COVID-19

[ACamp1900]

Are you familiar with the theories of fellow Canuck Marshall McLuhan on communication? Read some of his work back in the late 80's during my first crack at college. Pretty interesting stuff.

The blur that is those three weeks at Crafton Hills Community College,...

 

[yankeehater]

The blur that is those three weeks at Crafting Hills Community College,...

If you are talking about the college I am thinking of, then it must have been a blur because it is Crafton Hills not Crafting out in Mentone Beach/Yucaipa area of California.

 

[ACamp1900]

If you are talking about the college I am thinking of, then it must have been a blur because it is Crafton Hills not Crafting out in Mentone Beach/Yucaipa area of California.

I changed it too and it auto’d back damnit!!! Yeah the one in Yucaipa, it’s close enough to Bluto’s stomping Grounds. Seems like every burn out I know took a class there at some point.,. Lol

 

[yankeehater]

I changed it too and it auto’d back damnit!!! Yeah the one in Yucaipa, it’s close enough to Bluto’s stomping Grounds. Seems like every burn out I know took a class there at some point.,. Lol

They had a little golf course too. Only place I ever holed out from the fairway!

I went to college a few miles down the 10 fwy.

 

[ACamp1900]

They had a little golf course too. Only place I ever holed out from the fairway!

I went to college a few miles down the 10 fwy.

U of R??

 

[yankeehater]

U of R??

Yes sir. Hall of Famer to boot so I got going for me. LOL!

 

[ACamp1900]

I taught a couple courses there years back. Used to live right behind the Redlands Bowl off Olive. Beautiful campus

 

[TorontoGold]

Are you familiar with the theories of fellow Canuck Marshall McLuhan on communication? Read some of his work back in the late 80's during my first crack at college. Pretty interesting stuff.

Nope, but you're right, his stuff is very interesting!

(Distracted me from the impending CAD tax filing deadline. Damn American's can file extensions for anything!)

 

[Legacy]

With those who are unemployment hitting a record (since the Great Depression) 39 million Americans and their families, those who have also lost their health insurance is an additional blow and extremely serious. Those who cannot rely on Medicaid due to difficult to qualify eligibility criteria - and who have not expanded Medicaid - are in more dire situations.

One of those is Texas, who prior to the novel coronavirus, had the highest rate of residents without health insurance - 18%. Texas has additionally seen the impact of those who lost their jobs as the oil prices crashed.

They lost their jobs and insurance in the pandemic. Now they’re slipping through Texas’ health care safety net.
Texas had the highest uninsured rate of any state before the outbreak. It's also among a minority of states that have declined to expand Medicaid coverage to people with incomes near or below the poverty line.
(Texas Tribune)

This article details the impacts on individuals.

Excerpts:

Laci Crosson’s son doesn’t have pills to manage his attention deficit disorder.

Betty Canales is worried about how she’ll pay for her diabetes medication.

Stevie Smith saw a doctor after she was furloughed — and paid more than double her usual price.

With the U.S. economy flailing as the country contends with the coronavirus pandemic, more than 1 million Texans have likely suffered the double whammy of losing their jobs and their employer-based health insurance. Some have landed in the state’s patchy health care safety net, where advocates say they could be cut off from physical and mental health services while facing the economic strain of a public health crisis.

Already home to more than 5 million uninsured residents — or about 18% of its population, the highest uninsured rate of any state — Texas is in the minority of states that have declined to expand Medicaid coverage to people with incomes near or below the poverty line.

The result: Of 1.6 million Texans who have likely lost employer-sponsored health insurance during the pandemic, 30,000 would be eligible for Medicaid if the state expanded the program, according to recent estimates from the Kaiser Family Foundation.

Instead, they’re uninsured, and many more are expected to join them.

Texas’ approach stands in contrast to the 36 states that have expanded Medicaid to cover adults who earn less than 138% of the poverty line, about $36,000 a year for a family of four.

More than half of the newly uninsured residents in those states will qualify for Medicaid, leaving less than one quarter of unemployed workers without insurance, according to projections from the Urban Institute.

In Texas and the other states that rejected Medicaid expansion, one-third of the newly jobless are estimated to get Medicaid, with 40% becoming uninsured.

The impacts on the state and possibly taxes would include an increase in uncompensated care at hospitals..

 

[Legacy]

Brace for the next coronavirus impact: destruction of state, city budgets (Dallas Morning News)

When the economic damage from the coronavirus and Texas’ shutdown is finally calculated, state, city and county budgets will be listed as casualties.

Texas Comptroller Glenn Hegar plans to update the state’s revenue forecast by July, and he’s signaled that he’ll lower his estimate by several billion dollars. And since no one knows how quickly businesses and consumer spending will rebound, it is clear that tough times are ahead for the state. As Gov. Greg Abbott takes the next steps to reopen the Texas economy, he must also begin a frank, public conversation about the state’s looming budget challenges.

Even when Texans are back to work, public budgets will be upside down, with more demands for services than money to pay for them. The next legislative session is expected to be especially austere. Lawmakers will be tasked with filling a sizable hole in the current state budget before they even begin planning for the next two fiscal years.

Just a few months ago, the Texas economy was growing at rates that outpaced those nationally. Lawmakers last session approved a quarter-trillion-dollar budget, and state income was projected to grow faster than previously expected. The comptroller’s office even estimated that lawmakers would have about $2.9 billion in hand upon their return to session. And that would be an important head start for lawmakers who would need to find new sources of state revenue to support the state’s increased commitment to funding public schools, among other things.

Gov. Greg Abbott announced a strike force in charge of laying steps to reopen the Texas economy in the wake of shutdowns to flatten the curve of the new coronavirus, at a press conference in Austin.

The virus, however, effectively wiped out that $2.9 billion surplus and then some. The choice now is pretty basic: Find new revenue or make significant cuts in basic state services. House Speaker Dennis Bonnen recently suggested that all state agencies cut their budgets by 5% now, rather than wait closer to the start of the next session when budget cuts could be draconian, less strategic and made under greater duress. This echoes Hegar, who has advised agencies to cut spending before lawmakers start deciding what will stay and what will go. (cont)

The Texas legislature meets every two years.

 

[Irish#1]

I used to watch more ESPN, but I don't have time to listen to stupid opinions these days. What happened to the good reporting, the facts, and the highlights?

At least they let Dana Jacobsen go (Fuck Michigan) while Hannah Storm is still there.

I already have an opinion or two. I don't think my brain has enough room for theirs. lol

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

The media members who called Ron DeSantis a murder for opening up the state of Florida should line up, single file, apologize, and tweet the video of their apology.

People rooting for doom, gloom, and shut down of life can all go pound sand.

 

[TorontoGold]

The media members who called Ron DeSantis a murder for opening up the state of Florida should line up, single file, apologize, and tweet the video of their apology.

People rooting for doom, gloom, and shut down of life can all go pound sand.

Florida yesterday reported their highest number of new cases since April 17, and daily deaths haven't decreased in a meaningful way. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

 

[Circa]

The media members who called Ron DeSantis a murder for opening up the state of Florida should line up, single file, apologize, and tweet the video of their apology.

People rooting for doom, gloom, and shut down of life can all go pound sand.

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[Circa]

Florida yesterday reported their highest number of new cases since April 17, and daily deaths haven't decreased in a meaningful way. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

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[Legacy93]

Florida yesterday reported their highest number of new cases since April 17, and daily deaths haven't decreased in a meaningful way. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

The thing to remember about these numbers is that (1) increases in testing means there will be an increase in cases and (2) the increase in deaths is not necessarily indicative of anything happening today or in the last week. There is obviously a time lag from infection until death. Number of deaths today doesn't speak to the reality of today's transmissions, etc.

 

[ab2cmiller]

The thing to remember about these numbers is that (1) increases in testing means there will be an increase in cases and (2) the increase in deaths is not necessarily indicative of anything happening today or in the last week. There is obviously a time lag from infection until death. Number of deaths today doesn't speak to the reality of today's transmissions, etc.

Yup. An increase in cases due to increased testing, may or may not lead to increased deaths. Only time will tell. The day that Toronto was referencing was one of the highest testing dates to date in Florida.

 

[TorontoGold]

Yup. An increase in cases due to increased testing, may or may not lead to increased deaths. Only time will tell. The day that Toronto was referencing was one of the highest testing dates to date in Florida.

Fair enough. I think the true indicator though would be the positivity rate of the tests. If they do x number of tests what rate of those tests conducted came back positive. I haven't looked into it for Florida so I don't know either way, but my original point was it seems awfully early to declare mission accomplished.

 

[Legacy93]

Yup. An increase in cases due to increased testing, may or may not lead to increased deaths. Only time will tell. The day that Toronto was referencing was one of the highest testing dates to date in Florida.

Yep - the number of different ways to present the data around this can drastically change the takeaway. % of positives is probably a better indicator of whether there actually is a spread or not, but even then not all testing is equal depending on whether hot spots are being targeted for testing, etc. And completely agree with you increases in positives may or may not lead to increased deaths.

 

[Legacy93]

Fair enough. I think the true indicator though would be the positivity rate of the tests. If they do x number of tests what rate of those tests conducted came back positive. I haven't looked into it for Florida so I don't know either way, but my original point was it seems awfully early to declare mission accomplished.

https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/#latest-stats

 

[ab2cmiller]

Fair enough. I think the true indicator though would be the positivity rate of the tests. If they do x number of tests what rate of those tests conducted came back positive. I haven't looked into it for Florida so I don't know either way, but my original point was it seems awfully early to declare mission accomplished.

I don't think most people are claiming Florida has beat this thing, including DeSantis. He is just frustrated that people were lampooning him for opening things up and how there was going to be a huge spike of cases and deaths, and it doesn't look like that's happening. I think he's just extra frustrated at the way the national media has portrayed him vs how Cuomo has been treated.

 

[Legacy]

Maybe DeSantis has a better plan for NH patients. I don’t se e why they can’t report whether positives are asymptomatic or not.

As Florida nursing home deaths tick upward, widespread testing stalls
https://www.tampabay.com/news/healt...deaths-tick-upward-widespread-testing-stalls/

 

[ab2cmiller]

Here are percentage positive dating back to when they opened things up on 5/4/20. Average positive rate in the days leading up to the opening was 4.91%. The average since has been 3.49%. On the day with the spike in cases, the positive rate was 2.41%

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1263837538051149826[/TWEET]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1258822847469957122[/TWEET]

 

[TorontoGold]

Here are percentage positive dating back to when they opened things up on 5/4/20. Average positive rate in the days leading up to the opening was 4.91%. The average since has been 3.49%. On the day with the spike in cases, the positive rate was 2.41%

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For May 21, Florida is reporting more than 27,000 test results with roughly 800 positive tests for a statewide positivity rate of 2.92%.<br><br>Positivity rate for original Phase I counties: 2.2% <a href="https://t.co/qs6I9aUryE">pic.twitter.com/qs6I9aUryE</a></p>— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) <a href="https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1263837538051149826?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great news: May 7th represented the best testing day for Florida since the start of the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID19</a> pandemic. Florida received nearly 20,000 test results, which yielded only 358 new Florida cases and the lowest statewide positivity rate – 1.89% - on record for new cases. <a href="https://t.co/XBSH4X1sVp">pic.twitter.com/XBSH4X1sVp</a></p>— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) <a href="https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1258822847469957122?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Thanks for sharing this. That's really good to see for the state.

To your point about Cuomo I agree too, from a lot of the people on the Left i follow on Twitter seem to think hes an absolute dolt too.

 

[Sea Turtle]

My mother in Indianapolis is now in the hospital with it. She's 67 but strong as a horse.

 

[yankeehater]

My mother in Indianapolis is now in the hospital with it. She's 67 but strong as a horse.

Praying for her full and speedy recovery.

 

[Bluto]

I changed it too and it auto’d back damnit!!! Yeah the one in Yucaipa, it’s close enough to Bluto’s stomping Grounds. Seems like every burn out I know took a class there at some point.,. Lol

Dude, Yucaipa? Never even been there. We did play football against Phelan High, which is the most Fast Times at Ridgemont High name for a high school ever. You want to see burnout central go to Trona, it’s like a Mad Max movie out there.

 

[317Irish]

We started this thread and the doubters said the numbers aren’t there- common cold, not even the flu. The numbers grew and the conspiracies began. The numbers unequivocally changed. The doubters changed the story and the conspiracies grew. The wave slowed. The experts warned of waning regulations leading to an eventual rising of cases and deaths. The doubters raise their suspicions again. Will we circle back to the beginning where the argument once again shifts from “will there be?” to “we can’t truly believe” I hope not. Can we take a short-term snapshot of where we are at with a grain of salt folks? Good or bad, we can’t rely on 2 weeks worth of data to justify our predisposed positions on what COVID really is.

 

[Bluto]

The blur that is those three weeks at Crafton Hills Community College,...

I just scrolled back far enough to get the joke. Haha.

Anyhow, I went to Cal Poly SLO jack!

True story. When my guidance counselor (who was also the defensive coordinator) at Tehachapi High found out I got accepted there he stopped me in the hall and was like “how the hell did you do that?”. Lol.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Pretty comical to watch Newsom in California, too. Especially when talking about sports/ entertainment in his state.

It wasn't too long ago he was talking about no sports until 2021. Now he's like ehhhh maybe in June we can bring sports back.