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irishff1014 said:


Let him out of jail. Someone will put a shot gun to his face like he deserves.
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Disgraceful situation, but there are much bigger issues than funding defense attorneys.

1) Society was protected from people like this until Reagan/conservatives shut down all the asylums.
2) The woke/mainstream media almost always refuses to report on any Black-on-White violence/injustice, no matter how awful or sensational--this horrific act included.
 
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Black on white and white on black crime stats are nearly identical for violent crimes.
 
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Point 1 was interesting. Quick search:

Sanatoriums and asylums for the mentally ill didn't have a single end date but were phased out through a process called deinstitutionalization, which began in the 1950s and continued through the late 20th century, culminating in the 1980s and beyond. This shift, driven by the Community Mental Health Act of 1963, the Medicaid Act of 1965, and other legislation, aimed to move patients from large, isolated institutions to community-based treatment and support systems. The process became virtually impossible to reverse with the 1967 Lanterman-Petris-Short Act in California and subsequent federal court rulings like the 1999 Olmstead decision, which made segregation in institutions illegal when community treatment was feasible.
 
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Fbolt said:
Point 1 was interesting. Quick search:

Sanatoriums and asylums for the mentally ill didn't have a single end date but were phased out through a process called deinstitutionalization, which began in the 1950s and continued through the late 20th century, culminating in the 1980s and beyond. This shift, driven by the Community Mental Health Act of 1963, the Medicaid Act of 1965, and other legislation, aimed to move patients from large, isolated institutions to community-based treatment and support systems. The process became virtually impossible to reverse with the 1967 Lanterman-Petris-Short Act in California and subsequent federal court rulings like the 1999 Olmstead decision, which made segregation in institutions illegal when community treatment was feasible.
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Completely off topic, but the deinstitutionalization thing reminded me of something funny. In the 60's & 70's, there was a large group home for the mentally handicapped near my hometown. Some of the men at the church I attended as a child would bring three or four of the guys from the home to church on Sundays just to get them out of the home and let them interact with the community. They were generally pretty well behaved, but could sometimes be entertaining with inappropriate behavior.

One Sunday morning an usher stopped at the end of the pew in front of the one where these guys were sitting. I was two pews behind them and saw the whole thing like it was in slow motion. The guy on the end reached out and jammed his finger into the elderly usher's butt crack and giggled. To a 13-year-old boy, this was comedy gold... one of the funniest things I'd ever seen. My best friend was sitting next to me and we were both snickering and trying not to just fall out laughing.,
 
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ColoradoIrish said:
It's not a 1 to 1 ratio but it's also not an extreme. The vast majority of violent crime is white on white, black on black, brown on brown etc.

I'm sure there's more recent studies, but this was the first one I could find from a legit source.


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That is true, but the statement was about what the media does and doesn't report on within two races (B on W and W on B). The media typically doesn't report on W on W or B on B.
 
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Irish#1 said:
That is true, but the statement was about what the media does and doesn't report on within two races (B on W and W on B). The media typically doesn't report on W on W or B on B.
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I didn't see the part about what the media was reporting. I was only commenting on the statistics side of it.
 
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Wild Bill said:
You’re confusing percentages with totals.
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And you didn't account for the total number of violent crimes. White people had 2.2 million victims while black people had just under 500000, take those numbers and extrapolate the data. Obviously white people will higher numbers because they reported more violent crime by over 4x
 
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Wild Bill said:
So black on white incidents outnumber white on black by more than 5 to 1. Adjust that for population size of the two groups and digest.
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The population of the incidents is - 3,284,860
The share of incidents per each is - 67.4% White, 15.2% Black, and 17.4% Hispanic.
2020 census breakdown of demographics is - 61.6% White, 12.4% Black, and 18.9% Hispanic.
Offender share for white - 69.2% White, 16.6% Black, and 11.1% Hispanic.
Offender share for black - 14.1% White, 65.7% Black, and 11.8% Hispanic.

There's 7.1% of the population not represented in the victim split that's shown in the demographic stats which skews the share of incidents.

So, after digesting on that, can you explain your concern if the white victims face the most intraethnic violence?
 
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TorontoGold said:
The population of the incidents is - 3,284,860
The share of incidents per each is - 67.4% White, 15.2% Black, and 17.4% Hispanic.
2020 census breakdown of demographics is - 61.6% White, 12.4% Black, and 18.9% Hispanic.
Offender share for white - 69.2% White, 16.6% Black, and 11.1% Hispanic.
Offender share for black - 14.1% White, 65.7% Black, and 11.8% Hispanic.

There's 7.1% of the population not represented in the victim split that's shown in the demographic stats which skews the share of incidents.

So, after digesting on that, can you explain your concern if the white victims face the most intraethnic violence?
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Yes, the majority of crimes against Whites are committed by other Whites - intraracial violence is highest for every group. That doesn’t erase what the numbers actually say about interracial violence, and pointing it out now is nothing more than a distraction from your original post:

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Seems like whites have the least violence done to them by other races.
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The data you cited shows the exact opposite.
 
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Wild Bill said:
Yes, the majority of crimes against Whites are committed by other Whites - intraracial violence is highest for every group. That doesn’t erase what the numbers actually say about interracial violence, and pointing it out now is nothing more than a distraction from your original post:


The data you cited shows the exact opposite.
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No it doesn't. It definitely proves his point. 30.2% of violent crime committed against white people was by non whites, 34.3% of violent crime committed against black people was committed by non blacks, and 58.7% of violent crime committed against Hispanics we're from non Hispanics. In what universe does that prove the opposite of what Toronto stated?
 
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Wild Bill said:
Yes, the majority of crimes against Whites are committed by other Whites - intraracial violence is highest for every group. That doesn’t erase what the numbers actually say about interracial violence, and pointing it out now is nothing more than a distraction from your original post:


The data you cited shows the exact opposite.
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Interracial violence is a 2.5% delta, is this what you're saying is the issue? We're also not controlling for income levels either.

The data I showed that violent offenders against white people is higher than all other races compared with their intraracial groups?

What are doing here lol. Surely we're not saying "big number higher" without actually looking at the rate stats, right?
 
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TorontoGold said:
Interracial violence is a 2.5% delta, is this what you're saying is the issue? We're also not controlling for income levels either.

The data I showed that violent offenders against white people is higher than all other races compared with their intraracial groups?

What are doing here lol. Surely we're not saying "big number higher" without actually looking at the rate stats, right?
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What neighborhood do you feel safer walking at night?
 
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TorontoGold said:
Probably a poor black neighbourhood because there’s a less likely chance of me getting attacked than in a poor white area.

What do the stats say?
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City after city the stats say the opposite as do my life experiences as a white male.


Quote: "Black men commit a huge amount of violent crime in the United States. Every statistic confirms this fact.... Put another way, black men, who make up about one-fourteenth of the American population, commit over half of the homicides."


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