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Why does having sex with someone mean that it's the deal breaker? Do you feel the need to view each woman as a sexual being? If you don't find a woman attractive that makes them not a woman? I'm sure I could go through some wives/gf here and I wouldn't think they're all knockouts.

Me not finding someone with the same parts downstairs as me as someone I want to sleep with is not something that invalidates them. If a woman doesn't find me attractive then I don't become not a male. If you want to identify as whatever you want go nuts it's not a big deal. Pretty simple approach to take to these things.

At the end of the day....why does this matter? Lol like I thought the Left was supposed to be the snowflakes mad at emotional things....yet here we are. Worst case scenario of all this is....no impact on your life?

(It's transphobic not homophobic btw, homphobic would be like gay agenda etc.)

I am simply saying this: In my definition of a women. I am capable of being attracted to all types of women… not every single one in those types will spike my dopamine. When we were talking about preference and “standards” I assumed that meant we were talking about attraction to… not someone I would drink a coffee with. I guess we need to define more terms than just gender in order to have a coherent conversation.

Who is mad? Truth matters, correct? Reality matters, correct? You want to live in a society grounded in truth? Science matters only if science isn’t whatever-phobic or sexist or racist? 5+5 doesn’t equal jello because someone feels like it should…

Is it transphobic? You’re assuming all penis people walking around pretending to be women “identify” as trans? Man you really need to be more queer aware and get your LGBTQs and ABCs down.
 

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Topless play by play… what game and what channel….??
Not gonna lie...I'd watch the occasional LFL game when they were still a thing.
Still too many clothes.

[EDIT] Apparently the LFL is still a thing, they've just rebranded as the X League since the pandemic. Inaugural season just opened 2 days ago. :laugh:
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I've got no problem with a woman in the booth. I'm progressive like that. Like Clay Travis I believe in two things: 1st Amendment...and boobs.
It doesn’t bother me if they’re the play by play, but I prefer my color guy to be someone who’s played the sport.
 

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It doesn’t bother me if they’re the play by play, but I prefer my color guy to be someone who’s played the sport.
Honestly,… if they are knowledgeable enough I really don’t care. Heck a few of these former players have me rolling my eyes sometimes,…
 

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So women in the booth, women allowed to vote… the question remains. What exactly is a woman?
I witnessed a protest about roe/wade a few weeks ago,… there was a clear trans female yelling ‘my body, my choice’ etc,… someone stepped up and confronted him with basic questions like, “you clearly don’t have a uterus, so why are you saying that” it literally broke people around them, crying, talking about the insensitivity of it all… it’s all about protecting women except when,… idk how we ever get back to a state of commonality when one side insists on these pretzeled logic games.
 

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There's no logic to it. It's all about emotions and how you feel about it. When you remove facts and reason from the equation, nobody can prove you're wrong about anything. All that counts then is who can scream and cry the loudest.
 

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I wouldn’t be surprised to see trans men acting as spokespeople for testicular cancer awareness…….
 

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I am simply saying this: In my definition of a women. I am capable of being attracted to all types of women… not every single one in those types will spike my dopamine. When we were talking about preference and “standards” I assumed that meant we were talking about attraction to… not someone I would drink a coffee with. I guess we need to define more terms than just gender in order to have a coherent conversation.

Who is mad? Truth matters, correct? Reality matters, correct? You want to live in a society grounded in truth? Science matters only if science isn’t whatever-phobic or sexist or racist? 5+5 doesn’t equal jello because someone feels like it should…

Is it transphobic? You’re assuming all penis people walking around pretending to be women “identify” as trans? Man you really need to be more queer aware and get your LGBTQs and ABCs down.
Truth and reality do matter and there are some studies out that suggest that a transgender persons brain is different in structure than others (Is There Something Unique about the Transgender Brain?). Which is a science based argument that being transgender is not a "choice". Also, conceptually a person does not want to be trans as that would be subjecting yourself to being in a group that doesn't necessarily have a universal approval.

It is what is. As an analytical person I've learned that there are some things that it's ok to allow people to believe in even if I don't understand the entire concept. Religion was the first, and that would be an interesting discussion to be had by the science inclined folk.
 

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Truth and reality do matter and there are some studies out that suggest that a transgender persons brain is different in structure than others (Is There Something Uniquett about the Transgender Brain?). Which is a science based argument that being transgender is not a "choice". Also, conceptually a person does not want to be trans as that would be subjecting yourself to being in a group that doesn't necessarily have a universal approval.

It is what is. As an analytical person I've learned that there are some things that it's ok to allow people to believe in even if I don't understand the entire concept. Religion was the first, and that would be an interesting discussion to be had by the science inclined folk.

Sex is determined by your brain not your genitals or chromosomes? Interesting take.

White people have different brains than black people… is that why they are better athletes?
 

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Sex is determined by your brain not your genitals or chromosomes? Interesting take.

White people have different brains than black people… is that why they are better athletes?
Sex and gender aren't the same? Not sure where I made the comment about genitals/chromosomes in my post.

What do white and black people's athleticism have to do with....anything?
 

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Sex and gender aren't the same? Not sure where I made the comment about genitals/chromosomes in my post.

What do white and black people's athleticism have to do with....anything?

Exactly. The problem is you did not make any comment about genitals or chromosomes. You are assigned a gender at birth. Doctors use the science of looking at your genitals to determine this. Your chromosomes 99.999999% back up the doctors observations and findings.

For example if you have a penis, the doctor uses a scientific term called “observation” to observe if the person is a male/female and concludes that person is a boy or girl based on the sex findings. I get it, you aren’t a doctor. But I googled it and that’s typically how it goes down.

As that person walks through life those chromosomes start to shape how that person grows up. There are things called puberty and little girls go through this thing called a cycle I still don’t fully understand….

There are observational differences and some we can’t necessarily see but scientists and doctors tell us they exist… soo… I guess we will take their word for it since it’s been peer reviewed and all that.

Ancient scholars and decisions makers noticed this difference as well. One decision made was splitting mens and womens sports. These reasons, while scientific, has said to been observed by your common non scientist person using a method called common sense.

I brought up white brains and black brains and compared it to athletics because it has as much merit as your gendering someone by their brain and not even mentioning their penis or vagina. You can argue basically anything is anything if just randomly make dots connect because you just simply want them to.

Also it’s probably not coincidental it seems you have an ax to grind to religion. One of the topics mentioned in the Matt Walsh doc was THE pioneer for all the word and alphabet salad of gender was someone with a similar ax to grind.
 

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Exactly. The problem is you did not make any comment about genitals or chromosomes. You are assigned a gender at birth. Doctors use the science of looking at your genitals to determine this. Your chromosomes 99.999999% back up the doctors observations and findings.

For example if you have a penis, the doctor uses a scientific term called “observation” to observe if the person is a male/female and concludes that person is a boy or girl based on the sex findings. I get it, you aren’t a doctor. But I googled it and that’s typically how it goes down.

As that person walks through life those chromosomes start to shape how that person grows up. There are things called puberty and little girls go through this thing called a cycle I still don’t fully understand….

There are observational differences and some we can’t necessarily see but scientists and doctors tell us they exist… soo… I guess we will take their word for it since it’s been peer reviewed and all that.

Ancient scholars and decisions makers noticed this difference as well. One decision made was splitting mens and womens sports. These reasons, while scientific, has said to been observed by your common non scientist person using a method called common sense.

I brought up white brains and black brains and compared it to athletics because it has as much merit as your gendering someone by their brain and not even mentioning their penis or vagina. You can argue basically anything is anything if just randomly make dots connect because you just simply want them to.

Also it’s probably not coincidental it seems you have an ax to grind to religion. One of the topics mentioned in the Matt Walsh doc was THE pioneer for all the word and alphabet salad of gender was someone with a similar ax to grind.
I did not make a comment on that because it relates to sex? Transgender is, "trans" + "gender" which is for someone who identifies themselves based on gender not sex. The straight-to-Dailywire video in discussion is a discussion on gender, right? Being a man or woman is a gender classification and male/female is sex based. So your little parable on genitalia relates to sex, not gender.

Again, Gender is not a biological classification like male/female. I made the point of the brain size as it was something scientists mentioned in relation to people identifying as transgender have differently sized brains in the studies they conducted.

I used religion as an example of something that is more belief based and less grounded in scientific fact, so someone arguing that gender should be based solely in anatomy surely would have a bone to pick with religion? You can probably use that method called common sense and reconcile that someone who cheers for a catholic football team probably has a favorable opinion on catholicism lmao.
 

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Sex is determined by your brain not your genitals or chromosomes? Interesting take.
Yeah, we can totally find a middle ground on the size and scope of government. When we can’t even agree on basics like the sky being blue,…
 

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It doesn’t matter what hormone therapy or surgery you have, you can’t change your chromosomes. Kind of like wearing Halloween costume. The real you is underneath the costume.
 

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I did not make a comment on that because it relates to sex? Transgender is, "trans" + "gender" which is for someone who identifies themselves based on gender not sex. The straight-to-Dailywire video in discussion is a discussion on gender, right? Being a man or woman is a gender classification and male/female is sex based. So your little parable on genitalia relates to sex, not gender.

Again, Gender is not a biological classification like male/female. I made the point of the brain size as it was something scientists mentioned in relation to people identifying as transgender have differently sized brains in the studies they conducted.

I used religion as an example of something that is more belief based and less grounded in scientific fact, so someone arguing that gender should be based solely in anatomy surely would have a bone to pick with religion? You can probably use that method called common sense and reconcile that someone who cheers for a catholic football team probably has a favorable opinion on catholicism lmao.

Gender has always been a classification rooted in biology. When a pregnant woman goes to get an ultrasound they typically say “it’s a boy” or it’s a girl”. Do you think this is a classification rooted in the law of eenie meenie miney mo? When the baby is delivered do the nurses play rock/paper/scissor to gender the baby? No, it’s a classification rooted in biology. You ever been to a gender reveal party? Maybe that’s how gender is determined?

What if I told you I wasn’t human. Homo Sapien is my biological classification but being called a human or a person isn’t the biological term… therefore I can be anything I want. And since I don’t subscribe to being a person I am exempt from any laws, taxes, or really any responsibilities people have. How do you know you are a person… without using science or biology?
 

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Gender has always been a classification rooted in biology. When a pregnant woman goes to get an ultrasound they typically say “it’s a boy” or it’s a girl”. Do you think this is a classification rooted in the law of eenie meenie miney mo? When the baby is delivered do the nurses play rock/paper/scissor to gender the baby? No, it’s a classification rooted in biology. You ever been to a gender reveal party? Maybe that’s how gender is determined?

What if I told you I wasn’t human. Homo Sapien is my biological classification but being called a human or a person isn’t the biological term… therefore I can be anything I want. And since I don’t subscribe to being a person I am exempt from any laws, taxes, or really any responsibilities people have. How do you know you are a person… without using science or biology?

The "assigned gender" is what your social expectation is at birth, so at gender reveals a baby is going to be it's assigned gender or at an ultrasound.

Per WHO Gender and health
Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies from society to society and can change over time.

I see this has dissolved, best of luck on your search for truth. With an open mind like yours you'll be able to gather an incredible amount of perspective.
 

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The "assigned gender" is what your social expectation is at birth, so at gender reveals a baby is going to be it's assigned gender or at an ultrasound.

Per WHO Gender and health


I see this has dissolved, best of luck on your search for truth. With an open mind like yours you'll be able to gather an incredible amount of perspective.
I’ll ask this. Do you identify as human or are you a human? This will shed light on what our differences are. The word “person” or “human” is just as much of a social construct as man/woman.

Even with the WHO’s definition of gender, the question still stands… what the fuck is a woman?
 
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The WHO was much better when they were a band.

Given the WHO's reputation and performance I'm not sure they're a good source to get info from. They seem to let outside pressures influence them more than science.
 

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So I have no idea who Lizzo even is but a friend pointed out this current controversy over this song lyric change. I honestly rolled my eyes and didn't really believe it then I got to my office and saw a headline in my news feed. The song in question drops f bombs, uses bitch, talks about beating people randomly and cutting of a man's penis.... all of that is fine, but the lyric where she calls herself a 'spaz' required changing the lyrics as it was too problematic and Lizzo even put out a statement saying she would never promote derogatory or harmful language (lol) so she's removing the sword spaz from the song......... of course the article in my news feed makes this out as courageous and brave and cares not for any other lyrics or imagery

yeah guys, if you can't honestly see the problems with this culture then may God be with you.
 
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So I have no idea who Lizzo even is but a friend pointed out this current controversy over this song lyric change. I honestly rolled my eyes and didn't really believe it then I got to my office and saw a headline in my news feed. The song in question drops f bombs, uses bitch, talks about beating people randomly and cutting of a man's penis.... all of that is fine, but the lyric where she calls herself a 'spaz' required changing the lyrics as it was too problematic and Lizzo even put out a statement saying she would never promote derogatory or harmful language (lol) so she's removing the sword spaz from the song......... of course the article in my news feed makes this out as courageous and brave and cares not for any other lyrics or imagery

yeah guys, if you can't honestly see the problems with this culture then may God be with you.
Ehh just leave her be. She’ll be dead of heart failure in 18 months tops anyways. Fat whale.
 

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First I heard about this. I can't believe this was allowed to even make it into the court system, let alone wasn't a unanimous decision.

Well it all goes back to biology and self identification. The word "person" is seen as a social construct. The biological name for an elephant is "Loxodonta"... Elephant is what society decided to call them. This happens when truth and reality is tainted. Social constructs are designed to create some sort of order... but the walls of reality and order are being torn down in the name of dudes with dicks wanting to wear dresses say they are a woman. No order = chaos... where elephants go to court to be called a person....
 
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