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Stubborn old goat couldn't call a good defensive game to save his life.
 
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Seriously yo you kno what they are gnna run and they can't stop it pathetic
 

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Agreed. They've thrown two passed and one was a prayer cause Dobbs was under duress. Load the box and make them do something different. I mean LOAD THE MUTHER F@C%ING BOX ALREADY.
 

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well there is a lack of discipline on both sides of the ball. the defensive players well some of them are just huge pussies that dont want to hit. the guys seem to not know their responsibilities from play to play. the dbs arent coming up to do anything.

to overload the outside is foolish, but it happened.

to have a mlb who cant get off a block, read a play or get outside to tackle a cutting back qb is a shame.

its much larger than tenuta, he has no idea whats going on but the issues continue to be in attitude, toughness and discipline.
 

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Guys....this was a truly pathetic display of defense. I could not be any more disappointed with the heart, effort, and mental focus our DEFENSE brought into this game. They stunk up the joint. Plain and simple. BCS who?? Now we have a hot Pitt squad to worry about. You know a team runs and they still run for almost 400 yards? I agree with another poster....MAKE THEM THROW!!!! More bad tackling today.
 
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Can anybody on this team outside of Teo actually tackle?
 

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NBC focused on Tenuta up in the box in the third quarter I believe. Am I the only one who sensed that he looked completely baffled about what to do? Granted it was only a few seconds of an entire day, but I think it was symbolic of his season to date.

Granted Navy executes the triple option perfectly, but this isn't anything new to ND. What is new is that we couldn't stop it. Our players looked lost half the time and that TD pass on Blanton's blown coverage is a perfect example. Is Tenuta making them over think every play? Do they not trust their teammates to make a play and instead try to make it for them? Players weren't staying home with their reads and appeared to be covering other players assignments. on the option...who had the pitch back half the game?? The CB's were 10 yards downfield while the OLB's were taking the QB.

Navy's option isn't that difficult to figure out. You just have to execute your responsibilities. There are only two reasons why you fail to execute: either you fail to do what you are told, or your coaches fail to prepare you for your responsibilites. I wasn't at practice this week so I can't tell you which one it is in this situation.
 

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In the triple option the first thing to do is to take away the full back. Our middle was wide open today. Every play that fullback is supposed to be put on his back but that did not happens. good job Navy uyou guys rock.
NBC focused on Tenuta up in the box in the third quarter I believe. Am I the only one who sensed that he looked completely baffled about what to do? Granted it was only a few seconds of an entire day, but I think it was symbolic of his season to date.

Granted Navy executes the triple option perfectly, but this isn't anything new to ND. What is new is that we couldn't stop it. Our players looked lost half the time and that TD pass on Blanton's blown coverage is a perfect example. Is Tenuta making them over think every play? Do they not trust their teammates to make a play and instead try to make it for them? Players weren't staying home with their reads and appeared to be covering other players assignments. on the option...who had the pitch back half the game?? The CB's were 10 yards downfield while the OLB's were taking the QB.

Navy's option isn't that difficult to figure out. You just have to execute your responsibilities. There are only two reasons why you fail to execute: either you fail to do what you are told, or your coaches fail to prepare you for your responsibilites. I wasn't at practice this week so I can't tell you which one it is in this situation.
 

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I have been saying fire Tenuta, defense is the reason we have lost three games this year, and all because we can't stop the run. Navy has no passing game that is why they run. I agree load the box and make them beat you passing the ball.
When playing the triple option you use your linebackers to key on individual players. The Middle always on the FB. the left and right on the HB and QB depending to which side they run. With a team that has no passing game you can cheat your corners to help out with the option.
 
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our defense was so unprepared it was ridiculous. tenuta needs to go. they stepped up at the end of the game when it really counted, but we should've never been in that position if they were prepared. we (supposedly) have better athletes, are bigger, stronger....but tonite tenuta got out coached big time.

he needs to go.
 

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Tenuta is not our problem...I also thought that our offense looked flat, the only time there was a spark from our offense is when we had to comeback. Tenuta is only in year #2 and Weis is in year #5, I think it's time that we look into our head coach.
 

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Tenuta likes to force the offense to adjust to his defense instead of scheming a defense to stop different offenses. That hurt us today and at Michigan. Oh and one other thing. HIS CONTRACT ENDS AFTER THIS YEAR, THERE IS NO NEED TO FIRE HIM SO PLEASE CLOSE OR RENAME THIS STUPID THREAD
 

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If you think you stink. The ND defenses seemed to "think" too much. Several of these boys have seen the triple option in H.S. and should understand the plan to stop it. To defend the triple option requires good tackling and discipline. The defensive staff does not make tackles, the players do. You can't always blame the coaches.
 

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Difference between Minter and Tenuta. Minter defenese could stop Navy. The problem with Minter were our corners which were having the same problem this year again..
 
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Tenuta is not our problem...I also thought that our offense looked flat, the only time there was a spark from our offense is when we had to comeback. Tenuta is only in year #2 and Weis is in year #5, I think it's time that we look into our head coach.

While the offense sputtered today, I think a big part of them not being able to get into a rythem was the inability of the defense to stop a Navy offense that kept our offense off the field and controlled the clock. It was the same old story for the defense against Navy as it has been all season (missed tackles, confusion, role responsabilities, inability to get off the field, etc). I think the unfortunate reality is somebody will need to be held accountable this season and I am guessing if Weis is retained, it will be Tenuta and the defensive coaching staff.
 

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Ha good point dirtysecret. I never thought we would see the day where we miss Minter. Here we are.

Another note: Tenuta IS NOT that good to be as big of an asshole as he is to the media every week
 

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Ha good point dirtysecret. I never thought we would see the day where we miss Minter. Here we are.

Another note: Tenuta IS NOT that good to be as big of an asshole as he is to the media every week

Funny thing is Minter 4-3 scheme was to complicated for players to understand. All I'm seeing out there now is a confuse defense with Tenuta scheme. So whose scheme is more confusing for players to understand Minter or Tenuta.. Never sought an urgency out of players on what to do with Minter scheme as I have now with Tenuta. The problem with Minter was the word "blitz" wasn't in his vocabulary they were more delay blitz than anything.
 
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Go ahead and fire im now. This two headed monster coaching BS never works. Let CB do his thing and if he can't show an improved inspired D the rest of the year he can go too. I keep hearing what a great recruiter he is but I also hear that we don't have the studs we need on D. Tell me a year when we have had a sittier D? CW's defenses have been the worst in ND history. Ty's were better, Davies were better, Lou's of course were better, Devine's were better and of course so were Ara's. I'll stop there but this D = BS!
 

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If you think you stink. The ND defenses seemed to "think" too much. Several of these boys have seen the triple option in H.S. and should understand the plan to stop it. To defend the triple option requires good tackling and discipline. The defensive staff does not make tackles, the players do. You can't always blame the coaches.

I've said this all year. Keep it simple stupid. Play friggen football.
 

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Tenuta is not our problem...I also thought that our offense looked flat, the only time there was a spark from our offense is when we had to comeback. Tenuta is only in year #2 and Weis is in year #5, I think it's time that we look into our head coach.

This coming from the same guy who said that Clausen was worried about Dayne taking his job as late as 2 weeks ago? And that now he wont be looking over his shoulder?

Do you not realize that Weis DOES NOT CALL THE DEFENSIVE PLAYS. Blame Weis for alot of things, there is plenty there to keep him busy, but yesterday's defensive effort is ALL on Tenuta. Did you see the TD pass? Blanton had his arms up like he didnt know what to do. These guys are lost out there and Tenuta is doing nothing about it. There is a severe lack of leadership on the defensive side of the ball. Guys lining up in wrong positions. Not tackling properly. That all falls at the feet of Tenuta.

But like Jason said, Tenuta will not be back next year regardless. His contract is up. Case closed.
 

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Not exactly sure what to think of Tenuta. I for one was thrilled to see come to ND. Is it that he forgot to coach all of a sudden or that he doesn't yet have the personnel to suit his scheme? Only thing I feel confident about on defense is our line with Hart/Young!!!!
 

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I think the thing that irritates me the most is reading something like this:

“I think the one thing that helped us, and I really hope this doesn't come across wrong, was last year, because we knew that they'd line up the same way,” Niumatalolo said. “We didn't execute very well last year. They did a great job against us last year defensively, so we had a pretty good clue that they were going to come back and do the same things as they did last year. We had a few (new wrinkles). But it was still a grind.” - Ken Niumatalolo

South Bend Tribune: Notre Dame football: Red zone flame outs cost Irish

Really? "line up the same way"? Un-f***in' believeable! That initself speaks volumes. Tenuta should be gone, not just based on the play on Saturday, but on the last 2 seasons. I was overjoyed when he came to ND. But it's obvious that he believes that he's the wizard of the defense. And our defense absolutelly sucks.
 

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Its funny that people have all this patience with Weis but are ready to kick Tenuta's ass to the curb after a very short stint. Didnt Weis only win 3 games without Tenuta running the defense? Where were all these people then? You cant continually give Weis a pass and time if you're not willing to do the same for Tenuta. Its called hypocritical for those that care. Fire 'em both or keep 'em both.
 

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Its funny that people have all this patience with Weis but are ready to kick Tenuta's ass to the curb after a very short stint. Didnt Weis only win 3 games without Tenuta running the defense? Where were all these people then? You cant continually give Weis a pass and time if you're not willing to do the same for Tenuta. Its called hypocritical for those that care. Fire 'em both or keep 'em both.

I get your point. But Tenuta will not be back so arguing about whether he should be fired or not is really pointless.
 

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Its funny that people have all this patience with Weis but are ready to kick Tenuta's ass to the curb after a very short stint. Didnt Weis only win 3 games without Tenuta running the defense? Where were all these people then? You cant continually give Weis a pass and time if you're not willing to do the same for Tenuta. Its called hypocritical for those that care. Fire 'em both or keep 'em both.

Tenuta's contract is up at the end of this season. he's gone no matter what. Weis, on the other hand, has the opportunity to stay for another year (if not more). It's entirely up to him though.
 

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Its funny that people have all this patience with Weis but are ready to kick Tenuta's ass to the curb after a very short stint. Didnt Weis only win 3 games without Tenuta running the defense? Where were all these people then? You cant continually give Weis a pass and time if you're not willing to do the same for Tenuta. Its called hypocritical for those that care. Fire 'em both or keep 'em both.

Tenuta has only been calling plays this year so your math on Weis's winning percentage without him is way off. Corwin Brown called plays last year, but the Navy scheme was horrible and that is Tenuta's job.
 
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