Dayne Crist Bashers!!! Read!!!

[jonesman]

I have seen the rumors of Dayne Crist transferring, not attending the last home game and other ridiculous comments. I will admit that I have been a bit dissapointed with Dayne's performance on the field, but I am still a big fan of the PLAYER and PERSON.

I still remember him showing up for a spring game prior to help recruit for his class several years ago. He stood behind JC for 3 years. He has done absolutely NOTHING to deserve the treatment he has received over the last few weeks on here and other ND sites. The guy has been a class act.

I wish him well and hope he comes back healthy. I am sure he will be given the chance to compete just like every other QB on our roster.

So, for those who were bashing his attendance to the game last week. Here is your answer: Crist is immobilized after having surgery on his ruptured patella tendon, so he can’t get around practice much. Crist sat in the booth for last Saturday’s win over Utah, but was not cleared to travel this weekend. Senor running back Armando Allen, who is also out for the season after having hip surgery, won’t be traveling either.

As for his commitment: The guy Rees is replacing, Dayne Crist, still attends all of the team’s meetings.

“Dayne’s still learning and absorbing a lot,” Kelly said. “He’s staying engaged. I don’t know that there’s a lot of information that is flowing from Dayne to Tommy…He’s at meetings, he’s still asking questions because he’s still in the learning process himself.”

 

[ndcoltsfan2010]

I have seen the rumors of Dayne Crist transferring, not attending the last home game and other ridiculous comments. I will admit that I have been a bit dissapointed with Dayne's performance on the field, but I am still a big fan of the PLAYER and PERSON.

I still remember him showing up for a spring game prior to help recruit for his class several years ago. He stood behind JC for 3 years. He has done absolutely NOTHING to deserve the treatment he has received over the last few weeks on here and other ND sites. The guy has been a class act.

I wish him well and hope he comes back healthy. I am sure he will be given the chance to compete just like every other QB on our roster.

So, for those who were bashing his attendance to the game last week. Here is your answer: Crist is immobilized after having surgery on his ruptured patella tendon, so he can’t get around practice much. Crist sat in the booth for last Saturday’s win over Utah, but was not cleared to travel this weekend. Senor running back Armando Allen, who is also out for the season after having hip surgery, won’t be traveling either.

As for his commitment: The guy Rees is replacing, Dayne Crist, still attends all of the team’s meetings.

“Dayne’s still learning and absorbing a lot,” Kelly said. “He’s staying engaged. I don’t know that there’s a lot of information that is flowing from Dayne to Tommy…He’s at meetings, he’s still asking questions because he’s still in the learning process himself.”

Amen..., thank you Jonesy. I agree 100 percent with you. Crist is a great young man and a good quarterback. He definently does not deserve all the trash talk, speculation of transfer crap and the rest of the stuff that has been floating around here lately. I also wish him a speedy and succesful recovery and hope he comes back in the spring and continues to battle.

 

[Old Man Mike]

There's no questioning Dayne's qualities as a person, which is really what's important here. He was the team leader in getting us involved with charity work in the spring [remember the shaved head??], so no one should ever question his spiritual fiber. We'll find out if he's the man for the ND QB job this spring and summer, which is mostly a separate thing, or at least we and Kelly should see it so. Kelly will, whether we mix the two together or not. Whatever, no one should ever bash any of our guys in generic terms---critique play [unemotionally] yes.

 

[johnnykillz]

Nice write-up Jonesman...

Dayne is a stud. My money is on him starting next year.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I am also a Crist fan and supporter. Although at times I have been critical of him. However, just as you chose to vocalize your support for him, others have the right to do the same in opposition. Others negative comments and speculations in regaurds to him are no different than your support of him or critisizing of the individuals who don't. We have our opinion and they should be allowed there's as well.

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

I like Dayne. I hope he, and the rest of the players on the DL make great recoveries, and come back next year and straight whoop all our rivals! It'd be nice to have bragging rights over my MI friends. hehehehe

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Good post jonesman. Couldn't agree more.

 

[johnnykillz]

I am also a Crist fan and supporter. Although at times I have been critical of him. However, just as you chose to vocalize your support for him, others have the right to do the same in opposition. Others negative comments and speculations in regaurds to him are no different than your support of him or critisizing of the individuals who don't. We have our opinion and they should be allowed there's as well.

*Hi. I'm here for the sake of arguing. Boo-yah. Whats up?

 

[NDinL.A.]

I am also a Crist fan and supporter. Although at times I have been critical of him. However, just as you chose to vocalize your support for him, others have the right to do the same in opposition. Others negative comments and speculations in regaurds to him are no different than your support of him or critisizing of the individuals who don't. We have our opinion and they should be allowed there's as well.

True...to a point. It's a message board, and opinions are what drives it.

HOWEVER, what irks me to no end (and jonesie too) are the people who make up b.s. or pass on b.s. rumors and then people run with it as fact, like the Crist transferring horse-bleep rumor that came out of nowhere, or the stupid lie about Lynch having a ND tattoo. That's bush-league (or Obama-league if that's how you swing) and immature, and you'd hope people would be better than that.

Another example is about Crist not being on the sidelines and people talking all kinds of crap without even a hint of knowing why. When it comes out that Crist was actually in the booth...there's criquets from the guys who were ripping Crist.

So yes, opinions on both sides make for great discussion, but lies and b.s. rumors and people jumping to conclusions without any facts are poison to discussions...

 

[phork]

Opinions are like a$$ holes, everyone has one and they all stink.

 

[irishfan1122]

Is Dayne a good kid? I'm sure he is, but at the end of the day, shouldn't you be?

This is going to sound terrible, but I really don't care. There is liking a guy for his personal qualities, then liking him for his football abilities. He's not starting next year. It's similar to Tom Brady and Drew Bledsoe. His career is over, it didn't work out, move on.

 

[hrc08]

Yes, Dayne was wildly inconsistent. Heck, he would be great one drive and then clueless the next 5.

However, IMO, he still has more talent in his right arm than any other QB ND has. On that alone, I expect that he will compete hard for the starting job next year.

I mean, he can just flat out make throws that many other can NEVER make.

 

[irish4ever]

Amen..., thank you Jonesy. I agree 100 percent with you. Crist is a great young man and a good quarterback. He definently does not deserve all the trash talk, speculation of transfer crap and the rest of the stuff that has been floating around here lately. I also wish him a speedy and succesful recovery and hope he comes back in the spring and continues to battle.

Yeah, what you said! Ditto all over!!!

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Yes, Dayne was wildly inconsistent. Heck, he would be great one drive and then clueless the next 5.

However, IMO, he still has more talent in his right arm than any other QB ND has. On that alone, I expect that he will compete hard for the starting job next year.

I mean, he can just flat out make throws that many other can NEVER make.

But he can read a defense as well as Stevie Wonder. Maybe it will all click for him...the coverages, checks, and concepts...etc but he, I believe, is missing spring ball...being out for 6 months. He has got a HUGE hill to climb. If Rees gets these next 2 wins, and a bowl win, he's going to be ahead of the pack. I hope to see him mature physically over the off-season, his football IQ is through the roof.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

I am 100% a Dayne Fan. Here is a guy who was a 5 star QB out of High School, came in and was a back-up in a pro style offense for a NFL Caliber QB. And then Blows out his ACL. Comes back faster than expected, with a new coach, new offensive coor. and a whole new offense. And still leads us back for should be wins against MSU and Michigan. He should have been 6-1 in his first year as a starter.

It makes me sick on how critical people are of Dayne in his first year as a starter. And annoint Rees. Rees blew the game against Tulsa. Flat out blew it, and then played great against Utah. And Dayne had his own great games, and still got crap thrown at him.

Some ND fans just can't be happy. We got such a talent like Dayne, who is also a role model, and works really hard and still bash him. It makes me sick. I am happy we have Rees, and I love his demeanor on the field. But, I just really like what Dayne has to offer. While this is Daynes first year in a spread, and Rees 3rd or 4th year in a spread offense--I wonder who is going to pick it up faster.

Thank you for posting this thread, I really appreciate it and had to vent.

Go Irish! The ND Nation is behind you!

 

[tommyIRISH23]

I am 100% a Dayne Fan. Here is a guy who was a 5 star QB out of High School, came in and was a back-up in a pro style offense for a NFL Caliber QB. And then Blows out his ACL. Comes back faster than expected, with a new coach, new offensive coor. and a whole new offense. And still leads us back for should be wins against MSU and Michigan. He should have been 6-1 in his first year as a starter.

It makes me sick on how critical people are of Dayne in his first year as a starter. And annoint Rees. Rees blew the game against Tulsa. Flat out blew it, and then played great against Utah. And Dayne had his own great games, and still got crap thrown at him.

Some ND fans just can't be happy. We got such a talent like Dayne, who is also a role model, and works really hard and still bash him. It makes me sick. I am happy we have Rees, and I love his demeanor on the field. But, I just really like what Dayne has to offer. While this is Daynes first year in a spread, and Rees 3rd or 4th year in a spread offense--I wonder who is going to pick it up faster.

Thank you for posting this thread, I really appreciate it and had to vent.

Go Irish! The ND Nation is behind you!

1. Noone is saying Dayne is not talented, he definitely is, but I think CW getting canned will hurt him because he is a pro style QB.

2. With 2 banged up knees, how is he going to run the spread offense? He is not going to be able to run the ball.

3. Yes, Tommy Rees, and Hendrix are going to be WAY ahead of Dayne when it comes to running the spread. Rees will have 3-5 years running it, and Hendrix, who has been praised by the coaching staff for his gifts physically, will have a lot of practice. Dayne was tentative last spring because he was recovering, and will miss this spring because he is recovering again. He is going to miss SO much valuable learning time.

4. It doesn't matter how many stars he received, he spent 2 years learning one offense, and then has to learn a whole new one while his ACL is torn, comes back and hurts the other knee requiring surgery leaving him out for 6 months. BK will put in the QB that understands the offense best, not the QB whom is the most physically gifted, but does not know what is going on.

5. Then, we have the NC verbal that might be coming to South Bend. If he enrolls early? Another person whom is more athletic then Dayne, and has continual reps with the offense.

It is not that Dayne does not have enough talent, it's the new system, injuries, other QB's picking it up faster..etc Dayne looked very confused on the field, and was not comforable.

I am sure Dayne is a great kid, and if not for the injury, I think he'd pick the offense up and be pretty good. But the injury put the breaks on his career when he needed to hit the gas the most. Rees, and Hendrix will be much further along by the time Dayne comes back.

 

[CanadianIrish]

Criticizing Dayne for his play is one thing, but there is no doubt based on his charitable work and every report we've seen about his involvement with the team that he's a great kid. I'm not a fan of his play, but I am a fan of him.

There's a big difference there, and his supporters and those that don't like his play need to realize that. There is zero reason to criticize him as a person, and that would continue even if he were to transfer.

 

[Rocket89]

I feel bad that Crist and Allen aren't travelling to NYC at least.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

I'm sorry, really criticizing a player as much as he has been criticized this year is just not cool. He put us in position to be 6-1/5-2 when he went out (Stanford was a drubbing and Navy). For a 1st year starter, sorry that is great in my mind. And his accuracy??? In his first year, and the weight of the ND Nation on his shoulders. Sorry, I beg to differ. If the Defense help up their end of the bargain this would be a mute point.

And if he loses the starting position, I hope he loses it on their being a better QB on the roster. And I don't think it is Rees. I actually think the job is between Dayne and Andrew.

 

[CanadianIrish]

I'm sorry, really criticizing a player as much as he has been criticized this year is just not cool. He put us in position to be 6-1/5-2 when he went out (Stanford was a drubbing and Navy). For a 1st year starter, sorry that is great in my mind. And his accuracy??? In his first year, and the weight of the ND Nation on his shoulders. Sorry, I beg to differ. If the Defense help up their end of the bargain this would be a mute point.

And if he loses the starting position, I hope he loses it on their being a better QB on the roster. And I don't think it is Rees. I actually think the job is between Dayne and Andrew.

That's a perfectly valid opinion, but it's not gospel. Others can disagree and it doesn't make them wrong.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

good point, but Dayne sure got the most criticism here. I know QB's do, but for a 1st year starter I haven't seen a guy get so picked over. It wasn't that Riddick was new to the position, or our TE was running on one leg, or our Oline was OK, or our backs weren't great, etc. It was Dayne is innaccurate. Dayne isn't fast enough, Dayne this and Dayne that. Not that he brought us back, or helped bring us back. Just too much negativity towards him for a 1st year starter IMO. I know its not gospel, but I thought for a first year starter for a guy who has been a pro style guy his entire high school and college career he was shown little room for error by many, many posters here.

 

[lookingdeadred]

Outstanding

Outstanding

well said

I have seen the rumors of Dayne Crist transferring, not attending the last home game and other ridiculous comments. I will admit that I have been a bit dissapointed with Dayne's performance on the field, but I am still a big fan of the PLAYER and PERSON.

I still remember him showing up for a spring game prior to help recruit for his class several years ago. He stood behind JC for 3 years. He has done absolutely NOTHING to deserve the treatment he has received over the last few weeks on here and other ND sites. The guy has been a class act.

I wish him well and hope he comes back healthy. I am sure he will be given the chance to compete just like every other QB on our roster.

So, for those who were bashing his attendance to the game last week. Here is your answer: Crist is immobilized after having surgery on his ruptured patella tendon, so he can’t get around practice much. Crist sat in the booth for last Saturday’s win over Utah, but was not cleared to travel this weekend. Senor running back Armando Allen, who is also out for the season after having hip surgery, won’t be traveling either.

As for his commitment: The guy Rees is replacing, Dayne Crist, still attends all of the team’s meetings.

“Dayne’s still learning and absorbing a lot,” Kelly said. “He’s staying engaged. I don’t know that there’s a lot of information that is flowing from Dayne to Tommy…He’s at meetings, he’s still asking questions because he’s still in the learning process himself.”

 

[irishtrinity]

october 9th was my birthday drove to notre dame for pitt game went to the campus as soon as i got to south bend at 6 am 7am and who was walking down the street dayne i stopped and talked to him such an honor great guy wished him happy birthday and he did the same.. that was the way to start my first notre dame trip.. just thought i'd share..

i think he's a great qb should not have run the ball a few extra yds during tulsa game or he'd still be playing look at the play helmet to helmet also... wish him the best

 

[IrishandColts]

Still wont start next year

 

[JDAtlanta]

I am a big Dayne supporter.

I am a big Dayne supporter.

I can't see a player going through the knee surgeries and immediately attending meeting, then transfer. As for his inabilities to take the contact at this level. BOTH, injuries were on NON-CONTACT plays.

Go Irish....Win out!

 

[RyCo1983]

I didn't trash Dayne...but ya know
as nice of a guy as he seems to be...
Rees seems to run the offense better.
I'm less worried with Tommy taking the snaps.

Hendrix beats them both out next year.

 

[IrishinSyria]

He's not starting next year. It's similar to Tom Brady and Drew Bledsoe. His career is over, it didn't work out, move on.

And Tommy Rees is our Tom Brady? I don't think so. The offense ran 49 plays against Utah and Rees threw the ball 20 times. That is not a Brian Kelly offense. Kelly tried to let Rees run a Kelly attack against Tulsa, and it didn't work out. Rees played great last week, but he definitely has not won the starting job for next year

And if you're saying Hendrix is our starter next year, I ask where you bought your crystal ball. Nobody has seen the kid take one college level snap. Bottom line, don't coun't Dayne out yet. He had thrown for 16 Tds with 7 picks when his season ended, those are not bad numbers for a first year starter.

 

[RyCo1983]

And Tommy Rees is our Tom Brady? I don't think so. The offense ran 49 plays against Utah and Rees threw the ball 20 times. That is not a Brian Kelly offense. Kelly tried to let Rees run a Kelly attack against Tulsa, and it didn't work out. Rees played great last week, but he definitely has not won the starting job for next year

And if you're saying Hendrix is our starter next year, I ask where you bought your crystal ball. Nobody has seen the kid take one college level snap. Bottom line, don't coun't Dayne out yet. He had thrown for 16 Tds with 7 picks when his season ended, those are not bad numbers for a first year starter.

Yeah it's nice to see Kelly FINALLY realizing he can't run HIS offense with no changes based on the athletes available to him.

I said Hendrix would start next year really just on intuition.
The coaches LOVE him from what I've heard, especially Kelly.
Seems to be the guy waiting in the wings...
The best looking guy in the fall obviously will get the starting nod. I just think it'll be Hendrix over Crist and Rees.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Yeah it's nice to see Kelly FINALLY realizing he can't run HIS offense with no changes based on the athletes available to him..

Kelly's brilliance has been to adapt the scheme based on which QB was available to him. Look up his run at Cincy.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Bottom line, don't coun't Dayne out yet. He had thrown for 16 Tds with 7 picks when his season ended, those are not bad numbers for a first year starter.

See, this is what I hate about your posts. You quote things like facts.

Since when do facts have any place in a blog?

Just shut it.