COVID-19

[drayer54]

This was Neanderthal thinking only months ago.

Past Covid infection as protective as vaccination against severe illness and death, study finds

The immunity generated from an infection was found to be “at least as high, if not higher” than that provided by two doses of an mRNA vaccine.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[ulukinatme]

Subscription reminder:

 

[yankeehater]

Or how about this study. If you watched Tik Tok, to see kids blowing vape through the masks or lived in a cold climate and could see your breath penetrating them, you already knew this without the need for a study.

New Research Finds ‘Little to No’ Evidence Masks Effectively Lessened Covid Spread | National Review

The research casts fresh doubts on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s flip-flopping recommendations about the effectiveness of masking.

www.nationalreview.com

 

[irish86]

thecovidblog.com website shows how dangerous the vaccines are.

 

[Blazers46]

This was Neanderthal thinking only months ago.

Past Covid infection as protective as vaccination against severe illness and death, study finds

The immunity generated from an infection was found to be “at least as high, if not higher” than that provided by two doses of an mRNA vaccine.

www.nbcnews.com

The difference between most conspiracy theories and truth is about 6-12 months.

 

[bobbyok1]

The difference between most conspiracy theories and truth is about 6-12 months.

Good thing I resisted the MASSIVE cultural and social pressure to get the clot shot due to intuition opposed to psychotic group think. 😉

 

[sixstar]

Media and government moved the "vaccine efficacy" goalposts several months ago. The EUAs were based on case reduction, but when they could no longer hide that vaxxed people were getting and transmitting COVID, they said that the shots were never designed to stop infection - only to reduce severity of symptoms. But, reduction in symptom severity and protection against death should be noticeable for these miracle products, right? The math here is simple: all things being equal, since COVID was supposedly such a dangerous disease that significantly increased all cause mortality, then we would expect to see those with the vax have lower all cause mortality rates. And since these products are so effective, the impacts would be clear as day.

ONS (the UK's official Office of National Statistics) released their age-stratified all cause mortality dataset.

What does the data say? The opposite.

The graph below shows age-stratified vaccine efficacy vs all cause mortality using vaccinated percentage of all cause mortality vs. percent of vaccinated over time. And keep in mind, this is using ONS' population estimates, which are likely outdated and make the vax cohort look better; UK originally used NIMS population estimates, which painted an even grimmer picture for vax efficacy.



You might be asking yourself why all the numbers are negative. That's likely because adverse effects resulting in heart attacks, strokes, clots, etc. increasing non-COVID deaths. What good does COVID symptom reduction do when the shot causes a heart attack?

Do any of you recall the CDC or FDA publishing all cause mortality numbers? Why didn't they?

If the COVID shots ever provided protection, and if COVID was as deadly as marketed, then you would expect to see that "vaccinated" cohorts would have a lower share of all cause mortality. That... is not the case. Can someone point me to the vax efficacy in any of these graphs?

 

[Sea Turtle]

My cousin died of a heart attack at 47 this past fall not long after getting vaccinated. I donn know if there's a correlation but there are no heart issues in the two families and I'm a bit worried because I've recievd three shots.

 

[sixstar]

So sorry to hear this sea turtle. That's tragic.

 

[PerthDomer]

It's unlikely, but something you'd want reported to VAERS. Studies on flu vaccines and covid vaccines show protection from heart attack mortality vs control that fades as time goes on. Myocarditis risk post vaccine also falls pretty quickly once people get out of their 20's.

Sucks to hear that though, heart disease is awful.

My cousin died of a heart attack at 47 this past fall not long after getting vaccinated. I donn know if there's a correlation but there are no heart issues in the two families and I'm a bit worried because I've recievd three shots.

 

[Sea Turtle]

It's unlikely, but something you'd want reported to VAERS. Studies on flu vaccines and covid vaccines show protection from heart attack mortality vs control that fades as time goes on. Myocarditis risk post vaccine also falls pretty quickly once people get out of their 20's.

Sucks to hear that though, heart disease is awful.

Thanks for the post. It was the widow maker. The doctor said that even if was brought right in, he would have had only a 10% chance of making it.

 

[Sea Turtle]

So sorry to hear this sea turtle. That's tragic.

Thank you.

 

[ulukinatme]

My cousin died of a heart attack at 47 this past fall not long after getting vaccinated. I donn know if there's a correlation but there are no heart issues in the two families and I'm a bit worried because I've recievd three shots.

I'm sorry to hear about your cousin, regardless of the circumstances.

 

[PerthDomer]

Thanks for the post. It was the widow maker. The doctor said that even if was brought right in, he would have had only a 10% chance of making it.

If it was a widow maker the vaccine is very unlikely to have caused it. The myocarditis that gets reported is generally more of a whole heart thing with sudden deaths more commonly from arrhythmias (again, more common with virus caused myocarditis, but theoretically could happen with the vaccine).

When I was on my deployment we had a few 40 something sergeants get treated for big heart attacks. Life is precious and fragile. Hug your family tight, you never know how long you'll have together.

 

[sixstar]

Two-month touch up. Maybe they'll move to daily injectibles soon.

 

[PerthDomer]

Two-month touch up. Maybe they'll move to daily injectibles soon.

If you're super high risk I'd consider getting vaccinated every fee months (70 with numerous comorbidities). They're a public health department, so it's their job to reach those people.

 

[GoIrish41]

My father died of Covid in November … he was anti-vax until the day he died. He was one of a million Americans who perished. Get your shots.

 

[sixstar]

If you're super high risk I'd consider getting vaccinated every fee months (70 with numerous comorbidities). They're a public health department, so it's their job to reach those people.

So what's the end game? 4 shots per year in perpetuity until you die? What does the most recent data say about the absolute risk reduction?

 

[Fbolt]

Conspiracy Realist

 

[bobbyok1]

The only people I know who died from COVID who were not vaccinated were those in the earliest months of Alpha and Delta, the more severe variants, when no one was "vaccinated" and it was not an option. Also this was the time when the medical community was mostly clueless as to treatment and/or tuned out to legitimate therapeutic treatment options that were finding high rates of success. Keep in mind nearly my entire congregation of 100 people or so got COVID during those variants at different times. People of all ages and from both camps, close to 50/50 "vaccinated" and not (once available). None of which died and only a few were hospitalized, yet not close to death.

I know plenty of people in both camps.The only people I know who have died anytime in recent history, past year or more, (almost non-existent), are elderly vaccinated persons. Much like the flu has always taken elderly people whose systems cannot fight off the disease, leading to pneumonia, and death.

Hardly have heard a squeak from anyone I know even having a "bad case of COVID" these days. Would not recommend the clot shot for such mild versions of COVID which has no biological reason to ever grow stronger again without human intervention, see: gain of function.

 

[TorontoGold]

Quite odd indeed, I too, have only known elderly vaccinated people who have died. Hmmmm, conspiracy methinks? Where are all the 30 year olds that should be dying from old age?

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[sixstar]

Makes you wonder why they enforced vax mandates on young people then, doesn't it Toronto?

 

[GoIrish41]

Makes you wonder why they enforced vax mandates on young people then, doesn't it Toronto?

Maybe they didn’t want the virus to spread and cause a million people to die. Crazy logic to believe anyone who is at high risk would ever come into contact with a child. Pfft.

 

[ulukinatme]

Maybe they didn’t want the virus to spread and cause a million people to die. Crazy logic to believe anyone who is at high risk would ever come into contact with a child. Pfft.

If it actually prevented transmission that might be the case, but we now know the jab only reduces symptoms. As such it makes more sense for just the high risk individuals to consider it.

 

[TorontoGold]

Makes you wonder why they enforced vax mandates on young people then, doesn't it Toronto?

Yeah, truly mind-boggling why it would be preferential to have people generally healthier. Idk tho, maybe it could be this super evil blood clot poison developed in a lab by the illuminati to kill everyone.

Of course, myself a free thinker subscribe to numerous "new age" scientists premium works of literature and they all tell me I'm smart for not believing what the science community is telling me. So, I think these people are the ones trying to wake everyone up from the very clear profit motive behind this "vaccine" - all I have to do is pay them each a few bucks to see the work to know who the REAL scammers are. /s

We've already had our discussions here and we're both entrenched. If the vaccine does end up killing me I'll be thankful that I don't have to endure the suffering of spending time with the bottom percentile of genetically challenged who didn't get rinsed by Lord Pfizer.

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[NorthDakota]

Why are people still talking about covid other than complaining about the weird creepy cults that resulted from it?

As in the militantly pro-vax types who insisted everybody get it no matter what even when it had big issues... and the militant anti-vax types who ignored that it probably helped out a lot of people.

I'm just posting to keep me entertained til midnight. I need a summer sausage sandwich bc that's all that I got material for in my fridge and its Lent.

 

[ulukinatme]

Why are people still talking about covid other than complaining about the weird creepy cults that resulted from it?

As in the militantly pro-vax types who insisted everybody get it no matter what even when it had big issues... and the militant anti-vax types who ignored that it probably helped out a lot of people.

I'm just posting to keep me entertained til midnight. I need a summer sausage sandwich bc that's all that I got material for in my fridge and its Lent.

Don't subscribe to the "No Meat on Fridays" during Lent. It doesn't make sense in the West in the 21st Century. Beef and pork were originally a fine delicacy and rare in the Middle East, but fish was obviously a staple which is why it was allowed during the Easter season. These days seafood is the luxury item while beef and pork are the big part of our diet. You're better off just picking something else to give up, like chocolate, pop, etc.

 

[GoIrish41]

If it actually prevented transmission that might be the case, but we now know the jab only reduces symptoms. As such it makes more sense for just the high risk individuals to consider it.

You do know this was a novel virus and they were trying to develop solutions on the fly trying save lives right? It’s easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

 

[ulukinatme]

You do know this was a novel virus and they were trying to develop solutions on the fly trying save lives right? It’s easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

I know that a lot of people lied about it's effectiveness and people's arms were twisted, forcing them to take it when the facts weren't known. Hesitant people were shamed, friendships and families were ruined over those lies. Then when the truth was found out those same people made calls for amnesty for their actions instead of asking for apologies and forgiveness.

 

[GoIrish41]

I know that a lot of people lied about it's effectiveness and people's arms were twisted, forcing them to take it when the facts weren't known. Hesitant people were shamed, friendships and families were ruined over those lies. Then when the truth was found out those same people made calls for amnesty for their actions instead of asking for apologies and forgiveness.

You forgot to mention that a million people died while all this was happening. Kind of a big oversight.