Dayne was recruited by Weis for a pro-style offense. But remember, in high school he was a very good mobile QB. Pass first, scramble second. And following thru Kelly's past his QBs were always Pass first, scramble second. But mobility was always a threat. Kelly has never really had a ****-Rod type offensive setup. Personally I think Christ fits very well into Kelly's offense. He can throw, a strong arm, and has some mobility. But it almost seems like Christ isn't buying whatever Kelly is selling. And remember at seasons start Kelly also stated he was blessed with a better running game than he had in the past, so this isn't totally his usual offense. Within the next couple years, as Kelly gets more players that fit his system, you will see huge gains in our play.
Well, obviously, something happened that that 'mobile'ness. When he runs, you could use a Sundial.
That is EXACTLY what I'm saying. That he hasn't bought into the whole new system.
And I don't know if that will change or if there will be that underlining attitude the whole time.
Thinking about it to it almost appears like Christ is 'childish' in a sense. Almost like any mistake, large or small, crushes his confidence. Or when he get yelled at by Kelly he can't seem to shoulder it, even if the mistake is minimal, or not game altering. Almost appears intimidated by the situations.
Yes, I agree with this. He seems very immature and 'punky' in a sense. Please call him Crist, his name.
Well, I'll chime in here, even though I seem to be in the minority when I talk about this topic.
IF it is perceived that Dayne has a bad attitude, and admittedly none of us know, I could see an "attitude" developing, with the constant yelling he receives. I'm not trying to single out any coach specifically, but coaches in general. Such yelling as I am seeing it, can reek of a coach in over his head and maybe too large a personal schedule gone wild. In the case of Kelly, I think his personal schedule is inhuman. But, all that is conjecture, and neither here nor there...
In my entire lifetime of athletics in multiple sports, I met two coaches who yelled just to yell. They had no substance behind their rants. They simply thought yelling just to bully or yelling because they did not know what they were doing was justified. I had many other coaches who raised their voices, but they were either teaching or getting excited and positive or negative AT PRACTICE.
The first yelling coach I met, actually grabbed and yanked my mask at practice. He never did that again. The second coach was clueless, but thought yelling was the coaches way to do things. He did not last long, anywhere he went. He appeared emotionally unstable. If it weren't for the fact that he was part of the general buddy system, he would probably never have worked again. Just idle and stupid yelling only causes resentment, and given a less public situation, that coach might get his butt kicked by the athlete.
There are different kinds of yelling.
The play in question here happened with :56 left in the 3rd. Dayne threw 2 intercepts in a row, but the first one was caught out of bounds. After the second one, on the consecutive play that was caught inbounds, Crist walked off the field, and Kelly was blood red and yelling. Dayne was walking slightly past, and taking off his chinstrap. It appeared like Kelly grabbed his arm as if to say "Look at me when I talk to you!" It did seem like a rather unpleasant exchange. Bottom line, I don't blame Crist.
And I don't fall for the line "Yeah, coach might yell, but he is quick to praise..." Well that reeks of bipolar coaching. Either be the good cop or the bad cop. Not both. That's why you have an entire staff to balance things out.
Anyway, just a general thought, and of course I am clueless about what goes on at any practice or sideline conversation...
I totally see what you mean, NDOM. (I respect you immensely so everything I write is in debate and not hate/argument).
So your saying that Kelly is one of those Yellers Just To Yell type? I don't see him as that type at all but, in all honesty, I don't really have any idea. I can't tell you how good it feels, for me personally, to see a coach that has that kind of passion for ND. And to hold those kids responsible for their actions.
The "Notre Dame doesn't owe you, you owe Notre Dame" attitude is awesome IMHO.
I think that the yelling might be whats effecting Dayne, but it is his fault (IMHO) ...atleast in part. His first two years were under Weis, who didn't really yell like that at all and from what I've heard, gave a sense of entitlement.
So, if thats the attitude that Crist has coming in and than Coach Kelly comes in, yelling and screaming and demanding better and more and no entitlement whatsoever for any player ...its quite a contrast. You could see how that would affect Crist's attitude and make him indifferent and almost bitter.
I don't understand how you can't blame Crist. It is un-excusable for a young quarterback, that just made a horrible mistake (right after almost making it), to walk past his coach and give him an attitude. He should bare it like a man and, in humility, except it so that he can get better. It doesn't matter how much or hard Kelly yells. It may be over board, but guess what Dayney boy? YOUR the reason hes yelling.
I think a 'Bipolar coach' is a good thing and is just what we need. Wasn't Lou a bipolar like coach? Yelling the heck out of the kids and than being the most excited and congratulating them?
I'll tell you this much, EVERYBODY (media, press, fans) would hate a coach that was just a Bad Cop and I don't think a he would last very long at ND.
And I personally would hate a Good Cop coach, that was all good and smiles all the time (Wade Philips type ...though hes really neither). Theres gotta be a balance.
and yeah ditto what you said at the end. I really don't know but its just my opinion (worth less than 2 cents
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cheers
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