Coaching big board 2024

[Terry Jillery]

Urban Meyer is our Harbaugh. Hire him or we never win another title.

 

[Irish4life]

ND needs to decide if it truly wants to win. That statement is true regardless of if Freeman is the coach or they eventually move on. Like you said - the school would be nothing but a small liberal arts college in Indiana if not for football. Football put it on the map. But, for too long the university administration has seemed content being "relative" and it doesn't seem to burn them inside that the program isn't winning titles. Like you said - money shouldn't be a problem. I am not talking cheating (and really, very few things are still cheating with how the landscape has changed). But, 100% commitment, alignment - whatever word you want to use. Like you said, money shouldn't be an object. Facilities, coaching staff, NIL.....commit to the cost of winning. We are like 90% there, but I think there's another level that they could go to that hasn't been reached.

Forget to hit post on this since the 2004 offseason?

 

[NorthDakota]

Urban Meyer is our Harbaugh. Hire him or we never win another title.

I wouldn't go that far but I would go almost that far. A title is needed in the next decade, otherwise ND is in danger of becoming the next Nebraska.

 

[GATTACA!]

Yep. Other guys could do it. He is the best bet to do it (assuming he still has that fire). Further, his comments about ND indicates to me he thinks ND can do it. Ego is a powerful thing and I would love to see him do it. Would legit send shockwaves around the CFB world.

I'm not an alum. I don't really know any. My skin in the game is limited to the time wasted on this board and the time spent stressing and watching the team. But I think the alums may need to swallow the pill and go all out for football. Otherwise ND will begin to falter in some way, shape, or form. The generations of people who love Notre Dame or dream of their kids going there are not having kids anymore. They are old.

I want to see Michael Floyd and Golden Tate again too.

Honestly I could see him going for it. Jacksonville must have left an absolutely terrible taste in his mouth and he’s not going to want to go out on that. Winning a title with ND is like the ultimate challenge and would cement him on the CFB coaching Mount Rushmore.

Pleasantly surprised how little pushback there is on the idea here. Used to be a day you’d get flamed for even suggesting him as an option.

 

[JoeyGetherall]

I wouldn't go that far but I would go almost that far. A title is needed in the next decade, otherwise ND is in danger of becoming the next Nebraska.

To be far to Nebraska , its only been 25 years since they last won a title, not 35 😇

 

[Irish4life]

Honestly I could see him going for it. Jacksonville must have left an absolutely terrible taste in his mouth and he’s not going to want to go out on that. Winning a title with ND is like the ultimate challenge and would cement him on the CFB coaching Mount Rushmore.

Pleasantly surprised how little pushback there is on the idea here. Used to be a day you’d get flamed for even suggesting him as an option.

I'm sorry but what? Maybe if it were 2007 lol

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

He's the only option that would make me feel confident that we'd 100% win a championship.

Guys like Rhule or Clawson are great and could get it done if the stars aligned, but Urb is just different.

I would also love to be able to watch an offense from the 2000s with real WRs.

I'd be awfully curious to see how he adapts to the current college football environment, regardless of where he ends up if he ever came back. The level of concessions he'd have to have from ND are not much different than what he supposedly asked for in 2004.

Hiring him would mean a lot of things, but above all else, what the university and all of us as fans claim to stand for goes totally out the window the moment he sets foot on campus. The way he treated staff, players, etc. in Jacksonville is pretty cringe worthy, and harboring a wife beater at Ohio State was ultimately his undoing. That's major baggage that suddenly everyone would be willing to look around, not to mention what a complete off field shit show Florida was when he was there. Is the juice worth the squeeze with this guy? I have said and will continue to say no. Win with someone else.

I have a very hard time seeing it happen regardless, and I don't think it will for a variety of reasons. It's incredibly odd that 20 years later we're still sitting here swapping visions of the scenario playing out, through, which does say something about the program we support. (Yes, it's a fucking message board. Or a concept of one anyway)

 

[JoeyGetherall]

Honestly I could see him going for it. Jacksonville must have left an absolutely terrible taste in his mouth and he’s not going to want to go out on that. Winning a title with ND is like the ultimate challenge and would cement him on the CFB coaching Mount Rushmore.

Pleasantly surprised how little pushback there is on the idea here. Used to be a day you’d get flamed for even suggesting him as an option.

He's probably already on it , at least in the modern era. Titles at two different schools puts you on a short list. Combine that with his 85% overall winning percentage, 12-3 post season record and ability to do at different levels and areas on the country is unmatched. If he wins a title at ND you could make a case he surpasses saban based on results alone. If he won two, he would be without question the be the best imo.

 

[GATTACA!]

I'm sorry but what? Maybe if it were 2007 lol

 

[Irish4life]

I'd be awfully curious to see how he adapts to the current college football environment, regardless of where he ends up if he ever came back. The level of concessions he'd have to have from ND are not much different than what he supposedly asked for in 2004.

Hiring him would mean a lot of things, but above all else, what the university and all of us as fans claim to stand for goes totally out the window the moment he sets foot on campus. The way he treated staff, players, etc. in Jacksonville is pretty cringe worthy, and harboring a wife beater at Ohio State was ultimately his undoing. That's major baggage that suddenly everyone would be willing to look around, not to mention what a complete off field shit show Florida was when he was there. Is the juice worth the squeeze with this guy? I have said and will continue to say no. Win with someone else.

I have a very hard time seeing it happen regardless, and I don't think it will for a variety of reasons. It's incredibly odd that 20 years later we're still sitting here swapping visions of the scenario playing out, through, which does say something about the program we support. (Yes, it's a fucking message board. Or a concept of one anyway)

It says that we haven't won a title since the 80s.

 

[JoeyGetherall]

I'd be awfully curious to see how he adapts to the current college football environment, regardless of where he ends up if he ever came back. The level of concessions he'd have to have from ND are not much different than what he supposedly asked for in 2004.

Hiring him would mean a lot of things, but above all else, what the university and all of us as fans claim to stand for goes totally out the window the moment he sets foot on campus. The way he treated staff, players, etc. in Jacksonville is pretty cringe worthy, and harboring a wife beater at Ohio State was ultimately his undoing. That's major baggage that suddenly everyone would be willing to look around, not to mention what a complete off field shit show Florida was when he was there. Is the juice worth the squeeze with this guy? I have said and will continue to say no. Win with someone else.

I have a very hard time seeing it happen regardless, and I don't think it will for a variety of reasons. It's incredibly odd that 20 years later we're still sitting here swapping visions of the scenario playing out, through, which does say something about the program we support. (Yes, it's a fucking message board. Or a concept of one anyway)

It's hard to find a priest that's also a good big time football coach. Everyone has some sort of baggage and you have to be a bit of a prick. Could we win with another coach? Absolutely, but Urban gives us the best chance to do it in the next 5-10 years, and time is of essence. Once it gets to 50 years without a title, no one will give a shit about ND football the way they still do now.

 

[Irish4life]

It's hard to find a priest that's also a good big time football coach. Everyone has some sort of baggage and you have to be a bit of a prick. Could we win with another coach? Absolutely, but Urban gives us the best chance to do it in the next 5-10 years, and time is of essence. Once it gets to 50 years without a title, no one will give a shit about ND football the way they still do now.

Michigan went 50 years without a title between 1947 and 1997. Did people stop giving a shit about them?

 

[JoeyGetherall]

Michigan went 50 years without a title between 1947 and 1997. Did people stop giving a shit about them?

If you want pretend it's still 1997, that's on you lol

 

[Sea Turtle]

It's hard to find a priest that's also a good big time football coach. Everyone has some sort of baggage and you have to be a bit of a prick. Could we win with another coach? Absolutely, but Urban gives us the best chance to do it in the next 5-10 years, and time is of essence. Once it gets to 50 years without a title, no one will give a shit about ND football the way they still do now.

That priest from the exorcist would have been game. In fact, hee was Ara in Rudy.

 

[BoredIrish]

I hate Urban... but I would actually be pumped to see him coach ND.

With that said, he would probably use ND as leverage and spurn the Irish in favor of Florida all over again. Now that I think of it, i'm surprised that there hasnt been more buzz about him going back to the Gators.

 

[Irish4life]

If you want pretend it's still 1997, that's on you lol

Did people stop caring about Michigan football during it's 5 decades without a title? Yes or no

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

It says that we haven't won a title since the 80s.

Hiring Urban Meyer, there is no guarantee you get a national championship. One guarantee regardless of what happens is that you get all that comes with him.

The sanctimonious, pretentious attitude about SC, Michigan, Ohio State and everyone else gets flushed. Any moral high ground is gone, though I'm sure plenty of us would have zero trouble continuing to claim it.

Marcus Freeman is the head coach for tomorrow's. I have all fucks to give about that and zero for Urban Meyer

 

[Irish4life]

Hiring Urban Meyer, there is no guarantee you get a national championship. One guarantee regardless of what happens is that you get all that comes with him.

The sanctimonious, pretentious attitude about SC, Michigan, Ohio State and everyone else gets flushed. Any moral high ground is gone, though I'm sure plenty of us would have zero trouble continuing to claim it.

Marcus Freeman is the head coach for tomorrow's. I have all fucks to give about that and zero for Urban Meyer

I never said any of that. The reason we're still talking about Urban Meyer is that we haven't won a title since 1988. Also Notre Dame fans are sanctimonious pricks.....that's the personality of the fanbase and the program in general. IF it happens (0.0% chance) the narrative will be that he's a changed man and is doing it the right way at ND now.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I never said any of that. The reason we're still talking about Urban Meyer is that we haven't won a title since 1988.

That's part of it. Some people are still wanting this to happen, albeit the week after a loss to Northern Illinois.

Would there be mutual interest is the question I have always maintained. I don't think there would be.

 

[JoeyGetherall]

Did people stop caring about Michigan football during it's 5 decades without a title? Yes or no

Yes. And they benefit from a regional fan base and graduate 4x the amount of alumni ND does every year. Plus they also have the chance to win a conference champ and win their "The Game" every year. We have the USC game which no one other than students and alumni care about. I live in SoCal, the annual USC v UCLA game is much more hyped locally then the ND game. Plus that game could go away as things shake out.

ND is in a unique situation where the majority of their fan base is the same demographic as cable news watchers. They won't be around in 15 years and their kids / grand kids won't be there to take their spot.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

Urban is a big no from me.

Scum of the earth. Those Florida teams were littered with criminals. Rapes, assaults, MURDERS.

 

[Irish4life]

That's part of it. Some people are still wanting this to happen, albeit the week after a loss to Northern Illinois.

Would there be mutual interest is the question I have always maintained. I don't think there would be.

I believe the only program Urban would return to coaching for is Notre Dame. I don't believe ND will ever make that call.

 

[Irish4life]

Urban is a big no from me.

Scum of the earth. Those Florida teams were littered with criminals. Rapes, assaults, MURDERS.

And as we know, Notre Dame didn't have ANY controversies or controversial players come through the program during the longest tenured coach of this century's tenure...

 

[Irish du Nord]

Did people stop caring about Michigan football during it's 5 decades without a title? Yes or no

Starting to think he’s not the real Joey Getherall…

 

[NorthDakota]

Michigan went 50 years without a title between 1947 and 1997. Did people stop giving a shit about them?

Michigan is a state school. Notre Dame is not.

 

[NorthDakota]

Honestly I could see him going for it. Jacksonville must have left an absolutely terrible taste in his mouth and he’s not going to want to go out on that. Winning a title with ND is like the ultimate challenge and would cement him on the CFB coaching Mount Rushmore.

Pleasantly surprised how little pushback there is on the idea here. Used to be a day you’d get flamed for even suggesting him as an option.

Winning at ND would end any discussion. Waking the echos up would be the ultimate achievement. Anyone can win a title at Florida or Ohio State. Winning at ND means more and I think just about any coach would admit that privately.

 

[JoeyGetherall]

Michigan is a state school. Notre Dame is not.

Exactly. The regional mix keeps folks interested at the local watering hole.

I know UofM fans that gave up from '97 to '20 , let alone 50 years lol

They only started to pay attention again recently bc their kids graduated high school and didn't have anything to do on the weekends. Great timing for them

 

[NDRock]

Hiring Urban Meyer, there is no guarantee you get a national championship. One guarantee regardless of what happens is that you get all that comes with him.

The sanctimonious, pretentious attitude about SC, Michigan, Ohio State and everyone else gets flushed. Any moral high ground is gone, though I'm sure plenty of us would have zero trouble continuing to claim it.

Marcus Freeman is the head coach for tomorrow's. I have all fucks to give about that and zero for Urban Meyer

Eh, we ended up on probation because of the Holtz years. In fact, Holtz left several programs on probation after he left. I love Lou but the guy was no saint. He was a winner which makes people forgive a lot. He’s also got that self deprecating humor that makes people love him. Not trying to compare the two but ND has been put on probation multiple times so it’s not like we’re some perfect program.

 

[irishnd31]

Yes, I've been reminded multiple times this is a message board. It's a fact not lost on me, but we all have the ability to do simple counting. Two games played, 1-1 record. The time to even discuss the next coach is not the week prior to game 3. Everyone can vent away, though. I sometimes wish I was a wizard but I'm grown up enough to know that's not going to fucking happen. I just find it rather interesting that the posters who typically complain the most, project doom and gloom more often than not and have the most grievance of being a fan of this program still manage to wet themselves over setbacks. This same group of people practically beg for it, expect it more often than not and when they get it, they just hit the keyboard harder when they type. Just seems like a weird way to consume sports. I cut the Chicago White Sox out of my sight a year ago. I don't miss them. I feel better. Something for some folks to consider. If something is upsetting you and not providing joy in your life, maybe walk away?

I didn't talk to @irishnd31 for years. Now we're opening for Oasis next year in Springfield, Ohio. Can't wait.

There's a fine line between venting after a loss, a bad loss, and tearing down Marcus Freeman out of nothing more than an emotional tantrum. I was at my 9 year old daughter's soccer game and would refresh the score every so often. I'm honestly not terribly surprised they lost. Disappointed for sure and maybe a bit frustrated, but now we go into tomorrow not knowing what the hell is going to happen. I think they will win, but so much of that depends on decisions that probably need to be made by 1-3 people on that coaching staff.

I really don't want another 2007 or 2016, and while I doubt that is in the cards with this defense, the offense gives me pause for concern after the first 120 minutes we've seen.

Oasis would be damn lucky to have us @Jiggafini19Deux 😉

 

[thekid33]

Honestly I could see him going for it. Jacksonville must have left an absolutely terrible taste in his mouth and he’s not going to want to go out on that. Winning a title with ND is like the ultimate challenge and would cement him on the CFB coaching Mount Rushmore.

Pleasantly surprised how little pushback there is on the idea here. Used to be a day you’d get flamed for even suggesting him as an option.

My only push back is wondering if he can still do it.