Cincinnati @ NC State

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NC State leads 7-0 after scoring easily.

Interesting Notre Dame ties in this game. Obviously Cincy being BK's old team, but how about Jon Tenuta as NC State's linebackers coach? A big step down from being the Irish's defensive coordinator.
 

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Russel Wilson looked really good on that first scoring drive. I was very impressed by his performance even though he didn't have much time to practice football due to baseball.
 

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NC State came one yard away from going up 21-0... now watch Cinncy come back...
 

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ok, that touchback was extremely lucky...let's see if Cincinnati can take advantage finally..
 

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I dunno - with that punt return, looks like Cincinnati is trying to return the favor...
 

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Chalk up another lost to Cincy. Well chalk an extra one up because they aren't winning next week either..

I'm 3-3 on predicting games for Cincy..
 

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NC State wins 30-19, Cincinnati falls to 1-2.

How 'bout that coach Notre Dame picked up?
 

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Is it me or does Butch Jones spend more time bitching and moaning at the refs than coaching.. Maybe Ben Guidugli should worry about making it to a decent bowl instead wanting to play ND in a bowl. By the way didn't he get injuried?

Ben Guidugli < Kyle Rudolph
 
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did everyone hear that john t is the d coach for nc state
 

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did everyone hear that john t is the d coach for nc state

He coaches linebackers.

DirtySecret: Nice call on Cincy...they are awful.

Of course, Bearcat players and fans alike were saying how their practices are now faster than before and they're in better shape and that now their coach is more personable and it's more of a family-type atmosphere. How's that working out for you guys?
 

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Linebackers looked pretty good against an atrocious blocking scheme run by Cinci. That was embarrassing.

They blitzed constantly and if you saw Cinci broke a few big plays on them. ND plays better competition that could find those holes consistently. Good riddance Tenuta
 

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1-2 to start Cincy. I think they should go back to being pissed at BK for leaving them, instead of saying they don't need him. Clearly they do.
 

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The more Cincy struggles this year, the more it highlights the coaching job Kelly did there. That is really good news for ND! Sucks for Cinn as they may be going back to college football irrelavence. Certainly no more Big East titles.
 

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didn't they lose alot of good players from last years team. not really sure just asking?
 

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The question becomes was Kelly the savior, or did he jump ship at the right time...

I imagine it will be tough to find a non-biased answer to that question.
 

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They lost WR Mardy Gilyard & Tony Pike. Gilyard was a very good wideout for them.

They were pretty bad on D anyway, so it's more or less a moot point....Overall they didn't lose a whole lot.
 

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Univ of Cinn., is definently a different team than it was the last couple of years for sure.
 

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Good look to Cincy next week against Oklahoma. 1-3...will be lucky to finish above .500
 

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Of course, Bearcat players and fans alike were saying how their practices are now faster than before and they're in better shape and that now their coach is more personable and it's more of a family-type atmosphere. How's that working out for you guys?

Yeah, but what do you expect them to say? They knew their success was wrapped up in Kelly; after he left, nothing to do but grandstand and talk a big game to try to convince themselves that they were still the cream of the Big East. There's a lot of evidence the Kelly overperformed with the Bearcats considering their Rivals talent level, with a good article at Football Outsiders. The summary portion:

Here is the three-year overachiever list, with numbers.
1. TCU (+44.0/season)
2. Cincinnati (+43.5)
3. Boise State (+39.1)
4. Florida (+35.1)
5. Navy (+32.7)



Clashmoremike had an article a while back, same idea but looking at average scoring margin (kind of a Bill James Pythagorean for football, not quite as good but still an R^2 value of 0.92) - to which they sum up:

Over the course of the last five seasons, Kelly’s teams have outperformed their expected winning percentage by an average of almost eight percent. What this means is that, on average, a Kelly-coached team has won at least one more game per season than it was expected to.


So yeah, I think they had a lot to fear as far as a drop off.
 

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Clashmoremike had an article a while back, same idea but looking at average scoring margin (kind of a Bill James Pythagorean for football, not quite as good but still an R^2 value of 0.92) - to which they sum up:

Nice info! I have no idea what the hell an R`2 value of .92 means LOL, but thanks for the post...some good info there (although I can't believe FL actually OVERachieved).
 

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Nice info! I have no idea what the hell an R`2 value of .92 means LOL, but thanks for the post...some good info there (although I can't believe FL actually OVERachieved).

Well, R squared gets a little deep into statistics for a Friday night, but it basically measures the percentage of variance of the scatterplot of data points to the line of best fit. Higher values are better, so a 0.92 means that the line fits very well meaning you can probably trust it, and the data that followed from it.

Oh, and I am not a statistician, so any of you Domers feel free to clean up my mistakes as you see fit.
 
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