Floyd Arrested

[GoldenIsThyFame]

For some reason after reading Kelly's statement about this I envisioned a spring and first game suspension. It sounds as though Kelly is going to give Floyd a chance to handle this like an adult.

It's not Kelly's decision to make and as mentioned before he will have little if any input. This falls under Res Life jurisdiction.

 

[IrishLax]

Best case scenario? In my opinion:

Floyd is suspended for team activities for this semester and gets a couple game suspension to start next year. He stays enrolled in the University and gets his degree.

In the court room, he avoids jail time (unlikely if he is still truly under probation for this month), gets community service and learns a valuable lesson.

I will be praying for him, deep down I think he is a good guy just making a mistake far too many people make.

 

[Irishcop]

I'm sure this question has been asked before on this site, but does anyone think that the way Notre Dame handles these issues has a negative effect on recruiting? Where as these kids could go to the SEC, or Michigan State, do whatever they want and still get to play. I completely respect Notre Dame for the way it does discipline its athelet's, however I also think it hurts on the recruiting trail.

 

[The Polish Irishman]

I'm sure this question has been asked before on this site, but does anyone think that the way Notre Dame handles these issues has a negative effect on recruiting? Where as these kids could go to the SEC, or Michigan State, do whatever they want and still get to play. I completely respect Notre Dame for the way it does discipline its athelet's, however I also think it hurts on the recruiting trail.

Yes. Then for Kelly for they would not be a RKG.

 

[IrishLax]

I'm sure this question has been asked before on this site, but does anyone think that the way Notre Dame handles these issues has a negative effect on recruiting? Where as these kids could go to the SEC, or Michigan State, do whatever they want and still get to play. I completely respect Notre Dame for the way it does discipline its athelet's, however I also think it hurts on the recruiting trail.

Speaking strictly on personal experience, yes, I know it has both been used as a negative recruiting tool by other players/coaches and is a question asked by recruits. Almost every prospect I've met has asked about the strictness of Notre Dame as well as the rules like parietals, etc.

The thing is once the kids are on campus and asking the questions usually their mind gets put at ease pretty easily. They see that you can drink in the dorms and do other things that are totally forbidden at other schools and realize that ND is not Stalin's USSR. But you have to think there are a lot of kids out there that might not even make the trip for fear of the "strictness."

 

[tommyIRISH23]

After thinking about it this for awhile, I've got an interesting prospective.

My first thought was to punish him, and kick him off the team. But, after thinking, how does that help him? He is so close to finishing his degree, and getting himself and family, out of a rough neighborhood. Is it better to jeopardize the future of Mike for the sake of following suit with the almighty "du lac"?

As far as I know, ND is not bound by any act to follow precedent. Treat the situation individually, and do what is best for Mike, not what some gay policy book says.

1. Make him go to bi-weekly alcohol meetings from now til the end of football season or graduation. If he misses one...he out.

2. Random alcohol tests.

3. Make him do charity work with kids weekly.

4. Make him volunteer 1 night a week in the ER so he can see what the consequence of a DUI can look like.

5. No slip ups. If he gets a parking ticket...he's gone.

6. Give Manti a free shot on him with a 50 yard sprint to the target.

All those things will help Mike, kicking Mike off the team and out of ND will not. And that goes for all students, by ND kicking them out is not forgiving, and does not serve the student.

 

[Irishcop]

Speaking strictly on personal experience, yes, I know it has both been used as a negative recruiting tool by other players/coaches and is a question asked by recruits. Almost every prospect I've met has asked about the strictness of Notre Dame as well as the rules like parietals, etc.

The thing is once the kids are on campus and asking the questions usually their mind gets put at ease pretty easily. They see that you can drink in the dorms and do other things that are totally forbidden at other schools and realize that ND is not Stalin's USSR. But you have to think there are a lot of kids out there that might not even make the trip for fear of the "strictness."

Thanks... It's a shame that Coaches would say things like that. Basically telling kids not to go to a school, because they will get into trouble when they break the law, or get arrested.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Best case scenario? In my opinion:

Floyd is suspended for team activities for this semester and gets a couple game suspension to start next year. He stays enrolled in the University and gets his degree.

In the court room, he avoids jail time (unlikely if he is still truly under probation for this month), gets community service and learns a valuable lesson.

I will be praying for him, deep down I think he is a good guy just making a mistake far too many people make.

lol he's not going to go to jail for this.He'll get violated, and be put on longer probation. It's not his second DUI (even then it would be doubtful aslong as they werent within a few months of eachtoher). He got a underage drinking charges, and a dui. Prison's are already over run, and if everyone in that scenario got thrown in jail we'd have 13 people to a cell.

He'll get roughly 7-10g's in fines, probation for another 3 years added on with strict conditions (as opposed to now where he probably has to call in once a month, and stay out of trouble). For the next 6 months to 12 months he'll probably have to go visit his officer every 2 weeks, take random **** tests, and do alcohol classes. Lucky for him too...he'll probably be prohibited from drinking for awhile.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

haha like he'll follow any prohibition from drinking. Floyd is selfish and won't listen to that at all.

 

[IrishLax]

lol he's not going to go to jail for this.He'll get violated, and be put on longer probation. It's not his second DUI (even then it would be doubtful aslong as they werent within a few months of eachtoher). He got a underage drinking charges, and a dui. Prison's are already over run, and if everyone in that scenario got thrown in jail we'd have 13 people to a cell.

He'll get roughly 7-10g's in fines, probation for another 3 years added on with strict conditions (as opposed to now where he probably has to call in once a month, and stay out of trouble). For the next 6 months to 12 months he'll probably have to go visit his officer every 2 weeks, take random **** tests, and do alcohol classes. Lucky for him too...he'll probably be prohibited from drinking for awhile.

Alright good to hear. Not very knowledgeable on how all that works just had one co-worker get a DUI after being on some sort of probation for reckless driving and he got some brief jail time so I figured that was kinda the standard for violating probation.

 

[IrishLax]

haha like he'll follow any prohibition from drinking. Floyd is selfish and won't listen to that at all.

Where the heck do you get that from? Do you know him personally? Everyone here is so quick to be the judge of someone's character.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

DaVaris time? GA3? Daniel?

 

[Irish To The Core]

I like Michael Floyd. He is hardworking and extremely talented. I flipped when he decided to come back for his senior year. But I also feel he should be out of football for the 2011 season. If he wants to stick around and come back for a 4th year...fine.(which I would doubt) On this one it is essential that the university draw a line in the sand.

 

[PatsandBostonfan1975]

This is tough suspending the year hurt's his life more than any dwi will. As a coach I believe you are part father too would you ruin your childs future ? As a fan i'm selfish want him to play of course. tough call

 

[phork]

Is it time to panic yet?

 

[Irish To The Core]

I most definitely don't like it, but Floyd totally deserves suspension for the fall semester. Considering the drunken brawl last year (underage drinking it was officially deemed) this DUI merits it. It is a shame, Floyd worked his a$$ off to get himself through high school only to blow it like this. But he needs to get his act together...the "rumors" of his drinking exploits along with the two run-ins with the law clearly indicate that Micheal needs to sort out some issues.

I feel bad for him, but leniency would only encourage others to flaunt the rules. And if Micheal takes this as a wake up call and learns from his mistake, he will come out of this a better man in the end.

 

[choo choo]

i love him...one of my all-time favorites...but, if he's this stupid (what if he kills someone - everything in his life is gone before he has a chance to enjoy it) he needs to have some tough love...i would kick my sons *** and i hope kelly is a father figure to him this time...

 

[military_irish]

This does suck for Floyd but in reality it hasn't hurt him at all in the grand scheme of things. He will be in the NFL one day no matter what, everyone knows he can play. The NFL currently has players that were on trial for murder, accused rapist, and many DUI's.

Although an ND education can never be replaced, he can always get into another university if he wants to finish up his degree, that is if he actually does leave ND after this and heads for the NFL.

 

[GBdomer]

Brian Kelly says MichaelFloyd won't be reinstated until the WR "has successfully demonstrated he has modified his behavior."

this might have been posted, but this is what Joe Schad tweeted. so it sounds like Kelly will give Michael another chance.

 

[Riddickulous]

Brian Kelly says MichaelFloyd won't be reinstated until the WR "has successfully demonstrated he has modified his behavior."

this might have been posted, but this is what Joe Schad tweeted. so it sounds like Kelly will give Michael another chance.

If Floyd is indeed suspended for the 2011 season, it sounds like he might be able to return in 2012.

 

[GBdomer]

I think its a little ridiculous that you guys think he will be gone for the whole season. I am 21 years old i have made some mistakes in my life and i have learned a lot from my mistakes just like everyone in this world. He made a mistake and i think Kelly will give him his punishment and Michael will handle it like a man. I see Michael missing spring pratice and maybe the season opener. Kelly said he is already going to reinstate him. We are lucky Floyd even decided to come back this year when everyone wrote him off saying he was gone to the NFL. I think we all need to relax and just wait instead of losing sleep over this. Its not like he punched an opposing player in the face, or lied to the NCCA. Not saying a DUI is not serious at all it is dont get me wrong. But some of us are freaking out over something we cant control. Michael Floyd will be on the field for the 2011 season in my opinion but in the mean time Deion Walker where ever you have been hiding for the past 3 years its time to come out and play.

 

[JughedJones]

I think its a little ridiculous that you guys think he will be gone for the whole season. I am 21 years old i have made some mistakes in my life and i have learned a lot from my mistakes just like everyone in this world. He made a mistake and i think Kelly will give him his punishment and Michael will handle it like a man. I see Michael missing spring pratice and maybe the season opener. Kelly said he is already going to reinstate him. We are lucky Floyd even decided to come back this year when everyone wrote him off saying he was gone to the NFL. I think we all need to relax and just wait instead of losing sleep over this. Its not like he punched an opposing player in the face, or lied to the NCCA. Not saying a DUI is not serious at all it is dont get me wrong. But some of us are freaking out over something we cant control. Michael Floyd will be on the field for the 2011 season in my opinion but in the mean time Deion Walker where ever you have been hiding for the past 3 years its time to come out and play.

I've been holding back all day trying to get my thoughts in order, I wanted to say it just right.

You said it perfectly. Reps.

 

[DillonHall]

I think its a little ridiculous that you guys think he will be gone for the whole season. I am 21 years old i have made some mistakes in my life and i have learned a lot from my mistakes just like everyone in this world. He made a mistake and i think Kelly will give him his punishment and Michael will handle it like a man. I see Michael missing spring pratice and maybe the season opener. Kelly said he is already going to reinstate him. We are lucky Floyd even decided to come back this year when everyone wrote him off saying he was gone to the NFL. I think we all need to relax and just wait instead of losing sleep over this. Its not like he punched an opposing player in the face, or lied to the NCCA. Not saying a DUI is not serious at all it is dont get me wrong. But some of us are freaking out over something we cant control. Michael Floyd will be on the field for the 2011 season in my opinion but in the mean time Deion Walker where ever you have been hiding for the past 3 years its time to come out and play.

A DUI is far more serious than fighting an opposing player or lying to the NCAA.

 

[GBdomer]

your right i could of worded that a little better.

 

[irishfan]

A DUI is far more serious than fighting an opposing player or lying to the NCAA.

It is. But as long as nobody got hurt (and I know that it is very fortunate that no one did), I'll take a drunken mistake over a sober one anyday.

 

[WaveDomer]

Anyone who says something along the lines of, "I'm not downgrading a DUI, but..." you just downgraded a DUI. Floyd was not tipsy. He was not buzzed. He was not just over the limit. The guy was hammered. He needs to learn his lesson big time before he does it again and someone gets hurt. Imagine living with that?

I don't think Floyd is some lowlife. I won't even speculate if he has a drinking problem or not. All I know is that he blew it on this one. He did something that could ruin mulitiple lives and he will get his punishment for it. I don't care if "everyone" does it. A car in the hands of a drunk is a weapon. Thank God he didn't hurt anyone. Thank God.

Something like 1/3 of all car crash fatalaties are alcohol related. And of those, something like 70% are caused by people driving over .15. And if he got popped this time, it is likely that he's done it before. Everyone makes mistakes. But guess what? This is a big, big mistake.

 

[BeauBenken]

One question I have is, who would let this boy drive when he was THAT lit? .19 is big time drunk...

How he has a Cadillac is a good question too.

Let's be thankful Mike or anyone else was not hurt.

Now with this indefinite suspension maybe we will see Deion Walker playing...

 

[military_irish]

One question I have is, who would let this boy drive when he was THAT lit? .19 is big time drunk...

How he has a Cadillac is a good question too.
Let's be thankful Mike or anyone else was not hurt.

Now with this indefinite suspension maybe we will see Deion Walker playing...

it never said it was a 2010 Cadillac CTS or another model that is expensive, it just states a white Cadillac. I have seen Cadillacs for sale anywhere from 1,000 and up depending on the year and make. I don't think it is as big of a deal as many make it.

 

[D-BOE34]

Personally lost a brother to drinking and driving. Has he done it before? YES. Has people always been around when he left drunk? YES Did anyone ever try and stop him? YES. Could he have called for a ride, cab or hitched a ride with a friend? YES. However every situation is different and every person who drinks is different. Sometimes you can step in and sometimes you can't. No matter what the reason Floyd drove or all the questions going around, he was caught driving drunk... real drunk! I hope he learns his lesson and doesn't become the guy that scrapes by a bad incident in college just to do it again. I am with the ones that say as much as we hate to see him be done, but I say he should be. We, as ND, should set a standard to all student-athletes, even students, that walk on our campus it's not accepted. It is a really serious matter. Thank God a family doesn't have to suffer a hard loss from this mistake. Hope the best for him in the future. It can still be successful life for him. He just has to make the most of it. If he is accepted back I will be open arms due to the fact that several people within his situation decided that was what is best. As for now we should keep faith that BK will still lead this team to the level we belong at with or without Floyd.

 

[BeauBenken]

it never said it was a 2010 Cadillac CTS or another model that is expensive, it just states a white Cadillac. I have seen Cadillacs for sale anywhere from 1,000 and up depending on the year and make. I don't think it is as big of a deal as many make it.

I wasn't meaning to start accusations. You're definitely right. It could have been a fairly old and/or cheaper model. There's also the chance it was brand new and fairly expensive. I don't think we need to worry about the car either though.

I would fully understand Michael's suspension for the season too, but I would hate to just punish Mike rather than punish and help him. I think his offenses should not be taken lightly, but at the same time I don't want us to just about betray a player who has given a lot to his university. I don't want the university to just punish him saying "Well he did this to himself! It's his fault and he deserves this. He needs to learn, but we won't be helping him do that." I think the best thing for him would be a multiple game suspension (I'm thinking at least 4-6 games) where he is forced to practice with the 2s and if BK doesn't think he is mature enough to play at the end of the suspension then he can keep practicing with the backups and sitting the bench until Coach Kelly says otherwise.