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Thoughts on Johnson and Johnson vaccine? I've been 100% in person teaching since day 1 back in September, and they are finally offering us a vaccine, but it's J&J. Wait for Pfizer, or make the jump with what appears to be the least effective one?

I'm no doc but "least effective" is still like 90% effective vs serious illness/hospitalization.

Also, 1 shot > 2 shots.

I, personally, would say it's worth it.
 

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Thoughts on Johnson and Johnson vaccine? I've been 100% in person teaching since day 1 back in September, and they are finally offering us a vaccine, but it's J&J. Wait for Pfizer, or make the jump with what appears to be the least effective one?

JnJ is definitely the move. 1 shot, less side effects, full effectiveness against severe illness and pretty effective against all illness.
 

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Thoughts on Johnson and Johnson vaccine? I've been 100% in person teaching since day 1 back in September, and they are finally offering us a vaccine, but it's J&J. Wait for Pfizer, or make the jump with what appears to be the least effective one?

If your goal is to avoid dying or getting seriously ill, JnJ is going to get you to that goal a month sooner than following another vaccine path. With that being said, Pfizer has better overall effectiveness if you're willing to do the two shot regimen.
 

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If your goal is to avoid dying or getting seriously ill, JnJ is going to get you to that goal a month sooner than following another vaccine path. With that being said, Pfizer has better overall effectiveness if you're willing to do the two shot regimen.

I have no problem with the 2 shot regimen....Will probably just have to wait another two months to get the Pfizer, as PA sucks with distribution. (They put teachers in a "special group" for J&J vaccine.) Flip a coin I guess.
 

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I will choose the J&J vaccine. I’m uncomfortable taking an mRNA vaccine plus it seems like the J&J may do better against variants. Yes I know the J&J vaccine may be the least effective against preventing COVID, but it is still very effective and 90% effective in preventing serious cases. The one shot regimen is an added bonus, but has zero impact on my choice.
 

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I will choose the J&J vaccine. I’m uncomfortable taking an mRNA vaccine plus it seems like the J&J may do better against variants. Yes I know the J&J vaccine may be the least effective against preventing COVID, but it is still very effective and 90% effective in preventing serious cases. The one shot regimen is an added bonus, but has zero impact on my choice.

Jokes on you, when I get turned into a zombie I'm coming after your brain first.
 

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I have no problem with the 2 shot regimen....Will probably just have to wait another two months to get the Pfizer, as PA sucks with distribution. (They put teachers in a "special group" for J&J vaccine.) Flip a coin I guess.

If I was in your shoes, and one vaccine is going to take 2+ months longer to get, I'm taking the one I can get my hands on first.
 

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If I was in your shoes, and one vaccine is going to take 2+ months longer to get, I'm taking the one I can get my hands on first.

Most likely what I am going to do. Been playing with fire all school year..currently have 3 families in my homeroom that have it.
 

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I have no problem with the 2 shot regimen....Will probably just have to wait another two months to get the Pfizer, as PA sucks with distribution. (They put teachers in a "special group" for J&J vaccine.) Flip a coin I guess.

As a fellow teacher in PA, I was able to get my first dose of Moderna 2 weeks ago through Rite Aid. If you go on their Covid schedule site, they update it at midnight every so many days. I was able to schedule mine in the beginning of February. Might not work for you now, as you may be able to quickly get the J&J, but definitely look into those options as well.
 

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I don't know if it's been discussed and I missed it, but do the developers know if this is along the lines of a one and done or will it be annual like the flu shot with variations?
 

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I don't know if it's been discussed and I missed it, but do the developers know if this is along the lines of a one and done or will it be annual like the flu shot with variations?

COVID mutates significantly slower than the flu so we maybe could eradicate at some point, but doubt it is within the next couple years. My $0.02, which probably is really only worth $0.01, is that we will likely be dealing with COVID in some capacity for the next few years until the globe is vaccinated. Probably have to get a couple more shots the next few years, hence the US starting to stockpile. No one really knows how long the shots last for at the moment, but early returns are promising. Merck drug similar to Tamiflu coming this summer should also lower risk from the virus even more.

Historically speaking, there was a coronavirus pandemic in 1889-1890 that was near identical to what is going on today... We still get that coronavirus every year, OC43, which mutated to a common cold. Could the vaccines simply get us over the immunity hump of severe infection to something manageable yearly?
 

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As a fellow teacher in PA, I was able to get my first dose of Moderna 2 weeks ago through Rite Aid. If you go on their Covid schedule site, they update it at midnight every so many days. I was able to schedule mine in the beginning of February. Might not work for you now, as you may be able to quickly get the J&J, but definitely look into those options as well.

They are still only in the 1A phase though, so I don't qualify....Now I could say I was a smoker and get it, but I'll take the high road for now.
 

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I got my second shot of Pfizer on Monday. Felt like absolute dog shit on Tuesday but fine today.

The United States continues to crush the rest of the first world in vaccinations and we should be “done” with this by the summer.
 

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Didn't watch. I figured whatever he was going to say, we already know.

1. More people than ever getting vaccinated.
2. Infection rates are continuing to decline.
3. By June or July everyone will have had an opportunity to get vaccinated.
4. Keep wearing a mask.
5. Together we'll beat this.
 
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I got my second shot of Pfizer on Monday. Felt like absolute dog shit on Tuesday but fine today.

The United States continues to crush the rest of the first world in vaccinations and we should be “done” with this by the summer.

Glad you bounced back quickly. We get ours Wednesday. I'm guessing since I briefly had the chills from the first one, I'll feel like crap from the second one.
 

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What a pathetic, strange speech from Biden

Which part was "pathetic" or "strange"? The part where he said everyone will be eligible for vaccines by the start of May? Or the part where he laid out concrete steps to have everything fully open by the summer?
 

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Which part was "pathetic" or "strange"? The part where he said everyone will be eligible for vaccines by the start of May? Or the part where he laid out concrete steps to have everything fully open by the summer?

Or the part he asked all Americans to help the country in achieving these goals?
 

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SOCIALISM BLUR LBARGH BLAH MAGA!!!!!!!

When I saw that, the first thing I thought of was “ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country”. I know that probably isn’t what Biden meant in this scenario, but that’s probably what needs to be said more often. We seem to have that backwards in society today fairly often when it comes to government expectations on a federal level. JFK was way ahead of his time.
 

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What a pathetic, strange speech from Biden

I honestly don’t know what else to expect other than the standard, boiler plate presidential speech from Biden. He’s not exactly a charismatic speaker in his current state. Add in the internet media, and speeches like this are pretty much obsolete today anyways, as we already know all the key points.
 

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When I saw that, the first thing I thought of was “ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country”. I know that probably isn’t what Biden meant in this scenario, but that’s probably what needs to be said more often. We seem to have that backwards in society today fairly often when it comes to government expectations on a federal level. JFK was way ahead of his time.

Well, you're right. It's actually the opposite of socialism; calling on your fellow American to do the right thing, not forcing them. Being good citizens, proud of their country, and fighting for what's right, and opening our country back up. Couldn't be more 'Murican than that.
 

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When I saw that, the first thing I thought of was “ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country”. I know that probably isn’t what Biden meant in this scenario, but that’s probably what needs to be said more often. We seem to have that backwards in society today fairly often when it comes to government expectations on a federal level. JFK was way ahead of his time.

I'd honestly have loved a cohesive united response to this pandemic but instead it became The US Gov pitting state against state for supplies and response and individuals fighting over needs/jobs when we could have been united and worked together. The differences in response between Biden and Trump could not be more apparent. I have even heard people in my day to day orbit saying what Biden is doing is socialism. He is overstepping his authority and using ht epower of the Federal Gubment by homogenizing a response and getting the vaccine to us by May. LMAO. ITs insane
 

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Which part was "pathetic" or "strange"? The part where he said everyone will be eligible for vaccines by the start of May? Or the part where he laid out concrete steps to have everything fully open by the summer?

I missed the first half so maybe that part was much better, but his whole phony unity thing is getting tiresome. Him saying maybe if things go well, we can have small get togethers July 4th. But only if you get vaccinated. And if you exercise your freedom in the mean time, god forbid, we will take those rights away again if we have to.

If you were on the fence about getting the vaccine, now you're definitely not going to. Additionally, it's another example of setting terribly simple goals to the point of absurdity. The demand for these vaccines is going to dry up soon and everyone would be eligible by mid-April anyway. I feel like he squandered a serious opportunity to motivate people to get it when they can.

As someone who did not vote for Trump, and did not vote for Biden but in hindsight would have, we should hold our politicians to a higher standard than what would be happening anyway if you put fricken Koon in charge of the country.
 

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I'd honestly have loved a cohesive united response to this pandemic but instead it became The US Gov pitting state against state for supplies and response and individuals fighting over needs/jobs when we could have been united and worked together. The differences in response between Biden and Trump could not be more apparent. I have even heard people in my day to day orbit saying what Biden is doing is socialism. He is overstepping his authority and using ht epower of the Federal Gubment by homogenizing a response and getting the vaccine to us by May. LMAO. ITs insane

Do... do they not know how we eradicated smallpox, or how polio is almost entirely gone?
 

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I missed the first half so maybe that part was much better, but his whole phony unity thing is getting tiresome. Him saying maybe if things go well, we can have small get togethers July 4th. But only if you get vaccinated. And if you exercise your freedom in the mean time, god forbid, we will take those rights away again if we have to.

If you were on the fence about getting the vaccine, now you're definitely not going to. Additionally, it's another example of setting terribly simple goals to the point of absurdity. The demand for these vaccines is going to dry up soon and everyone would be eligible by mid-April anyway. I feel like he squandered a serious opportunity to motivate people to get it when they can.

As someone who did not vote for Trump, and did not vote for Biden but in hindsight would have, we should hold our politicians to a higher standard than what would be happening anyway if you put fricken Koon in charge of the country.

Solid post, respect your opinion.
 
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