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I heard that El Paso reported 1200 cases yesterday, that's a ton for a city that size. Stay safe ACamp!

The EP/Juarez area isn't really small though population wise. 3+M which would be top 20 in the US. Not sure how the travel back and forth has been impacted by Covid though.

Acamp, no more Browns superspreader watch parties please.
 

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I did not see much talk about the FDA's highly controversial approval yesterday of remdesivir as the first drug to treat covid. Not only did the FDA not require the normal rigors for approval they granted Gilead a $100 million voucher to go along with it.

I attached a story regarding doctors questioning the FDA's decision too. FDA is corrupt was most of the talk on bio boards yesterday.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/d...nt-and-say-it-has-limited-benefits-2020-10-23
 

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I did not see much talk about the FDA's highly controversial approval yesterday of remdesivir as the first drug to treat covid. Not only did the FDA not require the normal rigors for approval they granted Gilead a $100 million voucher to go along with it.

I attached a story regarding doctors questioning the FDA's decision too. FDA is corrupt was most of the talk on bio boards yesterday.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/d...nt-and-say-it-has-limited-benefits-2020-10-23

Great news. Still need a vaccine.
Unfortunately we hit the highest number of cases throughout the pandemic... That's the bad news.
 

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Decisions will have to be made. Age, Nursing home residents, transfers from rural hospitals, discharges to home of people usually admitted based on criteria with follow up calls, etc.

Utah’s hospitals prepare to ration care as a record number of coronavirus patients flood their ICUs (Salt Lake Tribune)

Idaho reports record COVID-19 hospitalizations as daily case rate average nears 900

With flu season coming, Idaho has the lowest flu vaccine rate for adults in the U.S.

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El Paso must be part of the national news template,... I’ve had friends and family from all over the country reach out asking if we are okay in the last 48 hours... lol
 

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Great news. Still need a vaccine.
Unfortunately we hit the highest number of cases throughout the pandemic... That's the bad news.

While it's not great we're at a high, read that only 6% of hospital beds are utilized for covid. I'm sure that varies from city to city and state to state, but that's a much lower average than I expected.
 

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You can't admit someone to a bed if you don't have the staff to care for them.

COVID Spikes Exacerbate Health Worker Shortages in Rocky Mountains, Great Plains


COVID-19 cases are surging in rural places across the Mountain States and Midwest, and when it hits health care workers, ready reinforcements aren’t easy to find.

In Montana, pandemic-induced staffing shortages have shuttered a clinic in the state’s capital, led a northwestern regional hospital to ask employees exposed to COVID-19 to continue to work and emptied a health department 400 miles to the east.

“Just one more person out and we wouldn’t be able to keep the surgeries going,” said Dr. Shelly Harkins, chief medical officer of St. Peter’s Health in Helena, a city of roughly 32,000 where cases continue to spread. “When the virus is just all around you, it’s almost impossible to not be deemed a contact at some point. One case can take out a whole team of people in a blink of an eye.”

In North Dakota, where cases per resident are growing faster than any other state, hospitals may once again curtail elective surgeries and possibly seek government aid to hire more nurses if the situation gets worse, North Dakota Hospital Association President Tim Blasl said.

“How long can we run at this rate with the workforce that we have?” Blasl said. “You can have all the licensed beds you want, but if you don’t have anybody to staff those beds, it doesn’t do you any good.” (cont)

Critical care patient pileups in the ER may be waiting for enough staff, transfers out/discharges or deaths.
 
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IIRC, there are still 600K+ deaths due to influenza worldwide despite a vaccine.

AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine produces robust immune response in elderly
(Ref: Financial Times, Fidelity, CNBC, The Wall Street Journal, MarketWatch, Independent.ie, This is Money, TheStreet, London South East)
October 26th, 2020
By: Anna Bratulic

AstraZeneca disclosed on Monday that its experimental COVID-19 vaccine AZD1222 triggered a robust immune response in elderly and older adults, similar to that previously seen in healthy study volunteers aged between 18 and 55. Adverse events associated with the vaccine, which is being co-developed with the University of Oxford, were also found to be lower in older adults.

The updated findings were based on an analysis of previously conducted interim safety and immune-response data carried out on a subset of older participants, and showed positive outcomes for adults over age 56, including the higher-risk group of those 70 and older, AstraZeneca and the University of Oxford said. In preliminary data from a Phase I/II trial, published in The Lancet in July, AZD1222 was found to have induced both antibody and T-cell responses for at least 56 days in healthy volunteers aged between 18 and 55 years.

The new Phase II data, which the University of Oxford said were discussed at a research conference, also point to a lower level of expected side effects from the vaccine among older people, such as potential fever, body aches and swelling at the injection site. The analysis showed that such reactions were lower in adults age 56 and older than in younger adults, with AstraZeneca noting that the reactions also lessened after the second dose of the vaccine.

'Key milestone'

"It is encouraging to see immunogenicity responses were similar between older and younger adults and that reactogenicity was lower in older adults, where the COVID-19 disease severity is higher," an AstraZeneca spokesman said. Meanwhile, a representative from the University of Oxford stated that the findings mark a "key milestone" in the development of AZD1222, and "[reassure] us that the vaccine is safe for use, and induces strong immune responses in both parts of the immune system, in all adult groups." The university added "these early results covering trial volunteers from the UK in the 56-69 and 70+ age groups have been submitted to a peer-review journal, and we hope to see their publication in the coming weeks."

Moderna's coronavirus vaccine candidate mRNA-1273 has also demonstrated the ability to elicit immune responses in both younger adults aged 18 to 55, as well as older populations.

Restart of US study

AZD1222 is currently undergoing evaluation in a Phase III study, the US arm of which was cleared to resume late last week. The study had been halted since September 6 after a participant developed neurological symptoms.

Meanwhile, a report Monday in the UK newspaper The Sun said staff at a major London hospital trust have been told to be ready to receive the first batches of AstraZeneca's candidate vaccine on the week starting November 2. However, UK health secretary Matt Hancock indicated that while vaccine development was "progressing well," he anticipates "the bulk of the roll out to be in the first half of next year," although he did not rule out the possibility of some people receiving it this year. "We're doing the preparatory work now for how that will be rolled out…and we're doing the logistical work," Hancock said, adding "preparing for a rollout and actually having the stuff to roll out are two different things."
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pfizer will be able to provide 40M vaccine doses by end of year. Also says there will be enough cases in placebo group to conduct efficacy analysis on Friday (which then takes about a week*)<br>*Could be longer depending on infection rate in placebo group <a href="https://t.co/ywHWWVqXGK">https://t.co/ywHWWVqXGK</a></p>— Alicia Smith (@Alicia_Smith19) <a href="https://twitter.com/Alicia_Smith19/status/1321207951986728963?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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Imagine mass protests and riots involving hundreds of people in Philadelphia are going down right now and our dutiful media is like “That one baseball player isn’t wearing a mask.”

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France locking down again, as well as Germany who was the model early on.

Italy now seeing riots for locking down again.

US had less new cases than combined France, Spain, UK, and Italy yesterday while having a higher population. Actually less than combined France, Spain, and UK...
 

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You can't admit someone to a bed if you don't have the staff to care for them.

COVID Spikes Exacerbate Health Worker Shortages in Rocky Mountains, Great Plains



Critical care patient pileups in the ER may be waiting for enough staff, transfers out/discharges or deaths.

Guessing this was posted in response to my 6% post...

Do you really think your post is the norm? Do you really believe it's pushing things down to 6%.... Sure there are some places worse than others, but it's not the reason for a low 6% number...

Meanwhile, we're doing better than Western Europe...
 

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I remember Oahu posting how they were preparing for a surge there and were in such a desperate need for RNs (assuming critical care experience and Advanced Cardiac Life Support certification) that they were paying $125/hr. They may get signing bonuses, and would get housing, airfare, etc. A nurse that resides in Hawaii may earn $75/hr. At the end of August they were preparing papers to bring 140 nurses to the Islands and 15 respiratory therapists. Hawaii would be competing with other states and systems for them. One report says travel nurse pay has tripled with Covid.

Google "Nursing Sign-on bonus" are the results that predate Covid give you an idea what that baseline was and how HC systems are competing for a valuable commodity.

Throughout the U.S. has a severe nursing shortage for all types of nurses. By 2030, the demand for RNs in Texas will fall 71k short of their needs. The skills, training and experience required for critical care work are extensive requiring a familiarity with all the procedures and types of illnesses. Covid surges, although healthcare systems have had preparation time in the Midwest and South, are severely taxing a system with critically ill patients that already was straining to keep up with demands.

Hospitals measure bed capacity with types of beds, staff capacity, and estimate expected increase in patients admitted while estimating how many will need different levels of care. If you are at 80% bed capacity, 75% ICU bed capacity, 100% staff capacity with an expected increase of 100 patients next week, you are in trouble. You need to find staff to care for those expected admits. Critical care for severe Covid patients is lasting weeks without changes in acuity, so you can't expect beds to open up daily despite the significant mortality.

I think someone has also discussed the how the numbers of Covid positive people over time translate to a certain percent of hospitalizations and a certain percent ICU admissions. At this point in Utah, the U. of Utah health system hospitals in Salt Lake City reports their ICU beds are 95% full. 17% of Covid testing for the week of Oct 20 were positive with 13.7 percent rate of COVID-19 tests in the previous week - an increase from 9% in September. Next week's positive rate? The week after?

Currently, Utah’s health care employers reports over 1,200 vacancies for RN positions. It's estimated that roughly one-third of the nursing workforce is planning to retire within the next five to ten years and about 48% of the workforce currently over the age of 45. That population may be able to handle an increase in weekly hours from 40 to 60, but not for long. You would also not wish to have older nurses in higher exposure areas as their risk too would increase with age.

They are creating more ICU bed capacity perhaps by changing other types of ICU units to a Medical ICU unit and would continue to work with other hospitals to divert patients to areas that have beds and staff. Where will we be with rising rates in a month? Two months?
 

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These two need to spend a very long time in jail. From cnn.com

Sisters charged for allegedly stabbing store security guard 27 times after he told them to wear a mask
By Lauren M. Johnson and Kay Jones, CNN

Updated 10:39 PM ET, Wed October 28, 2020

(CNN)Two sisters are being held on attempted first-degree murder charges in Illinois for allegedly stabbing a store security guard after being told they needed to wear a mask and use hand sanitizer.

The sisters entered a retail store and got into a verbal altercation with the victim, a 32-year-old man who was working as a security guard, Chicago Police said.
The Cook County State's Attorney's Office said the man had told the sisters they had to wear a mask and use hand sanitizer.

Their argument became physical when Jessica Hill, 21, pulled out a knife and stabbed him in his back, neck, and arms 27 times, according to the criminal complaint.
Her sister, 18-year-old Jayla Hill, held the victim down by his hair while the attack occurred, according to the complaint. Police said the victim is in stable condition.

Both women were taken to the hospital immediately after the incident for minor lacerations and charged with attempted first-degree murder, according to police.
Jail records show they are currently being held without bond. Their next court hearing is scheduled for November 4, according to jail records. It is unclear who is representing them at this time.
 

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My fiance tested positive yesterday. She works on the rehab floor of our local hospital. There was an outbreak on the floor last week, and now at least 6 staff there are now positive. We are both in quarantine until 11/11, and I am now teaching remotely. She is, for the most part, asymptomatic, though she did feel "off" last Thursday through Saturday. She honestly thought it was her allergies that can flare up during autumn. I've been advised to not get tested unless I develop symptoms.
 

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My fiance tested positive yesterday. She works on the rehab floor of our local hospital. There was an outbreak on the floor last week, and now at least 6 staff there are now positive. We are both in quarantine until 11/11, and I am now teaching remotely. She is, for the most part, asymptomatic, though she did feel "off" last Thursday through Saturday. She honestly thought it was her allergies that can flare up during autumn. I've been advised to not get tested unless I develop symptoms.

Stay safe. My son has to be home for two weeks quarantine b/c one of his classmates tested positive. His classmate had only one day of mild symptoms but his mom is a teacher and did her due diligence. He was fine after one day. My son tested negative and has exhibited zero symptoms. Ironically, he was home sick due to congestion from allergies on the day he would’ve been sent home from school from contact tracing.

Where we live “virtual learning” is hardly that. It’s “go to Google classroom to get your assignment and learn on your own”. Zero live interaction w/ teacher.
 

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My fiance tested positive yesterday. She works on the rehab floor of our local hospital. There was an outbreak on the floor last week, and now at least 6 staff there are now positive. We are both in quarantine until 11/11, and I am now teaching remotely. She is, for the most part, asymptomatic, though she did feel "off" last Thursday through Saturday. She honestly thought it was her allergies that can flare up during autumn. I've been advised to not get tested unless I develop symptoms.

Best wishes, quote a few of my family and friends have had it as well. Thoughts and prayers
 

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Hoping we stay like this. I felt a little fuzzy last night before bed, but I woke up "normal."

In terms of remote teaching, we have other teachers wheeling me around classroom to classroom currently on Zoom so it's working out as well as expected. One of the perks of teaching at a juvenile facility, they're all there and in the classroom all day.
 

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Hoping we stay like this. I felt a little fuzzy last night before bed, but I woke up "normal."

In terms of remote teaching, we have other teachers wheeling me around classroom to classroom currently on Zoom so it's working out as well as expected. One of the perks of teaching at a juvenile facility, they're all there and in the classroom all day.

Good for you & for your students. My daughter is in college and while she wasn’t excited about virtual learning at least she is getting to face-to-face instruction via Zoom from her instructors. My son ain’t learning shit. He’s just checking boxes until he can return on Tuesday.
 

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France locking down again, as well as Germany who was the model early on.

Italy now seeing riots for locking down again.

US had less new cases than combined France, Spain, UK, and Italy yesterday while having a higher population. Actually less than combined France, Spain, and UK...

The same Italy that scolded the US for not being more like them? TDS is an international affliction. There’s not a leader in this world who has beaten COVID-19. Unfortunately, leaders are forced to fly the plane as they are building it but you sure as hell don’t hide in a basement & tell everyone the world is ending.
 

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The same Italy that scolded the US for not being more like them? TDS is an international affliction. There’s not a leader in this world who has beaten COVID-19. Unfortunately, leaders are forced to fly the plane as they are building it but you sure as hell don’t hide in a basement & tell everyone the world is ending.

They also don't test even close to as well as the US does.
 

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The same Italy that scolded the US for not being more like them? TDS is an international affliction. There’s not a leader in this world who has beaten COVID-19. Unfortunately, leaders are forced to fly the plane as they are building it but you sure as hell don’t hide in a basement & tell everyone the world is ending.

Jacinta Arden in New Zealand has done pretty well tbf
 

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Jacinta Arden in New Zealand has done pretty well tbf

Being a geographically isolated country indeed has benefits at times. If i recall correctly, they were being pretty draconian with their lockdowns too.

Neither of which are possible in the United States.
 

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The same Italy that scolded the US for not being more like them? TDS is an international affliction. There’s not a leader in this world who has beaten COVID-19. Unfortunately, leaders are forced to fly the plane as they are building it but you sure as hell don’t hide in a basement & tell everyone the world is ending.

Which current world leader is doing this?
 

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My fiance tested positive yesterday. She works on the rehab floor of our local hospital. There was an outbreak on the floor last week, and now at least 6 staff there are now positive. We are both in quarantine until 11/11, and I am now teaching remotely. She is, for the most part, asymptomatic, though she did feel "off" last Thursday through Saturday. She honestly thought it was her allergies that can flare up during autumn. I've been advised to not get tested unless I develop symptoms.

Just curious...who advised you not to get tested? Only reason I ask is my fiance got tested yesterday ( she has a few symptoms) but we haven't gotten results back.
 

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Just curious...who advised you not to get tested? Only reason I ask is my fiance got tested yesterday ( she has a few symptoms) but we haven't gotten results back.

My Doctor's office said not to. I might be a false negative for now. If I experience symptoms then get tested. Since I live with my fiance, I have to quarantine whether I'm positive or negative, so eh what's it matter too.
 
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