COVID-19

[Some Irish Bloke]

Yah well had full shut downs and masks occurred in February, we'd probably be through this shit show.
Luckily I live in Canada where we had flattened it! Good luck to ya though.

Hard to read that and not read the final sentence in a Canadian accent

 

[phork]

US had a high day yesterday around 1K, but that’s just cuz of the holiday lag. Our 7 day average is still around 550

Indeed. Its only going to get worse. 1st million cases in 99 days, 2nd million 43, 3rd 28. Thank god no one can tell 'Murica what to do.

 

[Legacy93]

Indeed. Its only going to get worse. 1st million cases in 99 days, 2nd million 43, 3rd 28. Thank god no one can tell 'Murica what to do.

You would acknowledge that you're talking about identified cases which for the US is largely a function of the testing capacity ramping up, right? If you had the same testing capacity back in March, the picture would be vastly different. More testing is good, but just want there to be some transparency around what is driving those numbers.

 

[ab2cmiller]

# of cases is a meaningless stat on it's own. Most of the MSM is focusing only # of cases for their Panic Porn.

# of cases in relation to % positive is a little better stat

# of hospitalizations is a better stat

# of deaths is the best stat as long as the methodology of what is deemed a Covid death doesn't change over time.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Indeed. Its only going to get worse. 1st million cases in 99 days, 2nd million 43, 3rd 28. Thank god no one can tell 'Murica what to do.

So less than 1% iof the population in 6 and a half months? And that's with reopening?

That's actually kind of amazing.

 

[ARALOU]

I have a friend that was tested 3 times, 1 pos, 1 negative, 1 pos. Another tested twice with 2 negative. How were those counted against the total? 1 negative and 1 positive or 2 positive and 3 negative?

 

[TorontoGold]

So less than 1% iof the population in 6 and a half months? And that's with reopening?

That's actually kind of amazing.

To put it in perspective - 26% of the coronavirus cases in the world for 4% of the world population.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I have a friend that was tested 3 times, 1 pos, 1 negative, 1 pos. Another tested twice with 2 negative. How were those counted against the total? 1 negative and 1 positive or 2 positive and 3 negative?

Depends on the state I think

 

[ACamp1900]

To put it in perspective - 26% of the coronavirus cases in the world for 4% of the world population.

Is this including China’s pristine numbers??

 

[PerthDomer]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/08/ppe-shortage-masks-gloves-gowns/

Wish I could say this was surprising.

 

[Irish#1]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/08/ppe-shortage-masks-gloves-gowns/

Wish I could say this was surprising.

And it's not production capacity, but the raw material supply line that's the problem.

 

[TorontoGold]

Is this including China’s pristine numbers??

Yup. I would total US cases are 3.16M and total overall cases are 12.2M. If you're willing to say China is hiding roughly 67M cases then the US is in line with population to COVID cases.

 

[Circa]

Welp, knowing what dems did during the collusion delusion and Kav hearings, I wouldn't either. I wouldn't let anyone anywhere near Pelosi's "oversight" folks...

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[Circa]

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This simple song resonates. get herr

 

[Circa]

Chill out Canada. Montreal says so.

 

[Irishize]

I believe most, if not all; on these threads are compliant in wearing a mask in public. That stated, I can see why there’s so many citizens who are not. The mixed messaging from Trump, the media, the CDC, the medical community, state/federal leaders has been a shit show and littered w/ enough misinformation that there’s no shortage of conspiracy theories & arguments over wearing a mask.

THREAD:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The CDC didn’t change their recommendations about face masks until early April. <a href="https://t.co/chq5Aqnfwx">https://t.co/chq5Aqnfwx</a></p>— Elias Atienza (@AtienzaElias) <a href="https://twitter.com/AtienzaElias/status/1282112170667528193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Irishize]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yeah good thing we weren’t told back in February not to wear masks by national cable news. <a href="https://t.co/9TO9Cku93M">https://t.co/9TO9Cku93M</a> <a href="https://t.co/iJWQMvz65v">pic.twitter.com/iJWQMvz65v</a></p>— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) <a href="https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1282146016506998790?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[irishff1014]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yeah good thing we weren’t told back in February not to wear masks by national cable news. <a href="https://t.co/9TO9Cku93M">https://t.co/9TO9Cku93M</a> <a href="https://t.co/iJWQMvz65v">pic.twitter.com/iJWQMvz65v</a></p>— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) <a href="https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1282146016506998790?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And dumb ass Dr. Fauci himself went back and forth like a ping pong ball about the mask.

I bet half the mask don’t work. Those sleeves people wear are trash. I have seen 3 different kind and th print they have on them bleeds right through the inside of them. Some of the surgical mask that companies are selling aren’t even rated.

 

[Circa]

And it's not production capacity, but the raw material supply line that's the problem.

We better ask china.... They fix everything.

 

[Circa]

And dumb ass Dr. Fauci himself went back and forth like a ping pong ball about the mask.

I bet half the mask don’t work. Those sleeves people wear are trash. I have seen 3 different kind and th print they have on them bleeds right through the inside of them. Some of the surgical mask that companies are selling aren’t even rated.

All I can say is, when the stock on 3m masks drops... BUY. Buy as much as you can afford.
People will still stay uninformed and purchase face incubators. Hopefully they catch covid 20 first.

 

[Legacy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/08/ppe-shortage-masks-gloves-gowns/

Wish I could say this was surprising.

It's criminal. If I lose a fam member because of the shortage there... This has been like the Keystone Kops. Any business run like these idiots have would go under quickly.

In a survey of 23,000 registered nurses, National Nurses United found 85 percent were asked to reuse masks designed for single use - but Pence says PPE supplies remain “very strong”. Pence is in charge of coronavirus "messaging". Fools.

 

[JTLA]

MASKS

MASKS

It's criminal. If I lose a fam member because of the shortage there... This has been like the Keystone Kops. Any business run like these idiots have would go under quickly.

In a survey of 23,000 registered nurses, National Nurses United found 85 percent were asked to reuse masks designed for single use - but Pence says PPE supplies remain “very strong”. Pence is in charge of coronavirus "messaging". Fools.

I don't post here much, but I'd like to share the following. Just a general response to the group.

I work for a big distributor of Medical devices and supplies. We absolutely knew that there was going to be a PPE shortage back in January. We began putting customers on what is called "allocation" which means all customers were permitted to buy only a percentage (70% at the start I believe) of their normal amount. Customers not previously having us as a vendor were not allowed to purchase at all. By April, we had staffed up and innovated a way to decontaminate the disposable facial coverings and N95 masks., and we sold hundreds of thousands We were blocked from being able to label these masks as anything more than "facial coverings" by the FDA. Perhaps there was a good reason for this, and perhaps it was political. I will also say have to say that Project Airbridge was valuable in cutting the timeline of the delivery of millions of masks. It's important to recognize that we use a lot of masks in this country! One hospital system (about 50 hospitals) that we supply uses 700,000 per day. For perspective, the reason this crisis was coming and everyone knew it is that there were and are mostly all produced in Wuhan. Whether the virus ever came to our shores or not, we were going to have a crisis. Manufacturers are very slow to make changes in process and distribution patterns. The Defense Production Act would have forced them to act and perhaps protected their losses that would have been incurred, but it was never used.

The reason that the message changed over time IMHO is obvious and it's unfortunate that it became politicized or still serves to confuse people. The PPE crisis was so acute when it started that the CDC and others were hesitant to recommend their widespread use because we didn't know how bad this shortage would get. Don't get me wrong, it got bad - and has recovered quite a bit, and I guess now it's coming back a bit - although I don't here as much about it internally. It's easy to look back now and see where the 'high water' mark of the shortage was, but in February, there was no way to predict that. They simply had to prioritize the most resources to those with the most acute demand. And if you don't believe that, you're really not gonna like it when you learn how a free market medical system works.

Of course a facial covering works. Mostly to protect others. The CDC was never confused about this, but leaders had to prioritize needs.

Masks work.
Anything works.
Some things work better than others.
Coughing into your elbow works.
Your mom taught you this.
But masks work.

Don't get confused by the politics. Even pre-Covid you would never consider a surgeon who doesn't use a mask. Think about that for a minute.

 

[Circa]

I believe most, if not all; on these threads are compliant in wearing a mask in public. That stated, I can see why there’s so many citizens who are not. The mixed messaging from Trump, the media, the CDC, the medical community, state/federal leaders has been a shit show and littered w/ enough misinformation that there’s no shortage of conspiracy theories & arguments over wearing a mask.

THREAD:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The CDC didn’t change their recommendations about face masks until early April. <a href="https://t.co/chq5Aqnfwx">https://t.co/chq5Aqnfwx</a></p>— Elias Atienza (@AtienzaElias) <a href="https://twitter.com/AtienzaElias/status/1282112170667528193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It was Fauci. When these questions came up he put Fauci in the limelight.

 

[Circa]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yeah good thing we weren’t told back in February not to wear masks by national cable news. <a href="https://t.co/9TO9Cku93M">https://t.co/9TO9Cku93M</a> <a href="https://t.co/iJWQMvz65v">pic.twitter.com/iJWQMvz65v</a></p>— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) <a href="https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1282146016506998790?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Some say Jake Tapper Is a fraud. IDK.
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The truth Is easy to listen to. It's actually hilarious, compared to the knobs like Tapper.

If Jimmy Dore was stating false facts about CNN, you can guarantee CNN would sue The Dore show into oblivion.
I would love to watch the judge Judy show that makes sense of this video.

 

[Circa]

YEP. This did happen recently.

I think It's a mayor of a heavily populated area at that.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chicago’s mayor . You can’t make this stuff up <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/3LgpWFIfCG">pic.twitter.com/3LgpWFIfCG</a></p>— Always Irish ☘️ (@jkznd4) <a href="https://twitter.com/jkznd4/status/1282847443600773120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
This Is a racists bit. I'm confused.

It's racist according to the terms the woke have provided.

 

[Circa]

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[Circa]

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LOL. IDK. It's a mess out there.



The weirdness Is not held to our Continent...


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[JurDocDuLac]

I don't post here much, but I'd like to share the following. Just a general response to the group.

JTLA, thank you for your personal and valuable insight into the Covid-19 situation.

Sorry the opportunity to be read and responded to got swallowed up by five straight "posts" from a single poster, which really did not add anything to the conversation.

 

[JurDocDuLac]

I don't post here much, but I'd like to share the following. Just a general response to the group.

I work for a big distributor of Medical devices and supplies. We absolutely knew that there was going to be a PPE shortage back in January. We began putting customers on what is called "allocation" which means all customers were permitted to buy only a percentage (70% at the start I believe) of their normal amount. Customers not previously having us as a vendor were not allowed to purchase at all. By April, we had staffed up and innovated a way to decontaminate the disposable facial coverings and N95 masks., and we sold hundreds of thousands We were blocked from being able to label these masks as anything more than "facial coverings" by the FDA. Perhaps there was a good reason for this, and perhaps it was political. I will also say have to say that Project Airbridge was valuable in cutting the timeline of the delivery of millions of masks. It's important to recognize that we use a lot of masks in this country! One hospital system (about 50 hospitals) that we supply uses 700,000 per day. For perspective, the reason this crisis was coming and everyone knew it is that there were and are mostly all produced in Wuhan. Whether the virus ever came to our shores or not, we were going to have a crisis. Manufacturers are very slow to make changes in process and distribution patterns. The Defense Production Act would have forced them to act and perhaps protected their losses that would have been incurred, but it was never used.

The reason that the message changed over time IMHO is obvious and it's unfortunate that it became politicized or still serves to confuse people. The PPE crisis was so acute when it started that the CDC and others were hesitant to recommend their widespread use because we didn't know how bad this shortage would get. Don't get me wrong, it got bad - and has recovered quite a bit, and I guess now it's coming back a bit - although I don't here as much about it internally. It's easy to look back now and see where the 'high water' mark of the shortage was, but in February, there was no way to predict that. They simply had to prioritize the most resources to those with the most acute demand. And if you don't believe that, you're really not gonna like it when you learn how a free market medical system works.

Of course a facial covering works. Mostly to protect others. The CDC was never confused about this, but leaders had to prioritize needs.

Masks work.
Anything works.
Some things work better than others.
Coughing into your elbow works.
Your mom taught you this.
But masks work.

Don't get confused by the politics. Even pre-Covid you would never consider a surgeon who doesn't use a mask. Think about that for a minute.

Oh heck, I´ll just paste your post again because I really think it´s worth getting read, not covered over.

 

[Circa]

JTLA, thank you for your personal and valuable insight into the Covid-19 situation.

Sorry the opportunity to be read and responded to got swallowed up by five straight "posts" from a single poster, which really did not add anything to the conversation.

Is that your way of baiting me?

I'm not going to argue. I'm sorry you feel that way.
You would have had to speed read a video....
You can't download info into your brain yet......

Anything-Value. I take Value every time.