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[Cackalacky2.0]

Ty. Sorry y’all.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Augero removed the number 10 from his IG handle.

It’s happening.

 

[notredomer23]

If we are interested in seeing the USMNT accomplish anything on the World stage in our lives, this is better than him being in MLS.

Rumors from Berlin to Southampton to Juventus. Life moves fast.

Yes, I would love to see this young man play for Pirlo and develop in Italy for the biggest club in the country. Hopefully he doesn't play for 3 more managers in the next five years, my fear with Chelsea and Pulisic.

Though they are very different types of defensive midfielders, I wonder if he’s replacing Khedira who’s on his last legs. He’s had 22 combined appearances the previous two seasons.

McKennie is legit. Is he top 10 world squad legit? TBD as he doesn’t turn 22 until Friday. He was one of Schalke’s best this season and can play anywhere defensively and anywhere in the center midfield. Schalke even lined him up at striker a few times, but his best position is a disrupting CM. I just worry this is a ploy to crack into the American market more rather than actual need. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[notredomer23]

Augero removed the number 10 from his IG handle.

It’s happening.

The deal I’ve seen thrown around is a 3 year term with Man City and then he goes to NYCFC in MLS. Some have speculated to get around FFP regs they’d backload the contract since MLS designated players have no salary cap.

As a bandwagon MCFC fan and an actual NYCFC supporter, I love it. As a soccer fan, it just feels weird and wrong seeing Messi in the Prem, or any team not Barca.

 

[CTIDANDREW]

Though they are very different types of defensive midfielders, I wonder if he’s replacing Khedira who’s on his last legs. He’s had 22 combined appearances the previous two seasons.

McKennie is legit. Is he top 10 world squad legit? TBD as he doesn’t turn 22 until Friday. He was one of Schalke’s best this season and can play anywhere defensively and anywhere in the center midfield. Schalke even lined him up at striker a few times, but his best position is a disrupting CM. I just worry this is a ploy to crack into the American market more rather than actual need. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

McKennie is going to need to develop his passing abilities greatly if he is going to break into the Juventus side, especially one managed by one of the best passing midfielders of the last 25 years in Pirlo.

For reference, Weston's passing success rate this year according to whoscored was 80.9% https://www.whoscored.com/Players/338275/Show/Weston-McKennie

The Juventus side as a whole was 87.9% https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/87/Show/Italy-Juventus

Obviously, Juventus dominates the majority of their opponents and leads to a higher success rate, but in the times I have watched Weston his passing is lacking some for a top midfield player.

Although, I am excited to see how he develops at such a great club!

When I started following the USMNT team 15 years ago, the idea we would have numerous outfield players at powerhouse teams in Europe seemed like a pipe dream.

I remember when Landon had a one-two month loan at Everton and won player of the month for them, and everyone lost their $hit...so I am ecstatic that Weston choose to challenge himself at such a tough team to break into.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Though they are very different types of defensive midfielders, I wonder if he’s replacing Khedira who’s on his last legs. He’s had 22 combined appearances the previous two seasons.

McKennie is legit. Is he top 10 world squad legit? TBD as he doesn’t turn 22 until Friday. He was one of Schalke’s best this season and can play anywhere defensively and anywhere in the center midfield. Schalke even lined him up at striker a few times, but his best position is a disrupting CM. I just worry this is a ploy to crack into the American market more rather than actual need. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I agree with this game and also am suspect of Juventus’ motives. I can’t help it though I was recently watched a movie about the decline of the Serie A. Two main takeaways: when the PL was formed and began going international it created a huge gulf in money and team finances which were invested. In new stadiums and facilities and player wages. Serie A turned inward and focused on Italian fans. The gulf grew during the 2000s.

The other is infrastructure. All of Italy’s stadiums were built for the WC in 1990. Most have had little to no improvements or upgrades and are owned by local councils. Not the teams. Juventus recently built a new stadium they own. I think Atalanta is following suit but I’m unaware of others actively being renovated or built.

I don’t think we can underestimate the match fixing scandal either. Now Serie A attendance is down to MSL levels which is shocking to me.

Maybe Juve has learned and is addressing these two points and trying to break into America and get a young stud like Chelsea did with Pulisic.

 

[Rogue219]

The idea that City need Messi to win Champions League is baffling to me. The bar is going to be set so incredibly high for them now. They should win all four trophies and challenge Arsenal's Invincibles in addition to going over 100 points. Full stop.

 

[fightingirish26]

The idea that City need Messi to win Champions League is baffling to me. The bar is going to be set so incredibly high for them now. They should win all four trophies and challenge Arsenal's Invincibles in addition to going over 100 points. Full stop.

bro you literally whine about city multiple times a day on a notre dame message board are u ok

 

[CTIDANDREW]

bro you literally whine about city multiple times a day on a notre dame message board are u ok

It really is amazing to watch.

As if all Liverpool players come from their amazing academy or something.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

As much as I hate to say it, Man City's goals scored next season will be 125+.

 

[fightingirish26]

It really is amazing to watch.

As if all Liverpool players come from their amazing academy or something.

All academy players and the never ending coutinho money.

Plus they had success in the 80s, so they are one of the privileged few who are allowed to enjoy watching their team.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

The idea that City need Messi to win Champions League is baffling to me. The bar is going to be set so incredibly high for them now. They should win all four trophies and challenge Arsenal's Invincibles in addition to going over 100 points. Full stop.

In the last twenty years, the PL has only produced four CL-winning sides: Liverpool in '05 and '19, Chelsea in '12 and Man U in '99 upset. For all its money and exposure, the PL reliably underperforms in Europe. Nothing about this City team makes me think they're going to change that.

 

[CTIDANDREW]

All academy players and the never ending coutinho money.

Plus they had success in the 80s, so they are one of the privileged few who are allowed to enjoy watching their team.

The hypocrisy just bothers me.

Liverpool's starting eleven in transfer fees last time they played city and lost 4-0.
Disclaimer* Quick Wiki search gave me these figures, so I understand if I have some wrong numbers.
Allison: 66.8m
TAA: Free (Academy)
Gomez: 3.5m
Van Dijk: 75m
Robertson: 8m
Henderson: 20m
Fabinho: 39m
Wijnaldum: 23-25m (conflicting reports)
Mane: 34m
Salah: 42-50m (50m was for add on's which I have to imagine were reached)
Firmino: 29m
Total: 350.3m

Manchester City starting eleven for the same match based on transfer fess came in at 397.2m

You need to spend money in European football to compete for trophies....and just because Manchester City has spent the most over the last decade does not mean they get to win all the trophies. That is an idiotic statement. They do not even have the biggest wage bill in their own league. Manchester United takes the cake on that. https://www.spotrac.com/epl/payroll/

 

[Rogue219]

bro you literally whine about city multiple times a day on a notre dame message board are u ok

Brah, they're Liverpool's biggest rival right now. They have unlimited financial resources and are about to get the best player ever.

I'm not whining, but you sure seem to piss and moan about me trying to engage in discussion about the sport. I haven't been anywhere but the grocery store for six months. I want to post about this. Deal with it.

 

[Rogue219]

As much as I hate to say it, Man City's goals scored next season will be 125+.

Yeah. They have some killers on that team, too, don't get it twisted. You think Messi won't be motivated? Collectively, that team is going to be in the smallest fishbowl ever. They'll be ready.

And if they finally get smart and put less emphasis on the two domestic cups, look out. Getting those League Cup and FA Cup fixtures out of the way frees up their time. Nobody needs that.

 

[fightingirish26]

The hypocrisy just bothers me.

Liverpool's starting eleven in transfer fees last time they played city and lost 4-0.
Disclaimer* Quick Wiki search gave me these figures, so I understand if I have some wrong numbers.
Allison: 66.8m
TAA: Free (Academy)
Gomez: 3.5m
Van Dijk: 75m
Robertson: 8m
Henderson: 20m
Fabinho: 39m
Wijnaldum: 23-25m (conflicting reports)
Mane: 34m
Salah: 42-50m (50m was for add on's which I have to imagine were reached)
Firmino: 29m
Total: 350.3m

Manchester City starting eleven for the same match based on transfer fess came in at 397.2m

You need to spend money in European football to compete for trophies....and just because Manchester City has spent the most over the last decade does not mean they get to win all the trophies. That is an idiotic statement. They do not even have the biggest wage bill in their own league. Manchester United takes the cake on that. https://www.spotrac.com/epl/payroll/

Liverpool have obviously been a very well run club over the past few years. But literally everyone is spending a fortune in the PL and across the big leagues in Europe.

United is supposed to be their big rivals yet I hardly see Liverpool fans take cracks at them anymore. As you said, they have the highest wage bill. What do they have to show for it?

 

[NorthDakota]

The hypocrisy just bothers me.

Liverpool's starting eleven in transfer fees last time they played city and lost 4-0.
Disclaimer* Quick Wiki search gave me these figures, so I understand if I have some wrong numbers.
Allison: 66.8m
TAA: Free (Academy)
Gomez: 3.5m
Van Dijk: 75m
Robertson: 8m
Henderson: 20m
Fabinho: 39m
Wijnaldum: 23-25m (conflicting reports)
Mane: 34m
Salah: 42-50m (50m was for add on's which I have to imagine were reached)
Firmino: 29m
Total: 350.3m

Manchester City starting eleven for the same match based on transfer fess came in at 397.2m

You need to spend money in European football to compete for trophies....and just because Manchester City has spent the most over the last decade does not mean they get to win all the trophies. That is an idiotic statement. They do not even have the biggest wage bill in their own league. Manchester United takes the cake on that. https://www.spotrac.com/epl/payroll/

One of the key features with City is that they dont have an "11", they have like '20-some."

But yes lol at ManU. We can all get behind that, just easy to forget about them these days for obvious reasons.

 

[Rogue219]

In the last twenty years, the PL has only produced four CL-winning sides: Liverpool in '05 and '19, Chelsea in '12 and Man U in '99 upset. For all its money and exposure, the PL reliably underperforms in Europe. Nothing about this City team makes me think they're going to change that.

Why is that, do you think? Aside from them having two domestic cups opposed to one and the lack of a winter break versus the other top leagues. You have Real's stranglehold on it. The argument I hear most is week in and week out it is the toughest league with the most parity, but in reality, how hard is it for a Champions League English side to go to Brighton Hove Albion and then play on a Tuesday or Wednesday night?

The last two decades have consisted some really good Barca and Real sides, but still.

It baffles me how they collectively have not won this competition more or have not had teams go deeper into it. There has to be something to the depth of fixtures having a negative effect on these clubs.

 

[NDShark]

In the last twenty years, the PL has only produced four CL-winning sides: Liverpool in '05 and '19, Chelsea in '12 and Man U in '99 upset. For all its money and exposure, the PL reliably underperforms in Europe. Nothing about this City team makes me think they're going to change that.

Don't forget Man U 2008 and specifically this laugher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88cgY8S5nlE

 

[Rogue219]

The hypocrisy just bothers me.

Liverpool's starting eleven in transfer fees last time they played city and lost 4-0.
Disclaimer* Quick Wiki search gave me these figures, so I understand if I have some wrong numbers.
Allison: 66.8m
TAA: Free (Academy)
Gomez: 3.5m
Van Dijk: 75m
Robertson: 8m
Henderson: 20m
Fabinho: 39m
Wijnaldum: 23-25m (conflicting reports)
Mane: 34m
Salah: 42-50m (50m was for add on's which I have to imagine were reached)
Firmino: 29m
Total: 350.3m

Manchester City starting eleven for the same match based on transfer fess came in at 397.2m

You need to spend money in European football to compete for trophies....and just because Manchester City has spent the most over the last decade does not mean they get to win all the trophies. That is an idiotic statement. They do not even have the biggest wage bill in their own league. Manchester United takes the cake on that. https://www.spotrac.com/epl/payroll/

Now do outgoing.

 

[fightingirish26]

Now do outgoing.

I enjoy this fantasy world where a club's only income is transfer fees

 

[Rogue219]

I don't envy Barcelona right now. This situation would be incredibly difficult to try and manage, but they're doing it during a global pandemic. Getting Messi off the books will be tricky enough, but once he's gone, how do you fill the void he leaves in your brand?

Bring Neymar back?

They need a full overhaul from the top down as it is. Now you lose the best player ever on top of that. Complicated situation.

As for Messi himself, he really has two options, and one of them is staying at Barca. MLS isn't viable for him right now. I have zero doubt in my mind that the rumored parties involved won't get this done if there is a sliver of light that it can be done at all.

 

[Rogue219]

I enjoy this fantasy world where a club's only income is transfer fees

I Never posted that.

 

[NorthDakota]

Don't forget Man U 2008 and specifically this laugher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88cgY8S5nlE

Right up there with the Sergio Ramos "effort" against Munich 7 or 8 years ago.

 

[Rogue219]

Since I am not allowed to discuss MCFC anymore, is it okay if I mention Celtic got knocked out of Champions League already?

I know if that tree falls in these woods, at least one poster is going to hear it....

 

[GowerND11]

Since I am not allowed to discuss MCFC anymore, is it okay if I mention Celtic got knocked out of Champions League already?

I know if that tree falls in these woods, at least one poster is going to hear it....

Live look at ACamp:

 

[CTIDANDREW]

Now do outgoing.

Congratulations on winning the "Net Spend Trophy" please show me photos from the parade down Queens Drive when you get the chance.

Look man, I have no problem with you pointing out Manchester City spends a lot of money...just have some perspective about it.
1. We do not even have a top twenty transfer fee ever paid for a player.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_..._football_transfers#Highest_transfer_payments

We are not the ones ruining the transfer market, we have walked away from many deals over the last decade, because of the crazy transfer fee or wage demands being asked.

2. We do not even have the highest wage bill currently in our own domestic league, let alone world football.

We spend a great deal of money to compete with the other great teams in European football, just as they all do. Just look at all the money Real Madrid spent last summer after winning the champions league four out of the six previous seasons.

Liverpool will have to do it again soon, once some of their squad moves on or loses form because of age. It is a part of the sport.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Since I am not allowed to discuss MCFC anymore, is it okay if I mention Celtic got knocked out of Champions League already?

I know if that tree falls in these woods, at least one poster is going to hear it....

shots fired

 

[Rogue219]

Congratulations on winning the "Net Spend Trophy" please show me photos from the parade down Queens Drive when you get the chance.

Look man, I have no problem with you pointing out Manchester City spends a lot of money...just have some perspective about it.
1. We do not even have a top twenty transfer fee ever paid for a player.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_..._football_transfers#Highest_transfer_payments

We are not the ones ruining the transfer market, we have walked away from many deals over the last decade, because of the crazy transfer fee or wage demands being asked.

2. We do not even have the highest wage bill currently in our own domestic league, let alone world football.

We spend a great deal of money to compete with the other great teams in European football, just as they all do. Just look at all the money Real Madrid spent last summer after winning the champions league four out of the six previous seasons.

Liverpool will have to do it again soon, once some of their squad moves on or loses form because of age. It is a part of the sport.

All valid and interesting points, but we are still talking about the most expensive team ever put together ready to add the greatest player of all time, and additionally this squad has been pretty successful on top of everything. Liverpool's mentality this year was, "Fuck it, we have to go unbeaten and not drop any points to have a chance." LOL.

That's the mentality it took to topple this City club, and now they could potentially add Messi to their squad because they are the only ones who can. Throw in Koulibably too. Liverpool finished second to them twice already in recent years.

Is there a bigger story to discuss right now?

I'm sure there will be an ownership change down the line in England where a new superpower emerges. First it was Chelsea, then it was City. There are some other clubs who are sleeping giants right now. If any billionaires get ahold of one of them, they'll be the next one everyone is trying to keep up with. (COUGH COUGH Newcastle COUGH COUGH).

 

[Rogue219]

shots fired

Hey, I like Celtic. I was disappointed as much as I was surprised.