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[Jiggafini19Deux]

The whole thing is a disaster. Saturday as an interim? It will be interesting to see what they say at the presser tonight, is this just a placeholder thing, or a tryout? The BEST move irsay could make is Harbaugh, but I somehow doubt he goes with the slam dunk… guy is too coked up to even know what decision to make…

Yeah, that Jeff Saturday hiring probably has Brian Flores' lawyers doing happy dances at the firm. JFC.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Unless I read it wrong, Saturday is the “interim” until a permanent HC is hired, correct? Sounds like he’s a placeholder to me doing a favor for his former owner. Irsay looked to be a in a no-win situation. If he names a black guy the interim, he catches shit b/c the guy gets replaced at season’s end (barring an miracle)…especially if the permanent HC ends up being a white guy. And, of course; he‘s catching shit for naming Saturday.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Unless I read it wrong, Saturday is the “interim” until a permanent HC is hired, correct? Sounds like he’s a placeholder to me doing a favor for his former owner. Irsay looked to be a in a no-win situation. If he names a black guy the interim, he catches shit b/c the guy gets replaced at season’s end (barring an miracle)…especially if the permanent HC ends up being a white guy. And, of course; he‘s catching shit for naming Saturday.

Jeff Saturday's coaching experience is a record of 20-16 in three years at Hebron Christian Academy. They should be catching shit. It makes little to no sense naming an interim who was pulled off of the street when they have Gus Bradley and John Fox already there. They're tanking, and Saturday was a popular player so it's a PR move.

They have to reopen the job at the end of the year regardless. If I'm a Colts fan, I'd probably not be looking to have this guy as the permanent HC going forward. He's a former player and ESPN analyst.

Regardless of the Rooney Rule, which doesn't even apply to interim coaches during the season, hiring Jeff Saturday is weird and it's definitely an eyebrow raiser when it comes to the way this League hires coaches from top to bottom.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

“First, I will say things like this are going to come up when you have team success and when you do your job and things go the way they’re supposed to go. That’s a credit really to our team,” Lanning said Monday. “That being said, I think there’s a little bit of a problem in society today with people looking for what’s next and where there’s an opportunity and the reality is the grass is not always green. In fact, the grass is damn green in Eugene.”

Lanning added that Oregon “has everything that I could possibly ever want, my family could ever want. I’ve got an 11-year-old that’s lived in eight states. The last thing I ever want to do is leave. I want to enjoy this opportunity here. It’s been a phenomenal place for us, and when you talk about things that align, things that match your vision for what you’re looking for as a head coach, Oregon checks every box for me.”

Dan Lanning re: Auburn opening and rumors.

 

[NDohio]

Dan Lanning re: Auburn opening and rumors.

He gone!

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I guess WVU is going to give Neal Brown a chance to get OU back on track?

Struggling Big 12 team? WVU is just what the doctor ordered.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Jeff Saturday's coaching experience is a record of 20-16 in three years at Hebron Christian Academy. They should be catching shit. It makes little to no sense naming an interim who was pulled off of the street when they have Gus Bradley and John Fox already there. They're tanking, and Saturday was a popular player so it's a PR move.

They have to reopen the job at the end of the year regardless. If I'm a Colts fan, I'd probably not be looking to have this guy as the permanent HC going forward. He's a former player and ESPN analyst.

Regardless of the Rooney Rule, which doesn't even apply to interim coaches during the season, hiring Jeff Saturday is weird and it's definitely an eyebrow raiser when it comes to the way this League hires coaches from top to bottom.

Right it should raise eyebrows based on his lack of experience. What I would want to know is, was he immediately named w/o consideration for anyone else? Were guys like Bradley & Fox or anyone else asked about their interest? Until all facts are known, I think it’s hard to jump to conclusions of how it went down. Like I mentioned initially, I only read that Saturday was named the “interim”. Full stop. If the details I mentioned above have been reported & those guys (or any other guys) weren’t asked or considered, then I agree.

All that said, I also think the knee jerk reaction is to think “Irsay is batshit crazy so there’s zero doubt he just tabbed Saturday for no logical reason whatsoever”. I get that but that goes back to how these self-appointed “monarchs” are allowed to be owners in the first place. But people love the NFL…so enjoy.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Right it should raise eyebrows based on his lack of experience. What I would want to know is, was he immediately named w/o consideration for anyone else? Were guys like Bradley & Fox or anyone else asked about their interest? Until all facts are known, I think it’s hard to jump to conclusions of how it went down. Like I mentioned initially, I only read that Saturday was named the “interim”. Full stop. If the details I mentioned above have been reported & those guys (or any other guys) weren’t asked or considered, then I agree.

All that said, I also think the knee jerk reaction is to think “Irsay is batshit crazy so there’s zero doubt he just tabbed Saturday for no logical reason whatsoever”. I get that but that goes back to how these self-appointed “monarchs” are allowed to be owners in the first place. But people love the NFL…so enjoy.

It all just seems rather odd. They're practically pulling Saturday off of the street. For all the talk of nepotism, it seems strange this is the direction they've chosen, even on an interim basis. It does lend itself to those who feel that there is hiring inequity in both college and pro football for candidates to get a fair shot at jobs, minority or otherwise.

I'm probably cynical in saying that logic doesn't often apply in these situations and these hires are made with little to no due dilligence.

 

[dublinirish]

Dan Lanning re: Auburn opening and rumors.

everytime i hear of a coach go on about how they love their current school/job i think of this great Dwight talking head

 

[IRISHDODGER]

It all just seems rather odd. They're practically pulling Saturday off of the street. For all the talk of nepotism, it seems strange this is the direction they've chosen, even on an interim basis. It does lend itself to those who feel that there is hiring inequity in both college and pro football for candidates to get a fair shot at jobs, minority or otherwise.

I'm probably cynical in saying that logic doesn't often apply in these situations and these hires are made with little to no due dilligence.

I definitely agree with the odd look of it. It’d be nice to hear Irsay’s explanation. Can you think of any other instances where this happened in the NFL?

The NBA has hired tons of HC w/ no HC experience: Larry Bird, Isaiah Thomas, Jason Kidd, Doc Rivers, Mark Jackson, Steve Nash, etc. MLB has done it, too. Most recently w/ the Cubs hiring David Ross.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

I'm not a Colts fan, but I can kind of justify by it's safe for Indy. He'll never get the head coaching job. If, by some chance, he turns this team around, they won't hire him. If they give the OC or DC the interim title, there will be pressure in the off chance they win a few games.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I definitely agree with the odd look of it. It’d be nice to hear Irsay’s explanation. Can you think of any other instances where this happened in the NFL?

The NBA has hired tons of HC w/ no HC experience: Larry Bird, Isaiah Thomas, Jason Kidd, Doc Rivers, Mark Jackson, Steve Nash, etc. MLB has done it, too. Most recently w/ the Cubs hiring David Ross.

Off hand, I cannot.

My narrative on this has been the same for years. Teams should stop dipping into the recycling bin and trash can for hires, because the line between the two is starting to blur. The Astros hired Dusty Baker under very different circumstances, but the dude is actually a good manager. So many of these guys really are not that good and keep finding their way into employment.

The industry is slow to change, and that's understandable, but I'm one of the ones who would like to see it change a little faster and get some fresh minds into some of these jobs. If for nothing else, it would be a little more interesting. Potentially.

 

[Dale]

Kiffin - Auburn smoke appears to be lighting up more than normal tonight

 

[zelezo vlk]

Kiffin isn’t afraid of Saban. He’s a perfect candidate for auburn.


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[NDPhilly]

Lebby to Ole Miss —> Jackson Arnold to ND just as we all planned

 

[stlnd01]

Lebby to Ole Miss —> Jackson Arnold to ND just as we all planned

I’m all for this outcome but I still don’t really understand why Kiffin would go to Auburn.

Seems a lateral move, with substantial downside risk from booster shit. Do they pay that much better than Ole Miss?

 

[Dale]

Do they pay that much better than Ole Miss?

Yes.

 

[Armyirish47]

Yes.

Remains to be seen, Kiffin makes 7.25 million right now, which is good for #11 in the country. Malzahn was making 7 and Harsin was making about 5.

 

[Dale]

Remains to be seen, Kiffin makes 7.25 million right now, which is good for #11 in the country. Malzahn was making 7 and Harsin was making about 5.

Not all about HC salary. Assistant coaches, facilities, NIL, all of it can be better at Auburn. Kiffin whines about it all the time.

 

[Armyirish47]

Not all about HC salary. Assistant coaches, facilities, NIL, all of it can be better at Auburn. Kiffin whines about it all the time.

We shall see, I think it's sort of like NASCAR though, if you ain't whining you ain't trying.

 

[Crazy Balki]

I’m all for this outcome but I still don’t really understand why Kiffin would go to Auburn.

Seems a lateral move, with substantial downside risk from booster shit. Do they pay that much better than Ole Miss?

Auburn has won a national championship and SEC title within the last 50 years.

Ole Miss hasn't even been to Atlanta at this point.

 

[allenm5333]

Yes.

Also appears Auburn is about to be all in on the NIL game

 

[Irish#1]

Not all about HC salary. Assistant coaches, facilities, NIL, all of it can be better at Auburn. Kiffin whines about it all the time.

What coach doesn't? Some are public about it and others aren't, but you can guarantee they're always asking for more.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Auburn has won a national championship and SEC title within the last 50 years.

Ole Miss hasn't even been to Atlanta at this point.

Right. They've had recent bites at the apple, and you can go back even further to Tuberville this century and Terry Bowden in the 90s.

Kiffin isn't a afraid of Saban and Freeze had some success against him as well. Both come with baggage but both can coach up ball and that's really all that counts down there. Again, for the record, Auburn employs Bruce Pearl as their hoops coach. Kiffin, Freeze or anyone else with Joe vs The Volcano luggage isn't a huge deal even if it is a new A.D. doing the hiring.

 

[NDohio]

Smart move by Kiffin if true. He has no fear when it comes to Saban and Saban is close to the end of his career.

 

[Dale]

What coach doesn't? Some are public about it and others aren't, but you can guarantee they're always asking for more.

I get that. The difference is Ole Miss actually loses coaches because of it and actually can’t recruit at the highest level. It’s not just asking for more for shits. Ole Miss doesn’t have top of CFB money, they just don’t.

 

[stlnd01]

Right. They've had recent bites at the apple, and you can go back even further to Tuberville this century and Terry Bowden in the 90s.

Kiffin isn't a afraid of Saban and Freeze had some success against him as well. Both come with baggage but both can coach up ball and that's really all that counts down there. Again, for the record, Auburn employs Bruce Pearl as their hoops coach. Kiffin, Freeze or anyone else with Joe vs The Volcano luggage isn't a huge deal even if it is a new A.D. doing the hiring.

Kiffin baggage is nothing like Freeze baggage, FWIW.

But yeah Auburn gives no F's about any baggage as long as the guy wins ballgames. I just think Kiffin could do better, program-wise, than Auburn, if he bides his time a bit longer.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Kiffin baggage is nothing like Freeze baggage, FWIW.

But yeah Auburn gives no F's about any baggage as long as the guy wins ballgames. I just think Kiffin could do better, program-wise, than Auburn, if he bides his time a bit longer.

It's Auburn. It doesn't really matter. Kiffin's baggage has more age on it. Like wine.

Kiffin left Tennessee and got fired at USC. How much better is he going to be able to do than where he's already been?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I get that. The difference is Ole Miss actually loses coaches because of it and actually can’t recruit at the highest level. It’s not just asking for more for shits. Ole Miss doesn’t have top of CFB money, they just don’t.

List of Ole Miss Rebels head football coaches - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The most wins in program history by a coach were obtained from 1948-1970. 190 for Johnny Vaught. The next closest guy is at 68 and was there from 1983-1993.

I guess Kiffin can stay at Ole Miss if he wants, but the program's history speaks for itself.

List of Auburn Tigers head football coaches - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Here's Auburn's coaching history. Gus Malzahn won....68 games there.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I guess WVU is going to give Neal Brown a chance to get OU back on track?

Struggling Big 12 team? WVU is just what the doctor ordered.

This did not age well.

Who'd have thought. Still thinking Brown gets fired at WVU.