COVID-19

[Polish Leppy 22]

football does not need to happen

For a number of these athletic departments to stay afloat, college football needs to happen. Even if it is an 8 or 10 game season.

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Solving the San Clemente Mask Shortage Part 1. Directed/edited by Dan Lucchesi <a href="https://t.co/pQIqbAVE69">pic.twitter.com/pQIqbAVE69</a></p>— Chad Kroeger (@chadgoesdeep) <a href="https://twitter.com/chadgoesdeep/status/1287789512890839040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Solving the San Clemente Mask Shortage Part 2. Directed/edited by Dan Lucchesi <a href="https://t.co/cI6fP1KMsP">pic.twitter.com/cI6fP1KMsP</a></p>— Chad Kroeger (@chadgoesdeep) <a href="https://twitter.com/chadgoesdeep/status/1287790214786584578?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Solving the San Clemente Mask Shortage Part 3. Directed/edited by Dan Lucchesi <a href="https://t.co/jnM9l0kntH">pic.twitter.com/jnM9l0kntH</a></p>— Chad Kroeger (@chadgoesdeep) <a href="https://twitter.com/chadgoesdeep/status/1287790804363169792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[ab2cmiller]

This whole thing has been politicized by people on both sides of the aisle. I have zero doubt that Big Pharma was involved in conducting studies of Hydroxychloroquine where they knew it wouldn't succeed, which was the very seriously ill and taking it in a preventative measure. The initial studies chose to totally avoid the most likely benefit of this drug, prescribing it early in the course of the illness. They've branded this cheap drug as a failure so that much more expensive treatments will be prescribed instead. Doctors in the US have been potentially risking their reputations as they buck what the national media keeps selling.

The Newsweek article is from Harvey A. Risch, MD, PhD , Professor of Epidemiology, Yale School of Public Health

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1287080158244020226[/TWEET]

 

[Irishize]

This whole thing has been politicized by people on both sides of the aisle. I have zero doubt that Big Pharma was involved in conducting studies of Hydroxychloroquine where they knew it wouldn't succeed, which was the very seriously ill and taking it in a preventative measure. The initial studies chose to totally avoid the most likely benefit of this drug, prescribing it early in the course of the illness. They've branded this cheap drug as a failure so that much more expensive treatments will be prescribed instead. Doctors in the US have been potentially risking their reputations as they buck what the national media keeps selling.

The Newsweek article is from Harvey A. Risch, MD, PhD , Professor of Epidemiology, Yale School of Public Health

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The key to defeating COVID-19 already exists. We need to start using it | Opinion <a href="https://t.co/k1mzaOLhg9">https://t.co/k1mzaOLhg9</a></p>— Newsweek (@Newsweek) <a href="https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1287080158244020226?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I posted this in the “Science” thread. Get ready to hear from a lot of Dr. Risch’s peers in 3...2...1

 

[ab2cmiller]

I posted this in the “Science” thread. Get ready to hear from a lot of Dr. Risch’s peers in 3...2...1

Sorry, I missed it.

 

[Irishize]

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[Irishize]

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[JurDocDuLac]

...They need to pull the plug on college sports for the remainder of the year. I know they don’t want to lose that revenue but the rest of the country has had to deal w/ lost revenue, lost wages, lost jobs, lost lives. Shut it down now.

Irishize shifts into adult mode, puts on his big-boy pants, and speaks the truth that we.just.do.not.want.to.hear.

But wait! We can do a football bubble with a football dorm, right?
And the campus is small and isolated anyway…

I really love my Irish - love is blind.

 

[Ndaccountant]

For a number of these athletic departments to stay afloat, college football needs to happen. Even if it is an 8 or 10 game season.

And they would only have themselves to blame in the event it collapses. The revenues have skyrocketed in the last two decades and they spent it all. Sure, they now have facilities with cool pools, arcade rooms, display closets for alt uniforms and barber shops.

They expanded coaching staffs and added new layers to the Athletic Department that didn't exist 20 years ago.

Frankly, the whole thing has been out of control and, as much as we don't like to hear it, runs contrary to the mission of higher education. According to their own statistics, National Champ LSU has just over 31,000 students and the average student graduates with over $26,000 in student debt. That means, in an average year, over $200M of student debt is accumulated on campus. In the latest data released (2018/2019 school year), LSU recorded just over $155M in revenue and $150M in expenses. In the 2004/2005 school year, LSU had a budget of $55M (Their revenue was just over $60M).

So, despite over a 250% increase in revenue, the amount turned over to the general budget of the school remains largely unchanged (at a school with some serious funding issues to boot). If LSU would have spent at half the rate of increase, they could have reduced the 2018/2019 student loan load by nearly 25% and could have potentially weathered a Covid19 storm. You could probably replace LSU with countless other schools and the trend and figures would be nearly the same.

But instead, they pleaded with donors to play in the arms race and treated the money was if this were Monopoly. This was always going blow up. Congress is looking to get involved, you have the threat of player boycotts in the PAC 12 and, at some point, the players were going to be paid (and deservedly so under the current framework). It was a matter of when it was going to blow up, not if.

As far as I am concerned, this a good thing. Perhaps it will keep football for what it was always intended to be and will allow college football to flourish beyond the current path it was on.

 

[317Irish]

I'm just wondering if Shawn Crawford can get a 7th year.

I enjoyed this post. Reps

 

[Circa]

I'm just wondering if Shawn Crawford can get a 7th year.

He should... he'd probably be in Alabama,.... 1st year freshman, 300 miles south.

 

[RDU Irish]

And they would only have themselves to blame in the event it collapses. The revenues have skyrocketed in the last two decades and they spent it all. Sure, they now have facilities with cool pools, arcade rooms, display closets for alt uniforms and barber shops.

They expanded coaching staffs and added new layers to the Athletic Department that didn't exist 20 years ago.

Frankly, the whole thing has been out of control and, as much as we don't like to hear it, runs contrary to the mission of higher education. According to their own statistics, National Champ LSU has just over 31,000 students and the average student graduates with over $26,000 in student debt. That means, in an average year, over $200M of student debt is accumulated on campus. In the latest data released (2018/2019 school year), LSU recorded just over $155M in revenue and $150M in expenses. In the 2004/2005 school year, LSU had a budget of $55M (Their revenue was just over $60M).

So, despite over a 250% increase in revenue, the amount turned over to the general budget of the school remains largely unchanged (at a school with some serious funding issues to boot). If LSU would have spent at half the rate of increase, they could have reduced the 2018/2019 student loan load by nearly 25% and could have potentially weathered a Covid19 storm. You could probably replace LSU with countless other schools and the trend and figures would be nearly the same.

But instead, they pleaded with donors to play in the arms race and treated the money was if this were Monopoly. This was always going blow up. Congress is looking to get involved, you have the threat of player boycotts in the PAC 12 and, at some point, the players were going to be paid (and deservedly so under the current framework). It was a matter of when it was going to blow up, not if.

As far as I am concerned, this a good thing. Perhaps it will keep football for what it was always intended to be and will allow college football to flourish beyond the current path it was on.

I would love to see the median instead of average for student debt. $26k is a great deal for an undergraduate education at about any major university. It's more than just athletics. Country club atmosphere for all students is an arms race.

Now bloated bureaucracy across the country have to face the piper when the golden goose is taken away and the cost/value is questioned for predominantly online classes. Anyone remember our Lady saying they would require on campus for students (locking in $16k year room and board)?

Zero focus on lowering cost anywhere for decades.

 

[JurDocDuLac]

Anyone remember our Lady saying they would require on campus for students (locking in $16k year room and board)?

Zero focus on lowering cost anywhere for decades.

RDU, on-campus living is fundamental to the community and culture that makes Notre Dame unique - what students seek out compared to other schools.

Living on campus is an essential part of the formation of ND graduates and our value system (and I say that as someone who also lived off-campus and knows the difference).

On-campus living adds a huge amount of ND-exclusive community activities that form the ND experience. We have an approach to a university-level education that goes far beyond classroom and sports attendance.

It is not done to make money!

And to be quite honest, I have heard many more students/alums praise the on-campus community than brag about off-campus savings.

 

[Circa]

football does not need to happen

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[irishff1014]

And here we go playing politics again. Now another trillion plus relief package being put together and someone on the right side is trying to put a new fbi headquarters in it. I don’t agree on another relief bill that I am going to pay for by working my ass off. I sure as hell don’t agree with this idea. And I am pretty sure the excuse will be but the left tried to do blah blah blah. If you your going to try and help the people than shut the hell up and do the right thing. I don’t care if you are republican or Democrat.

 

[TorontoGold]

And here we go playing politics again. Now another trillion plus relief package being put together and someone on the right side is trying to put a new fbi headquarters in it. I don’t agree on another relief bill that I am going to pay for by working my ass off. I sure as hell don’t agree with this idea. And I am pretty sure the excuse will be but the left tried to do blah blah blah. If you your going to try and help the people than shut the hell up and do the right thing. I don’t care if you are republican or Democrat.

My man, this is spot on.

 

[Irish#1]

And they would only have themselves to blame in the event it collapses. The revenues have skyrocketed in the last two decades and they spent it all. Sure, they now have facilities with cool pools, arcade rooms, display closets for alt uniforms and barber shops.

They expanded coaching staffs and added new layers to the Athletic Department that didn't exist 20 years ago.

Frankly, the whole thing has been out of control and, as much as we don't like to hear it, runs contrary to the mission of higher education. According to their own statistics, National Champ LSU has just over 31,000 students and the average student graduates with over $26,000 in student debt. That means, in an average year, over $200M of student debt is accumulated on campus. In the latest data released (2018/2019 school year), LSU recorded just over $155M in revenue and $150M in expenses. In the 2004/2005 school year, LSU had a budget of $55M (Their revenue was just over $60M).

So, despite over a 250% increase in revenue, the amount turned over to the general budget of the school remains largely unchanged (at a school with some serious funding issues to boot). If LSU would have spent at half the rate of increase, they could have reduced the 2018/2019 student loan load by nearly 25% and could have potentially weathered a Covid19 storm. You could probably replace LSU with countless other schools and the trend and figures would be nearly the same.

But instead, they pleaded with donors to play in the arms race and treated the money was if this were Monopoly. This was always going blow up. Congress is looking to get involved, you have the threat of player boycotts in the PAC 12 and, at some point, the players were going to be paid (and deservedly so under the current framework). It was a matter of when it was going to blow up, not if.

As far as I am concerned, this a good thing. Perhaps it will keep football for what it was always intended to be and will allow college football to flourish beyond the current path it was on.

Some additional notes to this.
1. The lower level P5 schools along with FCS will be the ones affected the most.
2. Many D1 schools athletic departments run separately from the school budget and have to maintain their own budget and funding. If that money dries up, schools will drop sports that aren't called football or basketball.
3. The arms race in college isn't just in athletics. Many schools are building a ton of new facilities with elaborate amenities to attract students.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

And they would only have themselves to blame in the event it collapses. The revenues have skyrocketed in the last two decades and they spent it all. Sure, they now have facilities with cool pools, arcade rooms, display closets for alt uniforms and barber shops.

They expanded coaching staffs and added new layers to the Athletic Department that didn't exist 20 years ago.

Frankly, the whole thing has been out of control and, as much as we don't like to hear it, runs contrary to the mission of higher education. According to their own statistics, National Champ LSU has just over 31,000 students and the average student graduates with over $26,000 in student debt. That means, in an average year, over $200M of student debt is accumulated on campus. In the latest data released (2018/2019 school year), LSU recorded just over $155M in revenue and $150M in expenses. In the 2004/2005 school year, LSU had a budget of $55M (Their revenue was just over $60M).

So, despite over a 250% increase in revenue, the amount turned over to the general budget of the school remains largely unchanged (at a school with some serious funding issues to boot). If LSU would have spent at half the rate of increase, they could have reduced the 2018/2019 student loan load by nearly 25% and could have potentially weathered a Covid19 storm. You could probably replace LSU with countless other schools and the trend and figures would be nearly the same.

But instead, they pleaded with donors to play in the arms race and treated the money was if this were Monopoly. This was always going blow up. Congress is looking to get involved, you have the threat of player boycotts in the PAC 12 and, at some point, the players were going to be paid (and deservedly so under the current framework). It was a matter of when it was going to blow up, not if.

As far as I am concerned, this a good thing. Perhaps it will keep football for what it was always intended to be and will allow college football to flourish beyond the current path it was on.

I agree on some points, disagree on others.

1. If college athletic departments collapse, it will be due to Covid.

2. $26k in debt after graduation is a steal these days, but I don't enjoy skyrocketing tuition any more than you do.

3. I can see Congress trying to get involved with state/public schools, but privately funded schools like ND and others will tell Congress to get bent.

4. Sorry, this is not a good thing if it goes south. When schools get rid of programs due to revenue loss, scholarships and financial aid go with them. Those are thousands of opportunities for kids to get a shot at higher education. If you're upset with student debt, it would make sense to be in favor of more athletic scholarships to kids so they can graduate college debt free.

 

[Irish#1]

If the money isn't there, I suppose schools could suspend some sports for just a year. Two negatives would be kids transfering so they wouldn't miss a year and how long would that affect the program once it starts back up? Would kids be hesitant to go to a school that was trying to restart a program?

 

[ARALOU]

Tennessee high schools are playing football starting Aug 21st. Regular schedule. Start practice immediately.

 

[notredomer23]

I know it may be a little premature, but early indications are Texas, Arizona, and Florida are past their peak. Georgia, Alabama, and Louisiana may have peaked. The Carolinas and California may have approached it as well. Looks like Tennessee and Mississippi are still struggling to control the outbreak.

The SEC heard football was in jeopardy and decided to get their act together.

 

[dublinirish]

I know it may be a little premature, but early indications are Texas, Arizona, and Florida are past their peak. Georgia, Alabama, and Louisiana may have peaked. The Carolinas and California may have approached it as well. Looks like Tennessee and Mississippi are still struggling to control the outbreak.

The SEC heard football was in jeopardy and decided to get their act together.

set a record for deaths beating the previous record, the day before

https://www.tampabay.com/news/healt...ore-than-200-coronavirus-deaths-a-new-record/

 

[notredomer23]

set a record for deaths beating the previous record, the day before

https://www.tampabay.com/news/healt...ore-than-200-coronavirus-deaths-a-new-record/

Not to sound insensitive, but deaths are a lagging indicator and pretty irrelevant in determining if under control or not.

 

[Circa]

Tennessee high schools are playing football starting Aug 21st. Regular schedule. Start practice immediately.

Good for Tennessee! I know I'm insensitive to the political virus. Watch how numbers decline on November 3rd through the 10th....

It's a money thing, and anyone trying to understand just look at the way most every CFB/NFL team are going to play football over ad revenue. It's like saying nobody needs healthcare,... while a pandemic Is reportedly destroying our country.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

Good for Tennessee! I know I'm insensitive to the political virus. Watch how numbers decline on November 3rd through the 10th.....

If you can not trivialize the suffering of multiple people I know who have been in an ICU, friends who have lost family, and my two friends who are COVID ICU nurses I'd appreciate it.

 

[JurDocDuLac]

If you can not trivialize the suffering of multiple people I know who have been in an ICU, friends who have lost family, and my two friends who are COVID ICU nurses I'd appreciate it.

Thank you Golden.

Covid-19 is increasingly a personal issue for many, where politics and cynicism are not only insensitive, but deliberately hurtful.

 

[Circa]

The government has an incentive to shut this kind of stuff down, because it takes advantage of the intellectually vulnerable who think a lady batting 0.000 somehow cracked the code on a virus.

Likely in her contract, any sort of research she did was property of the company. Just like any job where you create something while at work, its property of the company.

Ya got me...... As I keep saying.... This whole movement doesn't take a weird idea. It already has Clinton's deregulation of the media in the 90's. NAFTA, the deregulation of the media, the deregulation of banks....
Are you an older gentleman from Canada? If so the media might be blinding..

 

[phork]

Good for Tennessee! I know I'm insensitive to the political virus. Watch how numbers decline on November 3rd through the 10th....

It's a money thing, and anyone trying to understand just look at the way most every CFB/NFL team are going to play football over ad revenue. It's like saying nobody needs healthcare,... while a pandemic Is reportedly destroying our country.

Gonna be amazing when it totally disappears as soon as Biden is elected.

 

[Circa]

If you can not trivialize the suffering of multiple people I know who have been in an ICU, friends who have lost family, and my two friends who are COVID ICU nurses I'd appreciate it.

I can't. I honestly can NOT feel for those that are unhealthy and eating fast food every day.
Do I feel bad for those that can't stand next to the people they love? YES! I feel terrible that the idea of being healthy and how to be healthy still Isn't being pushed by anyone. I'm at a loss for words. I feel terrible that this capitalism thing that was put in place... hasn't helped anyone.....lol

Can you please send more info on the hospitals that are being afffected? I've not seen one.

On another note... The Athletes we all love to watch in order to relieve our stress.... NOT ONE has been affected by the virus. and had any real symptom.... Catch and release....

If...in 1918, the Flu that everyone still gets; was treated like this political thing is... None of us would exist in this day and age.... Our bodies are made to resist these things.
I hope everyone stops blaming others for their unhealthy behavior.
#1 If you can afford to eat out every night and sit all day.... Unhealthy

 

[Circa]

Gonna be amazing when it totally disappears as soon as Biden is elected.

LOL. It'll be gone by Black Friday..IMO. Unless too many people donate to the corporations that already received the biggest transfer of wealth in the countries existence... Care Act my ass!.... More like Greed Act! Thanks Nancy and Sanders....

Do you really think Biden can run the country? I don't want Trump, but Biden??? Really! Geez.

Trump Is an odd one and i don't think anyone can argue. But Biden Is just weird.., and Clinton Is a crook. Sanders seems bought off.

#Vote CIRCA 2020!