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So who is congress working with to develop plans for a replacement? Are they just doing it themselves or have they hired independent organizations to develop ideas? Because to be honest, these bozos (or the former bozos, for that matter) don't know enough about the complexities of healthcare markets to develop a long term solution.


Compare Proposals to Replace The Affordable Care Act (Kaiser Fam. Found.) (Interactive)

Plans available for comparison:

- The Affordable Care Act, 2010 (PDF)
- Rep. Tom Price’s Empowering Patients First Act, 2015 (PDF)
- House Speaker Paul Ryan’s A Better Way: Our Vision for a More Confident America, 2016 (PDF)
- Sen. Bill Cassidy’s Patient Freedom Act, 2017 (PDF)
- Sen. Rand Paul’s Obamacare Replacement Act, 2017 (PDF)

Click the column header to view available plans to compare. You may compare up to 3 plans.

In six years, they could not agree on a replacement plan, and some Senators wanted no replacement plan. Price is now HHS Sec and his plan difers from Trump's promises.
Boehner has said, when he heard the promises of immediate repeal and replace plans last November:

“I started laughing. Republicans never ever agree on health care.”

The CBO has been analyzing their costs.
 
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We've badly needed a comprehensive immigration bill that addressed our security concerns, providing avenues for citizenship and decreasing the costs of illegal immigration.

We've also needed to fix healthcare with its spiraling costs, incentives for insurance companies to enter only low-risk pools and decreased competition in the marketplace.

You just would have thought that six years of Republican Congresses that they'd have both plans ready to legislate for a seamless transition with a Rep Pres ready to sign whatever gets to his desk.
 
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We've badly needed a comprehensive immigration bill that addressed our security concerns, providing avenues for citizenship and decreasing the costs of illegal immigration.

We've also needed to fix healthcare with its spiraling costs, incentives for insurance companies to enter only low-risk pools and decreased competition in the marketplace.

You just would have thought that six years of Republican Congresses that they'd have both plans ready to legislate for a seamless transition.

Not sure if true, but I heard a report last week that the Republicans never thought Trump was going to win. They had been putting together plans suited to counter Hillary instead. Either way they suck at what they do.
 

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Interesting. I read a different take on the same issue here, which strikes me as the more likely outcome:

He won’t vote for Gorsuch in the final confirmation vote, he stresses, but no one cares about that. That vote requires a simple majority, and obviously all 52 Republicans will vote yes. The big vote, as always in the Senate, is the cloture vote. If Democrats hang together there, as Schumer has been threatening that they will, then the GOP will have to nuke the filibuster. They probably have the votes to do that, but there’s a shred of mystery. And even if it happens, it’s a momentous break with tradition. Supreme Court confirmations will never be the same.

Now here comes one Democrat suggesting that the crisis might be averted. Annnnnnd … it’s not the Democrat whom you’d guess. Holy confirmations, Batman!

The most senior senator, Leahy retains a vision for the chamber as one that promotes bipartisanship and compromise. Leahy has long expressed concern about the politicization of judicial nominees, and he does not support Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s decision to filibuster the Gorsuch nomination, which would effectively block a full Senate vote.

“I am not inclined to filibuster, even though I’m not inclined to vote for him,” Leahy said…

“I do think the end of the filibuster hurts everybody,” Leahy said. “I was very reluctant to see us use the nuclear option, thought I don’t think we would have seen any of President Obama’s judges go through without it.”…

“If politics continues to pervade judicial nominations, Americans will lose faith in the judiciary,” Leahy said. “They have already lost faith in the presidency and the Congress, there’s not much trust left in government.”

Leahy’s spokesman rushed to say afterward that he hasn’t taken a definitive position on cloture yet, but the senator’s hesitation is a strong nudge to junior Democrats to ignore Schumer and go their own way on filibustering Gorsuch. Leahy’s been in the chamber for more than 40 years (elected when he was all of 35 years old) and, unlike most of the other gettable Democrats on cloture, he comes from a deep blue state. In theory, the left could punish him for crossing them on Gorsuch by primarying him, but (a) he doesn’t face voters again until 2022, (b) at 76 years old, it’s an open question if he’ll run again, and (c) Leahy is such an institution in Vermont that he typically wins his primaries with upwards of 90 percent of the vote. He’s probably primary-proof. And if he opts to vote yes on cloture, that means suddenly all sorts of red-state Democrats will have cover from an elder statesman on the left in defying Schumer. By Politico’s count, there are a quite a few of them out there, too:

Beyond Manchin, Kaine and Tester, at least 10 other Democrats have yet to weigh in on a potential filibuster of Gorsuch. Sens. Michael Bennet of Colorado, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, Angus King (I-Maine), Claire McCaskill of Missouri, and Mark Warner of Virginia declined to answer questions about the nominee on Thursday.

Also considered potential gets for the Gorsuch nomination, at least on opposing a filibuster, are Democratic Sens. Chris Coons of Delaware, a member of the Judiciary Committee; Sen. Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, who met with the nominee last month; and three others who face reelection battles next year: Sens. Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Bill Nelson of Florida and Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota.

If Leahy is a yes on cloture, all McConnell needs is seven of those remaining 13 to get this done. Easily doable, especially with a senior senator like Leahy blazing the trail.

A not-so-crazy conspiracy theory for you: What if Schumer put Leahy up to this? No minority leader likes to see his authority undermined, but Schumer’s in a terrible bind here. If he doesn’t show the left that he’s willing to avenge Merrick Garland by using every obstructionist trick at his disposal, progressives will scapegoat him and turn him into a lightning rod for their anger over Trump. In fact, they already have. If, on the other hand, the caucus follows his lead and successfully filibusters Gorsuch, it’ll be a fiasco — McConnell will nuke it, Gorsuch will be confirmed anyway, and the left will have lost their last bit of procedural leverage over an eventual Trump nominee for Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s or Stephen Breyer’s seat. A filibuster now would be the purest strategic idiocy and Schumer knows it. Solution, then: Endorse the filibuster in his role as minority leader while nudging Leahy, a Senate institution and Judiciary Committee veteran who almost certainly can’t be defeated in Vermont, to lead the rebellion instead. Now, when Manchin and Bennet and McCaskill et al. need to justify their votes in favor of cloture, they can point to Leahy and say, “Sen. Leahy’s judgment carries such heavy weight with me, especially in terms of getting politics out of judicial nominations, that I feel obliged to join him in this vote.” Leahy then becomes the lightning rod. But so what? He’s immune from this sort of political lightning. He’ll be just fine, and so will all of the red-state Dems who vote for cloture along with him once the left realizes that they’re in no positional electorally to further weaken their chances in 2018 by primarying any of them over their Gorsuch votes.
 

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CBO's Fiscal forecast per changes, Jan 2017

CBO's Fiscal forecast per changes, Jan 2017

The Budget and Economic Outlook: 2017 to 2027
In fiscal year 2016, for the first time since 2009, the federal budget deficit increased in relation to the nation’s economic output. CBO projects that over the next decade, if current laws remained generally unchanged, budget deficits would eventually follow an upward trajectory—the result of strong growth in spending for retirement and health care programs targeted to older people and rising interest payments on the government’s debt, accompanied by only modest growth in revenue collections. Those accumulating deficits would drive debt held by the public from its already high level up to its highest percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) since shortly after World War II.

CBO’s estimate of the deficit for 2017 has decreased since August 2016, when the agency issued its previous estimates, primarily because mandatory spending is expected to be lower than earlier anticipated. However, the current projection for the cumulative deficit for the 2017–2026 period is about the same as that reported in August.

CBO’s economic forecast—which underlies its budget projections—indicates that under current law, economic growth over the next two years would remain close to the modest rate observed since the end of the recession in 2009. Nevertheless, economic growth would continue to outpace growth in potential (maximum sustainable) GDP and thus continue to reduce the amount of underused resources, or slack, in the economy. The result would be increases in hiring, employment, and wages, along with upward pressure on inflation and interest rates. In the later part of the 10-year projection period, output growth would be constrained by a relatively slow increase in the nation’s supply of labor...

CBO’s budget and economic projections are predicated on the assumption that current laws generally remain in place.
Budgetary and economic outcomes are difficult to project, however, and thus rather uncertain—even if there are no changes to the laws that govern federal taxes and spending. The agency strives to construct 10-year budget and economic projections that fall in the middle of the distribution of possible outcomes, given both the fiscal policy embodied in current law and the availability of economic and other data....
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The Budget Battles to Come: (National Review)

If Trump thought his first few months were tough, he’s in for a rude awakening: The next few will be even tougher. Don’t look now, but the next big legislative battles of the Trump presidency may be just a few weeks away. Republicans must pass a budget by April 28 to avoid a partial government shutdown. Yet, as was the case during the recent failed effort to repeal and replace Obamacare, Democrats are united in opposition while Republicans are badly split. The looming battle doesn’t concern the 2018 budget that President Trump purported to unveil a few weeks ago, which will spark a fight of its own down the road. Rather, it concerns budget business left over from last year when, unable to pass budget bills, a lame-duck Congress kicked the can down the road, passing a continuing resolution to fund the government through the end of this month. The time on that CR is now almost up, and Republicans are planning to offer an omnibus budget bill to fund the government for the rest of the year. To further complicate measures, this massive omnibus will likely be offered as an amendment to the 2017 defense-appropriations bill....

U.S. Debt Clock
State Debt clocks linked, e.g. Alabama

GOP Platform on Federal Debt
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National Debt

Obama recklessly pushed Congress to raise the debt ceiling without enacting spending cuts. The current Administration refuses to push for debt-reducing policies despite our unsustainable financial situation. Republicans believe that reducing the multi-trillion dollar debt is imperative for the well-being of this country. We should leave the next generation opportunity, not debt. The Republican Party does not support any further increases in the debt ceiling unless Congress enacts cuts and reforms within the federal government. If American citizens are expected to control their personal debt spending, the American government must lead by example.
 
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Senate panel advances reg reform bills (The Hill)

A Senate panel advanced a half dozen regulatory reform bills Wednesday, including the Midnight Rules Relief Act.
The Midnight Rules Relief Act sponsored by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) would make it easier for lawmakers to strike down multiple regulations at the same time.

This would replace the Congressional Review Act.

The panel's action comes as Republicans turn their sights to longer-lasting regulatory reforms, having mostly finished using the Congressional Review Act (CRA) to target specific Obama-era rules....The act allows lawmakers to bypass Senate rules and overturn regulations with a simple majority. However, Congress must vote on each rule individually.

The bipartisan Regulatory Accountability Act is sponsored by Sens. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), and requires federal regulators to issue the most “cost-effective” rules.

The Regulations from the Executive in Need of Scrutiny (REINS) Act sponsored by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), though, has proven to be one of the most divisive regulatory reform bills.

The REINS Act would essentially give Congress more power to reject regulations. Federal agencies would be required to seek approval before issuing major rules.

Is the REINS Act even constitutional, effectively giving Congress veto authority over some Executive branch powers? It's been introduced each session since 2011.

Why the REINS Act Is Unconstitutional


QUESTIONING THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE REINS ACT: BILL SEEKS TO RESTRUCTURE FEDERAL RULEMAKING PROCESS

REINS Act Will Check Executive Overreach, Restore Constitutional Balance
 
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White House plans to push House GOP for friendlier Russia sanctions deal (Politico, 4 days ago)

The White House plans to work with House Republicans on administration-friendly changes to the Senate’s overwhelmingly bipartisan bill that slaps new sanctions on Russia and curbs President Donald Trump’s power to ease penalties against Moscow, according to a senior administration official.


The Senate’s Russia sanctions agreement, crafted by senior members of both parties, would impose new penalties on Moscow’s defense, military intelligence, and energy sectors, among others. The deal also would convert existing sanctions into law, potentially complicating any removal by the White House, and allow Congress to block Trump from easing or ending sanctions with a two-thirds majority vote.

Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) predicted earlier this week that Trump would not veto any sanctions package that reached his desk. Hailing the Senate deal’s impact after its passage, Corker tweeted that the Russia measure “marks a significant shift of power back to the people’s representatives, a priority of mine since becoming the lead Republican on” his committee.

House Republicans block Russia sanctions bill (The Hill, today)

A bill that slaps new sanctions on Russia, and passed the Senate almost unanimously, has hit a major stumbling block in the House.

Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Texas) said the legislation has been flagged by the House parliamentarian as a "blue slip" violation, referring to the constitutional requirement that revenue bills originate in the House.

"The House obviously will act to preserve the Constitution. Or the Senate can take the bill back, make the updates to it, and bring it back and move forward from that direction," Brady told reporters on Tuesday.

The development marks a major setback after the Senate overwhelmingly passed the legislation, which also includes new sanctions against Iran, last week in a 98-2 vote.
Brady, the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, pushed back against suggestions that House GOP leadership is trying to delay the bill, stressing that he thought the Senate legislation was "sound policy."

Congressional leaders were notified in January by State Dept employees that the new Admin's State appointees were exploring how the President could ease sanctions on Russia without approval by Congress.

How the Trump administration’s secret efforts to ease Russia sanctions fell short (Yahoo News, June 1)

In the early weeks of the Trump administration, former Obama administration officials and State Department staffers fought an intense, behind-the-scenes battle to head off efforts by incoming officials to normalize relations with Russia, according to multiple sources familiar with the events.

Unknown to the public at the time, top Trump administration officials, almost as soon as they took office, tasked State Department staffers with developing proposals for the lifting of economic sanctions, the return of diplomatic compounds and other steps to relieve tensions with Moscow.
 
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GOP Lawmaker Loses $17 Million After Favorite Pharma Stock Plunges (Bloomberg)

Representative Chris Collins
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Representative Collins has an estimated net worth of $65.9M as of 2014, making him one of the wealthiest members of Congress and the richest among all members from New York.

Collins' net worth was 63 times more than the average member of Congress and 79 times more than the average representative. When compared to the New York Congressional Delegation, Collins had a net worth that was 249 times more than the average.

Report: Congressional Ethics Office Probing Rep. Chris Collins’ Aussie Investment (Kaiser Family News)
 
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Collins' rejection of the Senate health care bill is founded on her comprehension of her state's health care priorities and its potential impact on her constituents. You need only check out Maine's population coverage or read local newspaper coverage of the issue.

Ignoring that and blanket criticisms of moderate Reps relegates the Party to a minority mentality that stalls positive changes that address Americans' real concerns.
 
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Collins' rejection of the Senate health care bill is founded on her comprehension of her state's health care priorities and its potential impact on her constituents. You need only check out Maine's population coverage or read local newspaper coverage of the issue.

Ignoring that and blanket criticisms of moderate Reps relegates the Party to a minority mentality that stalls positive changes that address Americans' real concerns.

It probably has as much to do about her reelection and timing than anything else.
 

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It probably has as much to do about her reelection and timing than anything else.

You read her statements in the CNN article?

"If the President wants to have a meeting with me I'm certainly willing to go and listen what he has to say," she said. "I will say that I have so many fundamental problems with the bill that have been confirmed by the CBO report that it's difficult for me to see how any tinkering is going to satisfy my fundamental and deep concerns about the impact of the bill."
After the Congressional Budget Office released its score of the bill yesterday, which predicted that 22 million people will lose coverage if the Senate bill becomes law, Collins tweeted her opposition.

I want to work w/ my GOP & Dem colleagues to fix the flaws in ACA. CBO analysis shows Senate bill won't do it. I will vote no on mtp. 1/3
4:50 PM - 26 Jun 2017
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Or perhaps you are familiar with the Obamacare Replacement Plan she introduced in January?

Cassidy, Collins Introduce Comprehensive Obamacare Replacement Plan
In: Press Releases
Posted Mon, 01/23/2017 - 13:06

At the risk of duplicating your efforts to locate local Maine news on the issue:
Collins, King won’t support Senate bill to replace Obamacare (Bangor Daily News)
 

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She's been anti Trump since the beginning, and hasn't tried to hide it. It's not just the HC topic.

IMO, it's as much as her trying to keep her job in a Lib state than anything else.

The below is from the Boston Globe. I really don't have a beef with them. They are a lefty pub, but not a horrible one. If they are calling her out (anti trump), you can bank she simply hates the dude.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/06/27/why-susan-collins-won-vote-yes-healthcare-even-after-delay/GlaG74M12Ot3nstGMxhlUK/story.html

Opposing the bill is smart is she wants to stay in the Senate

For Collins and other Republicans in most New England states, there is an important dynamic at play: whether their reelection comes in a midterm year when it is easier for Republicans to win, or in a presidential year where they have to win despite a Democratic presidential candidate likely winning their state on the same day.

Collins is up for reelection in 2020, a presidential year. While Trump did pick off an electoral vote in that state’s Second Congressional District last year, Democrat Hillary Clinton won the state overall. That’s not good news, even for a moderate like Collins.

Even if Collins has any thought about voting yes to a bill this unpopular, she must know it will figure prominently in her reelection campaign, and that can’t sit well. Besides, Collins has already parted with her party’s Republican base. When she announced she would not vote for Trump in the general election, Maine Governor Paul LePage, a fellow Republican, said “I am not a Susan Collins fan.”

You read her statements in the CNN article?



Or perhaps you are familiar with the Obamacare Replacement Plan she introduced in January?

Cassidy, Collins Introduce Comprehensive Obamacare Replacement Plan
In: Press Releases
Posted Mon, 01/23/2017 - 13:06

At the risk of duplicating your efforts to locate local Maine news on the issue:
Collins, King won’t support Senate bill to replace Obamacare (Bangor Daily News)
 

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She's been anti Trump since the beginning, and hasn't tried to hide it. It's not just the HC topic.

IMO, it's as much as her trying to keep her job in a Lib state than anything else.

The below is from the Boston Globe. I really don't have a beef with them. They are a lefty pub, but not a horrible one. If they are calling her out (anti trump), you can bank she simply hates the dude.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/06/27/why-susan-collins-won-vote-yes-healthcare-even-after-delay/GlaG74M12Ot3nstGMxhlUK/story.html

I posted her Obamacare Replacement Plan Bill, but have the feeling you did not read it, nor do you care to. I urge you again to read local Maine papers to get a feeling for her constituents' feeling about the bad HC bill. But you probably would prefer to reinforce an "anti-Trump" labeling, despite her linked statements.

If you did any superficial research on how the Maine citizens would be affected, you would know that 118,000 Mainers would lose their health insurance, including many self-employed workers, lobstermen, and blueberry farmers, and that the Maine Hospital Association estimates hospitals would lose $62 million per year and that older Mainers pre-65 would be hard hit.

But I'll post another link. Health insurance costs are surging in Maine
The combination of the Affordable Care Act and Maine’s older population will push coverage rates to unprecedented highs.


Maine’s health insurance rates already rank among the highest in the nation, in part because of the state’s relatively sparse population and high percentage of elderly residents. They are also affected by national trends, including rising prescription prices and treatment costs.

The sharp increases in health insurance rates for 2017, a national trend as insurers adjust their cost projections following the Affordable Care Act’s first year of full implementation, will only exacerbate Maine’s affordability problem.

Small businesses are expected to suffer the biggest impact, because they don’t have the same access to federal tax breaks and other subsidies that residents covered by individual health plans can use to offset their insurance costs.

So, if Collins says "If the President wants to have a meeting with me I'm certainly willing to go and listen what he has to say. I will say that I have so many fundamental problems with the bill that have been confirmed by the CBO report that it's difficult for me to see how any tinkering is going to satisfy my fundamental and deep concerns about the impact of the bill.", that not only reflects her personal opinion but that of her constituents.

You should also do some superficial research on Maine Governor Paul LePage and his showdown with the legislature and how he is bucking the state's Republican legislators.
 

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I posted her Obamacare Replacement Plan Bill, but have the feeling you did not read it, nor do you care to. I urge you again to read local Maine papers to get a feeling for her constituents' feeling about the bad HC bill. But you probably would prefer to reinforce an "anti-Trump" labeling, despite her linked statements.

If you did any superficial research on how the Maine citizens would be affected, you would know that 118,000 Mainers would lose their health insurance, including many self-employed workers, lobstermen, and blueberry farmers, and that the Maine Hospital Association estimates hospitals would lose $62 million per year and that older Mainers pre-65 would be hard hit.

But I'll post another link. Health insurance costs are surging in Maine
The combination of the Affordable Care Act and Maine’s older population will push coverage rates to unprecedented highs.




So, if Collins says "If the President wants to have a meeting with me I'm certainly willing to go and listen what he has to say. I will say that I have so many fundamental problems with the bill that have been confirmed by the CBO report that it's difficult for me to see how any tinkering is going to satisfy my fundamental and deep concerns about the impact of the bill.", that not only reflects her personal opinion but that of her constituents.

You should also do some superficial research on Maine Governor Paul LePage and his showdown with the legislature and how he is bucking the state's Republican legislators.

In short, you linked a puff piece on her own website. I did skim it. There was not a lot of specific how-they-gonna-do-it. The big takeaway is that it allowed to keep the existing Obama Care if they wanted. Is that correct. If so, how does that solve the existing issues with OCare? Not sure I read it right the other day, but that's what I thought I saw. I laughed when I read that she said that doing nothing was not an option. But that's what she is doing.

Honestly, I don't need to be an expert on Maine or Collins. I have nothing personally against Collins. What I do know about Collins is she's almost a lib in red. But I guess that is what it takes to be a Senator in NE. Also, I'm pretty sure Maine has higher than average State/local tax, is also not fiscally in great shape, and is pretty high ranking in Federal spending per capita. In short, finding themselves in similar situations like Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey, etc.... other blue states. I think LePage, although unpopular in Maine, has them on the right fiscal track. Will he last? Maybe, if the INDs keep splitting the vote.

So educate me. Or give me your opinion. What specifically makes her plan better than Trump's plan, and how does it fix the issues with OCare?
 

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Honestly, I don't need to be an expert on Maine or Collins. I have nothing personally against Collins. What I do know about Collins is she's almost a lib in red. But I guess that is what it takes to be a Senator in NE. Also, I'm pretty sure Maine has higher than average State/local tax, is also not fiscally in great shape, and is pretty high ranking in Federal spending per capita. In short, finding themselves in similar situations like Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey, etc.... other blue states. I think LePage, although unpopular in Maine, has them on the right fiscal track. Will he last? Maybe, if the INDs keep splitting the vote.

So educate me. Or give me your opinion. What specifically makes her plan better than Trump's plan, and how does it fix the issues with OCare?

If "almost a lib in red" means a moderate Rep, I agree with such a simplification.

If her stance on HC "probably has as much to do about her reelection and timing than anything else", I agree it represents the views of her constituents, but her reelection is in 2020.

As for "She's been anti Trump since the beginning", her words speak for themselves:

I will not be voting for Donald Trump for president. This is not a decision I make lightly, for I am a lifelong Republican. But Donald Trump does not reflect historical Republican values nor the inclusive approach to governing that is critical to healing the divisions in our country.

When the primary season started, it soon became apparent that, much like Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Mr. Trump was connecting with many Americans who felt that their voices were not being heard in Washington and who were tired of political correctness.
But rejecting the conventions of political correctness is different from showing complete disregard for common decency. Mr. Trump did not stop with shedding the stilted campaign dialogue that often frustrates voters. Instead, he opted for a constant stream of denigrating comments, including demeaning Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) heroic military service and repeatedly insulting Fox News host Megyn Kelly.

With the passage of time, I have become increasingly dismayed by his constant stream of cruel comments and his inability to admit error or apologize. But it was his attacks directed at people who could not respond on an equal footing — either because they do not share his power or stature or because professional responsibility precluded them from engaging at such a level — that revealed Mr. Trump as unworthy of being our president.

My conclusion about Mr. Trump’s unsuitability for office is based on his disregard for the precept of treating others with respect, an idea that should transcend politics. Instead, he opts to mock the vulnerable and inflame prejudices by attacking ethnic and religious minorities. Three incidents in particular have led me to the inescapable conclusion that Mr. Trump lacks the temperament, self-discipline and judgment required to be president.
disregard for the precept of treating others with respect, an idea that should transcend politics. Instead, he opts to mock the vulnerable and inflame prejudices by attacking ethnic and religious minorities. Three incidents in particular have led me to the inescapable conclusion that Mr. Trump lacks the temperament, self-discipline and judgment required to be president.

The first was his mocking of a reporter with disabilities, a shocking display that did not receive the scrutiny it deserved. I kept expecting Mr. Trump to apologize, at least privately, but he did not, instead denying that he had done what seemed undeniable to anyone who watched the video. At the time, I hoped that this was a terrible lapse, not a pattern of abuse.

The second was Mr. Trump’s repeated insistence that Gonzalo Curiel, a federal judge born and raised in Indiana, could not rule fairly in a case involving Trump University because of his Mexican heritage. For Mr. Trump to insist that Judge Curiel would be biased because of his ethnicity demonstrated a profound lack of respect not only for the judge but also for our constitutional separation of powers, the very foundation of our form of government. Again, I waited in vain for Mr. Trump to retract his words.

Third was Donald Trump’s criticism of the grieving parents of Army Capt. Humayun Khan, who was killed in Iraq. It is inconceivable that anyone, much less a presidential candidate, would attack two Gold Star parents. Rather than honoring their sacrifice and recognizing their pain, Mr. Trump disparaged the religion of the family of an American hero. And once again, he proved incapable of apologizing, of saying he was wrong.

I am also deeply concerned that Mr. Trump’s lack of self-restraint and his barrage of ill-informed comments would make an already perilous world even more so. It is reckless for a presidential candidate to publicly raise doubts about honoring treaty commitments with our allies. Mr. Trump’s tendency to lash out when challenged further escalates the possibility of disputes spinning dangerously out of control.

I had hoped that we would see a “new” Donald Trump as a general-election candidate — one who would focus on jobs and the economy, tone down his rhetoric, develop more thoughtful policies and, yes, apologize for ill-tempered rants. But the unpleasant reality that I have had to accept is that there will be no “new” Donald Trump, just the same candidate who will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat. Regrettably, his essential character appears to be fixed, and he seems incapable of change or growth.

At the same time, I realize that Mr. Trump’s success reflects profound discontent in this country, particularly among those who feel left behind by an unbalanced economy and who wonder whether their children will have a better life than their parents. As we have seen with the dissatisfaction with both major- party nominees — neither of whom I support — these passions are real and the public will demand action.

Some will say that as a Republican I have an obligation to support my party’s nominee. I have thought long and hard about that, for being a Republican is part of what defines me as a person. I revere the history of my party, most particularly the value it has always placed on the worth and dignity of the individual, and I will continue to work across the country for Republican candidates. It is because of Mr. Trump’s inability and unwillingness to honor that legacy that I am unable to support his candidacy.
from: Opinions - GOP senator Susan Collins: Why I cannot support Trump

Of course, Collins was only one of quite a number of Republicans and conservatives who did not support Trump, and one of twelve current (10) and sitting (2 at the time of the election) Rep Senators who did not support Trump.
List of Republicans who opposed the Donald Trump presidential campaign, 2016
 
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Because the Dems are so eager to work with him, or any of the folks across the aisle....

Can someone just say neither side wants to work with the other. This is not a mystery about Trump. But it is CNN...

Susan Collins: Trump doesn't know how to work with Congress - CNNPolitics.com

First, let me make it clear that I am not supporting Trump, but after reading this article, I chuckled. She states how Trump is the first POTUS that has no political or military experience and doesn't know how to work with congress.

Thoughts:
1. Since you know and realize that, why not try working with him more closely so things don't get bogged down.
2. Trump was elected POTUS because America is tired of the same old shit. Maybe the ways of Congress are the real problem and need to be changed!

I have a guy that works for me that I've mentioned before. He loves to bash the users and constantly complains about them, yet I never hear him take the time to work with them and educate them on how to avoid problems. It's a two way street.
 

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Honestly, I don't need to be an expert on Maine or Collins. I have nothing personally against Collins. What I do know about Collins is she's almost a lib in red. But I guess that is what it takes to be a Senator in NE. Also, I'm pretty sure Maine has higher than average State/local tax, is also not fiscally in great shape, and is pretty high ranking in Federal spending per capita. In short, finding themselves in similar situations like Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey, etc.... other blue states. I think LePage, although unpopular in Maine, has them on the right fiscal track. Will he last? Maybe, if the INDs keep splitting the vote.

LePage is a nut job.
An opinion piece: Bill Nemitz: LePage drives Maine toward irrational day of reckoning:
The governor appears to relish the idea of a government shutdown for its own sake, regardless of the harm it would do to his constituents. (Portland Press Herald)


America's Craziest Governor Goes Off the Rails: Is Paul LePage overplaying his hand or no longer playing with a full deck?
(Politico)
One month later LePage— a pugnacious, hot-headed, sometimes vulgar Tea Party-style conservative—is facing a bipartisan investigation into potential abuse of power, a nascent impeachment effort by opponents in the lower State House chamber, and a federal lawsuit by the outgoing Democratic House speaker, who has accused the governor of blackmailing a non-profit school into revoking their job offer to him. Meanwhile, leaders of the Republican-controlled state Senate and many Republicans in the House have turned on the governor, helping overturn hundreds of his vetoes and line-item vetoes in lightning-paced voting sessions, sometimes at a rate of one every 25 seconds. His veto of the bipartisan budget was overturned, narrowly avoiding a state government shutdown. An aggressive attempt to appropriate wider veto authority for his office has been rebuffed by lawmakers and legal experts, but still threatens to plunge the state into a constitutional crisis.

PAUL LEPAGE'S GREATEST HITS
A collection of our favorite quips, gripes and ruminations from Maine’s most quotable governor.
(A couple: "You shoot at the enemy. You try to identify the enemy and the enemy right now, the overwhelming majority of people coming in, are people of color or people of Hispanic origin." and "I don't care if it's my bills. I'll veto my own bills.")

LePage refuses to sign a budget deal unless it has what he wants, no compromise, so Maine is headed for a state government shutdown. ("A shutdown is necessary for the future of Maine") He will keep state parks open, but is now being sued to protect the most vulnerable of Mainers.
Lawsuit filed to force LePage to pay benefits to poor Mainers in a shutdown (Bangor Daily News)

However, as far as health care, LePage, as a number of other governors, recently went to Washington to advocate against the Senate HC bill and meet with Collins and Sen Angus King to convey that message. Paul LePage says GOP health care bill doesn't go far enough (Maine Sun Jornal)
(BTW-53% of Mainers have pre-existing conditions.)
 
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An Update to the Budget and Economic Outlook: 2017 to 2027
June 29, 2017
(Congressional Budget Office)

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CBO projects that over the next decade, if current laws remained generally unchanged, budget deficits would eventually follow an upward trajectory in relation to the nation’s economic output, and federal debt would rise. Economic growth is projected to remain modest, averaging slightly above 2.0 percent through 2018 and averaging somewhat below that rate for the rest of the period through 2027. The budgetary and economic trends discussed in this report are similar to those CBO described in January, when the agency issued its previous estimates.
Budget Deficits Are Projected to Rise Over the Next Decade
The projected rise in deficits would be the result of rapid growth in spending for federal retirement and health care programs targeted to older people and to rising interest payments on the government’s debt, accompanied by only moderate growth in revenue collections. Those accumulating deficits would drive up debt held by the public from its already high level to its highest percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) since shortly after World War II.

Options for Reducing the Deficit: 2017 to 2026 (CBO)
The Congress faces an array of policy choices as it confronts the challenges posed by the amount of federal debt held by the public—which has more than doubled relative to the size of the economy since 2007—and the prospect of continued growth in that debt over the coming decades if the large annual budget deficits projected under current law come to pass. To help inform lawmakers, CBO periodically issues a compendium of policy options that would help to reduce the deficit. This edition reports the estimated budgetary effects of various options and highlights some of the advantages and disadvantages of those options.
This volume presents 115 options that would decrease federal spending or increase federal revenues over the next decade. The options included in this volume come from various sources. Some are based on proposed legislation or on the budget proposals of various Administrations; others come from Congressional offices or from entities in the federal government or in the private sector. The options cover many areas—ranging from defense to energy, Social Security, and provisions of the tax code. The budgetary effects identified for most of the options span the 10 years from 2017 to 2026 (the period covered by CBO’s March 2016 baseline budget projections), although many of the options would have longer-term effects as well.

The first 10 recommendations in the Discretionary Spending category relate to military/defense.
 
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Kid Rock is running for Senate. That's an actual thing that's happening.
 

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Kid Rock is running for Senate. That's an actual thing that's happening.

It's ridiculous. First senator with a sex tape?

What does it say about our democracy that there are now no prerequisites for running for office? Guys with Ivy League educations, political science expertise, governing experience, ect will be getting beat by rappers, tv personalities and selfie takers on the regular now in the name of "burning down the establishment". Unfortunately the fire is gonna be too close to the drapes of our democracy and truly burn the worlds greatest democracy to the ground.

Is this how Rome fell?
 

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Porn star Mary Carey ran for governor of California as a joke, and finished in the top 7% of all candidates:

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