had to make a choice. Either I feel sorry for myself, or I move on and try to be a better person. I did just that. I went back to school trying to better myself and also trying to never let something like that happen ever again. I was never a bad person, but that incident helped me realize some things.

Obviously, I don't really know Michael. He kinda reminds me of myself from what I can gather. This shy guy in public, but goofy around the people he cares about. I guess time will tell if I am right or wrong to believe he deserves a chance to prove that he can be the better man. I really hope he does, and that he can inspire this team.

Reps bro. I got a DUI too, and it probably saved my life (and more importantly, someone else's). Like I said in an earlier post, I deserved ever single punishment I got and probably a lot more. So if Floyd were to get a couple or even many games, I wouldn't be pissed about it, b/c he brought it on himself, and I believe you need to take these punishments like a man and grow from them.

But as it stands, hopefully he will learn from this, and we just picked up (again) a 6 star recruit for the 2011 season...
 

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I just got home to to this news and I'm going to be perfectly honest here... I am somewhat embarrassed. I was, not too long ago, telling one of my roommates that Floyd would be suspended for at least a handful of games because this is Notre Dame and it is highly unlikely that they will let him get off easily. That being said, I'm quite certain that there are penalties behind the scenes that most of us are not aware of (as many have stated already). I'm not going to speculate on whether or not this was the "ethical" decision but I am certainly grateful to have him on the football field.

Now I must defend this situation from my other roommate... but he is a tOSU fan so I will have plenty to throw right back at him...
 

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I was a local.....griping in the sandbox with NDOM in my Underoos..... I have obviously seen the light.....and getting pelted with marshmallows in the Big House in '93 didn't help their cause.

I hear ya dude. I grew up in Sparty territory but I refused to ever root for msu. I'm pretty sure the reason I can't stand msu fans now is because of growing up near state. :cheers:
 

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I hear ya dude. I grew up in Sparty territory but I refused to ever root for msu. I'm pretty sure the reason I can't stand msu fans now is because of growing up near state. :cheers:

It's probably that Sparty fans think MSU is suddenly bursting into the upper echelon of college football due to one season in which they caught every break imaginable: beating us on a fake field goal, overcoming a huge defecit against a terrible Purdue team to win late in the year, close wins over Northwestern and Penn State, and caught the biggest break of them all in that they didn't have to play Ohio State. To top it all off, they got annihilated by an average Iowa team and got absolutely crushed against Alabama. Somehow they managed to beat Wisconsin, though how they managed to accomplish this is mind-boggling.
 

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Frankly, I do not agree with a non-suspension. At all. Its unfair. I won't get into the argument for the sake of my fingers and time, but I believe Floyd deserves at least a 2 game suspension. I would give 4, but what do I know.

This marks the last time I ever criticize other schools for actions similar to this.
 

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Frankly, I do not agree with a non-suspension. At all. Its unfair. I won't get into the argument for the sake of my fingers and time, but I believe Floyd deserves at least a 2 game suspension. I would give 4, but what do I know.

This marks the last time I ever criticize other schools for actions similar to this.

It's not set in stone yet and actually has not been made public by anyone other than reporters. Until Kelly comes out and states what the real punishment, thats when people should judge, until then everyone should just wait.
 

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Frankly, I do not agree with a non-suspension. At all. Its unfair. I won't get into the argument for the sake of my fingers and time, but I believe Floyd deserves at least a 2 game suspension. I would give 4, but what do I know.

This marks the last time I ever criticize other schools for actions similar to this.

This is counted as a first offense(which it should be because others were off campus and minor) so here is Du Lac "rules"... Let him play.

I. Violations and Sanctions

a. First offense: If a student is determined to have violated
this policy, the Office of Residence Life and Housing will:

1. Place the student on Disciplinary Probation for at
least one semester.

2. Require the student to participate in an alcohol
assessment at an appropriate assessing agency and
undertake alcohol education according to the
assessor’s determination.

3. Require the student to forfeit all University vehicle
registration and campus driving/parking privileges
for at least one semester.

4. Require the student to pay an appropriate monetary
fine or perform equivalent community service.
 

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Frankly, I do not agree with a non-suspension. At all. Its unfair. I won't get into the argument for the sake of my fingers and time, but I believe Floyd deserves at least a 2 game suspension. I would give 4, but what do I know.

This marks the last time I ever criticize other schools for actions similar to this.

What non-suspension?

FLOYD CURRENTLY IS SUSPENDED - INDEFINITELY!

He didn't get an ADDITIONAL suspension next semester on top of the one he already is serving.

And neither you, Prister, nor Hamilton know the terms of Res Life's decision nor when the CURRENT SUSPENSION will end.
 

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Reps bro. I got a DUI too, and it probably saved my life (and more importantly, someone else's). Like I said in an earlier post, I deserved ever single punishment I got and probably a lot more. So if Floyd were to get a couple or even many games, I wouldn't be pissed about it, b/c he brought it on himself, and I believe you need to take these punishments like a man and grow from them.

But as it stands, hopefully he will learn from this, and we just picked up (again) a 6 star recruit for the 2011 season...

I agree man. I wouldn't cry over him getting suspended, because the punishment should fit the crime. I also think that the biggest punishment, as you know, he is living it right now. The embarrassment he brought to his family and the Notre Dame family. Also, the feeling of letting people down is probably the worse punishment you can have. If Michael doesn't feel that, well, there is something wrong with him. But, I think he does.
I pray he comes around as well.
 

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I'm going to trust what happens and what the University feels is correct. ND has earned that kind of trust. I don't think they looked at Floyd as a football player, but as a student, and acted accordingly. I fully expected him to be done at ND. Now that he isn't, I have to believe that Res Life saw that as the best option for everyone involved.

This is bigger than football and I think steps are being taken with his best interests in mind. He is luckier than all get out to have not injured himself or someone else and to now be able to stay at ND. I just hope he learns from this. Good can come in all forms. My best friend spent a year in jail over a DUI and it probably saved his life in all aspects. He lived in a fog for decades.
 

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Oh, delightful Irish Fans. You don’t get to decide the fate of Mike Floyd. He is a man whose potential experience in this world your odd ideas of right and wrong don’t get to approach. I, as an engineering student there in the 90’s [graduated with my degree in1995], had the unfortunate experience of meeting the SUDS crew [Indiana’s roving underage drinking Nazis] at the age of 19 where they “busted” me at a party for an alcohol level of 0.06 after the win over Michigan. I was at ND on a ROTC scholarship and it was suggested that I should leave Notre Dame to pursue studies elsewhere. I, instead, accepted the draconian punishments levied, paid for a full semester [thanks dad], and continued my degree, had a very successful six years in the military and an even more successful time afterward. The point is, if anyone of you thinks your concepts of morality should affect the potential of a truly gifted individual, please just kiss your wife and get ready for a season of incredible ND football you can watch on your HDTV. Mike’s demons are his own, as are yours. Let’s enjoy watching him exercise them against the hated Wolverines. I’ll surely exceed a 0.06 this September.
 

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Frankly, I do not agree with a non-suspension. At all. Its unfair. I won't get into the argument for the sake of my fingers and time, but I believe Floyd deserves at least a 2 game suspension. I would give 4, but what do I know.

This marks the last time I ever criticize other schools for actions similar to this
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What do you know. Thank you. I don't think I have ever jumped on any bandwagon criticizing other schools for their problems. Kinda reminds me of:

"Critics and doers"

“It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”

Theodore Roosevelt
 

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Oh, delightful Irish Fans. You don’t get to decide the fate of Mike Floyd. He is a man whose potential experience in this world your odd ideas of right and wrong don’t get to approach. I, as an engineering student there in the 90’s [graduated with my degree in1995], had the unfortunate experience of meeting the SUDS crew [Indiana’s roving underage drinking Nazis] at the age of 19 where they “busted” me at a party for an alcohol level of 0.06 after the win over Michigan. I was at ND on a ROTC scholarship and it was suggested that I should leave Notre Dame to pursue studies elsewhere. I, instead, accepted the draconian punishments levied, paid for a full semester [thanks dad], and continued my degree, had a very successful six years in the military and an even more successful time afterward. The point is, if anyone of you thinks your concepts of morality should affect the potential of a truly gifted individual, please just kiss your wife and get ready for a season of incredible ND football you can watch on your HDTV. Mike’s demons are his own, as are yours. Let’s enjoy watching him exercise them against the hated Wolverines. I’ll surely exceed a 0.06 this September.

AMEN
 
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