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stlnd01 said:
I dunno. Even as flops go, it wasn't that bad of one. You see far worse in the box when someone's trying to draw a penalty shot. It's also quite possible Embolo was anticipating an impact that never came and lost his balance in the process.

It's not the kind of thing that warrants fundamentally changing a game like it did. But, the rules are the rules and I guess once a card gets pulled, someone has to receive it?

That's what I don't like about soccer penalties in general. The punishment is so all over the map and often doesn't fit the crime. A lot of them are whatever. Drop the ball and play on. Others - in the box - basically hand one team a goal, even if the guy who got fouled was never gonna score. And others - even if it's just a second "whatever" in two games - put your whole team down a man and get a guy suspended.

It seems extreme and it's partly why there's so much flopping. You can garner a huge advantage with a foul in the right time or place. But I am not a soccer purist, just an American who likes sports.
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But it had already fundamentally change the game, by drawing the initial yellow card. What if the Argentinian player had already been on a yellow?
 
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stlnd01 said:
I dunno. Even as flops go, it wasn't that bad of one. You see far worse in the box when someone's trying to draw a penalty shot. It's also quite possible Embolo was anticipating an impact that never came and lost his balance in the process.

It's not the kind of thing that warrants fundamentally changing a game like it did. But, the rules are the rules and I guess once a card gets pulled, someone has to receive it?

That's what I don't like about soccer penalties in general. The punishment is so all over the map and often doesn't fit the crime. A lot of them are whatever. Drop the ball and play on. Others - in the box - basically hand one team a goal, even if the guy who got fouled was never gonna score. And others - even if it's just a second "whatever" in two games - put your whole team down a man and get a guy suspended.

It seems extreme and it's partly why there's so much flopping. You can garner a huge advantage with a foul in the right time or place. But I am not a soccer purist, just an American who likes sports.
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It seemed like he had a foot of air all the way around him when he flopped. If that’s not bad, I’m not sure what qualifies.
 
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I think they should add a rule so that anytime an injury instigates a VAR, the “injured” player should have to come off the pitch for 5 minutes. Maybe that’ll stop these guys rolling around for minutes hoping to get a review.
 
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stlnd01 said:
I dunno. Even as flops go, it wasn't that bad of one. You see far worse in the box when someone's trying to draw a penalty shot. It's also quite possible Embolo was anticipating an impact that never came and lost his balance in the process.

It's not the kind of thing that warrants fundamentally changing a game like it did. But, the rules are the rules and I guess once a card gets pulled, someone has to receive it?

That's what I don't like about soccer penalties in general. The punishment is so all over the map and often doesn't fit the crime. A lot of them are whatever. Drop the ball and play on. Others - in the box - basically hand one team a goal, even if the guy who got fouled was never gonna score. And others - even if it's just a second "whatever" in two games - put your whole team down a man and get a guy suspended.

It seems extreme and it's partly why there's so much flopping. You can garner a huge advantage with a foul in the right time or place. But I am not a soccer purist, just an American who likes sports.
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The penalty kick in the box was a great surprise to me. In a game where it is very hard to score, one team gets 90% of a goal
 
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My dislike of Argentina has become irrational. I don't enjoy watching them play almost as much as I enjoy seeing them win.

They're going to have the crowd advantage regardless of who they play and where they play, and this is going to be true four years from now too.

I've arrived at "anyone but Argentina." Spain, France or England will do.
 
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I've met two people from France in my 48 years on Earth and they were both two of the nicer people I've ever encountered. Small sample size, yes.

The four teams left are the top four teams ranked in the world coming into the World Cup. Guess it doesn't get any better than that.
 
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I’m rooting for France. When the wife and I went to Paris a few years back, despite the stereotypes, the people were wonderful and friendly. Plus they play a beautiful style of ball.
 
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In this sort of tournament I find myself primarily rooting for/against the fans, moreso than the players.
Which is too bad for the French, since the players themselves (most of whom are immigrants and not your stereotypical haughty French types) seem awesome. Though French fans are preferable to English fans (the worst). And Argentina just had their turn. So... viva Espana?
 
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I am pulling for a France-Argentina re-match. I can't pull for England. Spain is generally fine, but I don't like seeing teams go back to back and I think they're the likely favorites at home in 2030.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:

Have seen a couple of rumors, not sure how credible, that Maldini wants to contact Guardiola about the manager job.

47 caps for Spain for Guardiola. As player he did a stint with Brescia, Roma and another Brescia. They would have to pay him stupid money.
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Well he wants to manage a national team, and it's not going to be Spain. Italy makes as much sense as any.
 
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thekid33 said:
Anyone but Argentina
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This is where I'm at.

Shithousers. Not interested in seeing them do it again. I will give them credit, they have been resilient in finding ways to win albeit against nations they should not be struggling with. The last two matches they have played involved some VAR drama that went their way.
 
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fightingirish26 said:
Well he wants to manage a national team, and it's not going to be Spain. Italy makes as much sense as any.
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Italy returning to glory with a Spanish manager would be something.

I always figured guys like Guardiola and Klopp would want to be around their players every day like they were in the club level. It would certainly be an adjustment for both.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
Italy returning to glory with a Spanish manager would be something.

I always figured guys like Guardiola and Klopp would want to be around their players every day like they were in the club level. It would certainly be an adjustment for both.
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Yeah a tactical control freak doesn't seem like a terrific fit for international soccer but he certainly doesn't have anything left to prove at club level, so i see the appeal.
 
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fightingirish26 said:
Yeah a tactical control freak doesn't seem like a terrific fit for international soccer but he certainly doesn't have anything left to prove at club level, so i see the appeal.
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Financial flexibility seems like the bigger obstacle here.

I don't understand going back to Mancini or Conte, but their names are coming up as well.
 
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