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I don’t get why most people think LSU is a better job than UF. Feel pretty comparable to a Yankee like me. I think I’d prefer UF tbh.
 
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The two idiots at Split Zone Duo did it the other day and ESPN did it in this BK article today. For the love of god can the media manage to stop acting like ND isn’t a top program and that Freeman might want to “move up?” This team played in the national Championship last season. They have the number 5 recruiting class. How in the hell is this not an elite job?
It pisses me off too that Lanning is never brought up in these articles. The whole argument is if ND got poached once it can happen twice, happened with Oregon too and last I checked ND was better than them last year
 
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NDPhilly said:
I don’t get why most people think LSU is a better job than UF. Feel pretty comparable to a Yankee like me. I think I’d prefer UF tbh.
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Completely agree. To me, in the SEC there is Bama, that is a notch above every other job. After that I would put UF, UGA, LSU in a second tier. Texas now being the SEC changes it a bit, I could see them being tier 1, tier 1.5, or tier 2. I'm not really sure about OU or aTm.
 
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IrishEyesAreSmiling said:
LSU is a way better job than UF imo. I believe LSU is a top 3 job in the country.
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irishff1014 said:
Not sure about top 5 but it’s better than Florida imo.
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FWIrish4 said:
Personally, I believe LSU is a better job than Florida, but if Freeman immediately told Florida no, I feel even more confident LSU is a no for multiple reasons.
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I'm curious as to why this is the consensus. Florida and LSU are the same job to me. It feels like recency bias to me.
 
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NDPhilly said:
I don’t get why most people think LSU is a better job than UF. Feel pretty comparable to a Yankee like me. I think I’d prefer UF tbh.
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I think the difference is having the entire state to yourself versus competing with Miami and FSU for Florida. Also, apparently Florida talent isn't as great now. There has been a recent talking point of how they don't pay their high school coaches as well as other southern states and the kids have an easier time transferring high schools so they don't develop as well at one place.
 
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Dale said:
There is 1 LSU. There is 3 Floridas.

LSU.
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DomeFieldAdvantage said:
I think the difference is having the entire state to yourself versus competing with Miami and FSU for Florida. Also, apparently Florida talent isn't as great now. There has been a recent talking point of how they don't pay their high school coaches as well as other southern states and the kids have an easier time transferring high schools so they don't develop as well at one place.
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This has never stopped any of the Florida schools from recruiting at a high level as there's enough talent in that state to go around. UF has more SEC titles and more SECCG appearances than LSU*.

(Since the advent the SECCG)

I'm not trying to say UF is better than LSU, just that they're more or less equal.

I've heard that about the Florida HS talent but the state is still heavily recruited nationally, including by ND, so I think it's a little overblown.
 
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Anyone else find it interesting that all these schools seemingly have Kiffin 1A? He’s a good coach that hasn’t won anything yet and has a knack for losing games that he shouldn’t. Sounds a lot like the guy that just got fired from LSU. At least he’s cool. Maybe this year is different but I’m waiting for the loss to Florida or Miss State.

It could be the Lanning buyout is too much but in all these dumb wishcasting hotboards that have Kiffin, Freeman, Cignetti etc, you rarely see Lanning. Lanning is a better coach than Kiffin and more likely to make a jump than Freeman and Cignetti IMO.
 
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IMO LSU will hire one of:

- Lane Kiffin: obvious
- Brent Key: Sabanite and southerner
- Jon Sumrall: assuming he’s established LA relationships
- Kelvin Sheppard: culture hire
- Kenny Dillingham: youth/energy hire
 
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Bane said:
This has never stopped any of the Florida schools from recruiting at a high level as there's enough talent in that state to go around. UF has more SEC titles and more SECCG appearances than LSU*.

(Since the advent the SECCG)

I'm not trying to say UF is better than LSU, just that they're more or less equal.

I've heard that about the Florida HS talent but the state is still heavily recruited nationally, including by ND, so I think it's a little overblown.
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Unless the stats have changed, the state of Louisiana produces more NFL players per capita than Florida. And they always got the “home town discount” as kids grew up wanting to play there regardless of who was coaching (remember they were not a big deal prior to Saban). NIL has changed that a bit but I think LSU is the better gig long term
 
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notredomer23 said:
Anyone else find it interesting that all these schools seemingly have Kiffin 1A? He’s a good coach that hasn’t won anything yet and has a knack for losing games that he shouldn’t. Sounds a lot like the guy that just got fired from LSU. At least he’s cool. Maybe this year is different but I’m waiting for the loss to Florida or Miss State.

It could be the Lanning buyout is too much but in all these dumb wishcasting hotboards that have Kiffin, Freeman, Cignetti etc, you rarely see Lanning. Lanning is a better coach than Kiffin and more likely to make a jump than Freeman and Cignetti IMO.
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Who is more desirable than Kiffen? It seems like everyone that would be on that list is just not a realistic target. Smart, Lanning, Day, Freeman aren't leaving. Cig just got an extension. Sark might leave but only for the NFL. Who would be next?
 
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Kingbish01 said:
I know one thing for an absolute fact. Freeman will get a raise before the Boston College kickoff.
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I am not sure about that, but he is talking to Pete about his list of things he needs. If they weren’t getting checked they will be soon.
 
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2013Irish said:
No shot LSU hires a Yankee after the last go round. MF is a rust belt guy through and through. That alone will drop him down their list quite a bit.
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I wouldn’t go that far. Saban & Miles never pretended to be southern guys and they did just fine. I don’t want to think how successful MF would be down in BR.
 
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irishff1014 said:
I am not sure about that but he is talk to Pete about his list of things he needs. If they weren’t getting checked they will be soon.
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Before kickoff was tongue and cheek, but I have no doubt he gets one ASAP. When programs like UF, LSU or Penn St come calling...it's not up for debate...it's just something that has to happen as he has too much leverage.
 
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IRISHDODGER said:
I wouldn’t go that far. Saban & Miles never pretended to be southern guys and they did just fine. I don’t want to think how successful MF would be down in BR.
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Well Saban is from West Virginia. He may not be "southern" but he was no yankee.

For the record, I think the whole "can't hire a yankee" thing is a little overblown. BK was a bad cultural fit because he's an asshole (which may or may not be because he's a New England yankee), but had he won that wouldn't have mattered so much.
 
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LSU is not a top 3 job in the country, with NIL and the transfer portal there’s a level playing field across all top programs. Yes BK is immensely hate-able but he went 34-14 and got fired for his efforts. The hubris is ridiculous. These SEC schools all have national title expectations and eat each other alive.

I’m not joking when I say in the new CFB landscape the top 3 jobs are probably ND, Ohio State, and one of Michigan, Miami, or USC.
 
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All these big programs are gonna be bidding over the guy who got tarmac'd and named his kid Knox after the program he abandoned in the middle of the night to go get tarmac'd.
 
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