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Or maybe Avery Davis starts at nickel and Crawford starts opposite Pride...so many possibilities.....


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Looks like Armstrong, Davis, and Griffith were players of the day.
 

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Again, with both, nobody had confirmed info on what was the cause of the suspension or where each player was in each respect. Based on the reports from the offseason and Kelly's comments, he's closer to Dexter than Stepherson. He's actually somewhat involved in practice, was deemed "starving" by Balis, but it appears clear that he'll be out for some time. With Stepherson, there was virtually nothing on him. He was MIA in practice reps, heard nothing about him minus the Kelly coach speak. He's not speaking as glowingly about him as Dexter, but it's definitely nothing like KS.

On top of that, KS was going to be fine if he stayed out of trouble after he came back. He obviously didn't.

I'll take the analysts word over yours 10 times out of 10. They were very alarmed about the comments that BK made at his presser and they certainly saw his non use at the first practice. There's no doubt this kid has a long way to go to get back in the good graces of BK.
 

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I'll take the analysts word over yours 10 times out of 10. They were very alarmed about the comments that BK made at his presser and they certainly saw his non use at the first practice. There's no doubt this kid has a long way to go to get back in the good graces of BK.

There's very much doubt. Very much.

Prister is a quality analyst, but we have zero information on what happened with Austin. We do know that Stepherson was arrested before in 2016, then followed that up with another incident (resulting in the unofficial 4 game suspension).

Austin very well may have had a similar run-in, but his issues didn't stem from an arrest, which caused ND public embarrassment. This, combined with what followed makes the comparisons to Stepherson disingenuous.

Austin's involvement has been severely limited, so it's easy to assume he'll be out for a few games. However, unlike Stepherson, Austin is still being somewhat involved and was involved in spring. Stepherson got essentially zero reps in the spring and fall of 2017.

I don't really care what Prister is speculating about. It is just that. Speculation. Pretty much all of ISD don't compare him to Stepherson at all, but are tempering their expectations on him. It's semantics at this point, whether he ends up like Williams or Stepherson. He's clearly not a no-show, or else he wouldn't have been "starving" by Balis standards, so that's something. It's up to him whether he ends up more like Dexter or more like Stepherson, because how those two responded were the key difference. Based on what's been discussed over the offseason, I have no reason to believe he will go down the Stepherson path.
 

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There's very much doubt. Very much.

Prister is a quality analyst, but we have zero information on what happened with Austin. We do know that Stepherson was arrested before in 2016, then followed that up with another incident (resulting in the unofficial 4 game suspension).

Austin very well may have had a similar run-in, but his issues didn't stem from an arrest, which caused ND public embarrassment. This, combined with what followed makes the comparisons to Stepherson disingenuous.

Austin's involvement has been severely limited, so it's easy to assume he'll be out for a few games. However, unlike Stepherson, Austin is still being somewhat involved and was involved in spring. Stepherson got essentially zero reps in the spring and fall of 2017.

I don't really care what Prister is speculating about. It is just that. Speculation. Pretty much all of ISD don't compare him to Stepherson at all, but are tempering their expectations on him. It's semantics at this point, whether he ends up like Williams or Stepherson. He's clearly not a no-show, or else he wouldn't have been "starving" by Balis standards, so that's something. It's up to him whether he ends up more like Dexter or more like Stepherson, because how those two responded were the key difference. Based on what's been discussed over the offseason, I have no reason to believe he will go down the Stepherson path.

Seems like the only real question is "will he leave before the first day of class?" Hope he sticks it out. Steph and Dexter stuck it out, Steph in a way we hope doesn't happen again.
 

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Seems like the only real question is "will he leave before the first day of class?" Hope he sticks it out. Steph and Dexter stuck it out, Steph in a way we hope doesn't happen again.

While we have no idea what's going on, I feel confident that Austin knows exactly what is expected of him and how long it will be before he returns. Having said that, if he wasn't going to stick it out, seems to me he'd be gone by now.
 

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per OFD practice reports Kevin Austin is playing CB on the scout team (basically the Alize Mack treatment)
 

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There's very much doubt. Very much.

Prister is a quality analyst, but we have zero information on what happened with Austin. We do know that Stepherson was arrested before in 2016, then followed that up with another incident (resulting in the unofficial 4 game suspension).

Austin very well may have had a similar run-in, but his issues didn't stem from an arrest, which caused ND public embarrassment. This, combined with what followed makes the comparisons to Stepherson disingenuous.

Austin's involvement has been severely limited, so it's easy to assume he'll be out for a few games. However, unlike Stepherson, Austin is still being somewhat involved and was involved in spring. Stepherson got essentially zero reps in the spring and fall of 2017.

I don't really care what Prister is speculating about. It is just that. Speculation. Pretty much all of ISD don't compare him to Stepherson at all, but are tempering their expectations on him. It's semantics at this point, whether he ends up like Williams or Stepherson. He's clearly not a no-show, or else he wouldn't have been "starving" by Balis standards, so that's something. It's up to him whether he ends up more like Dexter or more like Stepherson, because how those two responded were the key difference. Based on what's been discussed over the offseason, I have no reason to believe he will go down the Stepherson path.

But Prister didn't say he was on the same path as Stepherson. He just said it was a different situation than Dexter. Which you disagreed with, even though you don't have the info at your disposal that Prister has.

I was just pointing out that you are once again trying to say someone is wrong based on your limited understanding, despite the fact that they are well connected to their beat, and it is funny to me lol.

That would be like if Brian Kelly says "Ian Book is gonna be our starter at Quarterback" and I was like "nah, I know you're close to the situation, Brian, but I just don't think your opinion is correct. None of us know who the starter will be, really."
 
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There's very much doubt. Very much.

Prister is a quality analyst, but we have zero information on what happened with Austin. We do know that Stepherson was arrested before in 2016, then followed that up with another incident (resulting in the unofficial 4 game suspension).

Austin very well may have had a similar run-in, but his issues didn't stem from an arrest, which caused ND public embarrassment. This, combined with what followed makes the comparisons to Stepherson disingenuous.

Austin's involvement has been severely limited, so it's easy to assume he'll be out for a few games. However, unlike Stepherson, Austin is still being somewhat involved and was involved in spring. Stepherson got essentially zero reps in the spring and fall of 2017.

I don't really care what Prister is speculating about. It is just that. Speculation. Pretty much all of ISD don't compare him to Stepherson at all, but are tempering their expectations on him. It's semantics at this point, whether he ends up like Williams or Stepherson. He's clearly not a no-show, or else he wouldn't have been "starving" by Balis standards, so that's something. It's up to him whether he ends up more like Dexter or more like Stepherson, because how those two responded were the key difference. Based on what's been discussed over the offseason, I have no reason to believe he will go down the Stepherson path.

ISD said this about Austin: "What Kelly said today about Kevin Austin, he called his status day to day and said “he’s still a part of our team”, should make everyone question whether or not Austin will play at all for Notre Dame this year."

So not sure why you continue to pump sunshine when literally all the sites (not just Prister and 247) are trending down on the Austin situation. But keep on livin in fairy tale land.
 

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ISD said this about Austin: "What Kelly said today about Kevin Austin, he called his status day to day and said “he’s still a part of our team”, should make everyone question whether or not Austin will play at all for Notre Dame this year."

So not sure why you continue to pump sunshine when literally all the sites (not just Prister and 247) are trending down on the Austin situation. But keep on livin in fairy tale land.

Also, Prister and O'Malley have said they know exactly what Austin did but are waiting on the final confirmation to release the info. It is a university deal not football team.
 

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But Prister didn't say he was on the same path as Stepherson. He just said it was a different situation than Dexter. Which you disagreed with, even though you don't have the info at your disposal that Prister has.

I was just pointing out that you are once again trying to say someone is wrong based on your limited understanding, despite the fact that they are well connected to their beat, and it is funny to me lol.

That would be like if Brian Kelly says "Ian Book is gonna be our starter at Quarterback" and I was like "nah, I know you're close to the situation, Brian, but I just don't think your opinion is correct. None of us know who the starter will be, really."

My original point was that I thought it was closer to a Dexter situation, than Stepherson. I didn't say it was his situation exactly. I didn't hear what Prister said, so I'm going strictly by hearsay.

I never said he was wrong, but I did say that there is nothing confirmed here, so how can we say he is right or wrong? We heard nothing on KJ, nothing on Dexter and I imagine we'll hear nothing on Austin.

Also, bad example on your part. "Ian Book is gonna be our starter at QB" is pretty much cut and dry. There is no speculation on that part, Kelly just says it straight up. That's not even remotely comparable to what he said about Austin, which is merely him being vague about his availability in the first month and where he stands, because he most likely can't say more on it. So what more does Prister or any expert have that isn't speculation? They aren't privy to that information, so all it is is speculation.
 
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ISD said this about Austin: "What Kelly said today about Kevin Austin, he called his status day to day and said “he’s still a part of our team”, should make everyone question whether or not Austin will play at all for Notre Dame this year."

So not sure why you continue to pump sunshine when literally all the sites (not just Prister and 247) are trending down on the Austin situation. But keep on livin in fairy tale land.

Lol. Sunshine pumping? No, I never said my stock is up or down on Austin. I've stated countless times that Austin is going to have to put in some major work moving forward if he doesn't want to get passed by. He doesn't have the luxury of Stepherson who was solidly one of the top returning receivers on the team. Austin has Keys, Lenzy, Wilkins and now even McKinley to worry about.

Don't try to twist my words into fitting an entirely different narrative. I'm saying based on what we know, he appears closer in standing to the Dexter situation than Stepherson. You mention his limited reps in practice. Stepherson wasn't used AT ALL, in spring or fall. He basically rode the sideline every time the press got to view practice. He also wasn't "starving" like Austin, which indicates that Balis didn't think he was one of the hardest workers during conditioning.

It's pretty clear Austin will be out and he'll need to work a ton to get back at the front of the pack. But to say he's trending Stepherson like, knowing what we know about Stepherson, is currently disingenuous.
 

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Seems like the only real question is "will he leave before the first day of class?" Hope he sticks it out. Steph and Dexter stuck it out, Steph in a way we hope doesn't happen again.

I suppose so. Doubt it's academic-related. If that were the case, we'd probably hear word about his impending suspension, since I'm pretty sure that isn't protected information based on history.

Could just be bad cultural fit mixed with some off-field trouble, but I can't imagine why he'd wait a week or so after camp starts to up and leave, but I suppose you can't always rely on sound logic for these decisions.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Day 3: Got them pads on<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoIrish?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoIrish</a> ☘️ <a href="https://t.co/WGgWRtdfIj">pic.twitter.com/WGgWRtdfIj</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/1158891194350473216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Day 3: Got them pads on<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoIrish?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoIrish</a> ☘️ <a href="https://t.co/WGgWRtdfIj">pic.twitter.com/WGgWRtdfIj</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/1158891194350473216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Cole Kmet putting the double-move on Alohi :yes:

Chase Claypool posterizing Troy :headbang:

(Not worried about either of those DB's. They're covering freaks, and it's gonna make them better for it.)
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">if U out here wit the squad then be smart wit em, <br>don’t play no part in it U ain’t got your heart in. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AGTG?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AGTG</a> &#55357;&#57028; <a href="https://t.co/zyx6XcGCPu">pic.twitter.com/zyx6XcGCPu</a></p>— J. Owusu-Koramoah (@j_owuu) <a href="https://twitter.com/j_owuu/status/1158923529422856192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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The day after 1st day with pads...

I can feel the sore neck and I'm not even playing haha.
 

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Cole Kmet putting the double-move on Alohi :yes:

Chase Claypool posterizing Troy :headbang:
(Not worried about either of those DB's. They're covering freaks, and it's gonna make them better for it.)

Those were my two takeaways as well. Kmet looks like a specimen out there and I'm 100% on board the hype train. Ready for a big year from him. I'll be bold enough to say best statistical season since Eifert.

And Claypool's catch at 0:33 in that video was outstanding. 1,000 yards this year you heard it here first.
 

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1,000 yards this year you heard it here first.

I'll see your 1,000 and raise you to 1,200+ yards and 12+ TD's.

He's going to have a better year than Boykin did last year... Chip Long and Ian Book will both have a better feel for when it's time to force-feed the dominant outside receiver.
 

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I'll see your 1,000 and raise you to 1,200+ yards and 12+ TD's.

He's going to have a better year than Boykin did last year... Chip Long and Ian Book will both have a better feel for when it's time to force-feed the dominant outside receiver.

Assuming health I do believe this will be BK’s best offense.

I wish I felt better about MIKE & BUCK.
 
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