Brian Kelly Revisited (RIP BOZO)

[irishff1014]

This one isn't on Kelly. The talent gap between these teams is so massive. They have elite players all over the field at just about every position. They're just so much more talented than ND.

It’s Kelly’s fault we don’t have a stand out WR, it’s Kelly’s fault we don’t have a stand out CB and I could go on. You can’t constantly look for a gem in the rough the staff can’t recruit good enough. We can’t develop a Qb that can throw the ball down the field. He is the head coach that’s his fault.

 

[tussin]

Switch the coaches, Saban would win.

I strongly disagree.

 

[NorthDakota]

If you had told me Alabama had 28 points at this point in the game....I would have been ecstatic. Too bad the offense took a shit per usual.

 

[NorthDakota]

ND and Florida apparently have similar talent, but UF was competitive. We're never competitive in these games. Ever.

Florida has a QB. We have Ian Book.

 

[MNIrishman]

Our biggest barrier is Alabama somehow being allowed to be a university with degrees like "sports hospitality."

 

[IrishTusker]

Florida has a QB. We have Ian Book.

And who is to blame for that?

 

[ThePiombino]

And who is to blame for that?

Wimbush?

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[NDRock]

Switch the coaches, Saban would win.

No way. Look at Saban’s MSU and NFL record. Kelly beats all the teams he out talents (last 4 years). So does Saban. Give Kelly Saban’s roster and he wins a NC or at least beats ND.

 

[NorthDakota]

Wimbush?

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Honestly...yeah. if he holds onto his job, he hands the baton off to Phil.

 

[TP81989]

It's laughable looking back that Kelly was talked about as an offensive guru when he came to ND. The offense is beyond pathetic in all of these games against elite teams.

 

[notredomer23]

Book is an issue but when you’re too 2 receivers are 4.7 speed guys it’s gonna be tough to compete. The talent gap on the lines is minimal. It’s all at the skill positions. Who is at fault for that? Partially BK for sure, and partially ND as an institution.

 

[notredomer23]

It's laughable looking back that Kelly was talked about as an offensive guru when he came to ND. The offense is beyond pathetic in all of these games against elite teams.

If he consistently bad players like Fuller, Claypool, and Boykin, he would be. But we’re talking about 3 guys drafted over last 4 years. Bama has had Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs, Jaylen Waddle, and Davonte Smith the last two years.

 

[irishff1014]

Book is an issue but when you’re too 2 receivers are 4.7 speed guys it’s gonna be tough to compete. The talent gap on the lines is minimal. It’s all at the skill positions. Who is at fault for that? Partially BK for sure, and partially ND as an institution.

You are right but Book rarely leads his wide receivers so they can make a play.

 

[IrishTusker]

No way. Look at Saban’s MSU and NFL record. Kelly beats all the teams he out talents (last 4 years). So does Saban. Give Kelly Saban’s roster and he wins a NC or at least beats ND.

Saban wanted Brees. I think he would have done pretty well with Brees.

And recruiting is half the job as a college coach. Bama wasn't recruiting as they do now before Saban showed up. Kelly is not a good recruiter.

 

[Riddickulous]

I'd grade his tenure around the B+/A- range. Aside from developing an elite QB (which he hasn't and that's on him) I don't see how he can realistically take this program much further.

 

[mick2]

If you can't beat em join em. Gotta adopt the bama clemson philosophy to football if we want to compete. Swarbrick and jenkins need to do something.

 

[notredomer23]

Can he hire Charlie Weis to exclusively recruit offense?

 

[NDRock]

Saban wanted Brees. I think he would have done pretty well with Brees.

And recruiting is half the job as a college coach. Bama wasn't recruiting as they do now before Saban showed up. Kelly is not a good recruiter.

Agree on the recruiting, that’s half the battle and pretty much won the game before it started.

 

[T-Boone]

Did anyone else LOL when Keys got to receive a pass?

 

[NDFAN420]

If he consistently bad players like Fuller, Claypool, and Boykin, he would be. But we’re talking about 3 guys drafted over last 4 years. Bama has had Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs, Jaylen Waddle, and Davonte Smith the last two years.

That's the difference right there. Either out-recruit them and have Fuller, Claypool, and Boykin on your team at the same time instead of spread out. Or out-innovate them. ND's doing neither right now.

 

[gkIrish]

Just a reminder that you aren't allowed to have the opinion that winning championships/playoff games is the ultimate goal and a coach that can't do that should be fired.

 

[ulukinatme]

Guys, our two losses are to the two semi-pro teams that will probably play for the championship. We're a top 10 team, but you can't compete with these football factories in these big games. The talent gap, at least at skill positions, is huge. You can only hope in these big games that your guys play perfect and the other team stumbles.

 

[NDRock]

Guys, our two losses are to the two semi-pro teams that will probably play for the championship. We're a top 10 team, but you can't compete with these football factories in these big games. The talent gap, at least at skill positions, is huge. You can only hope in these big games that your guys play perfect and the other team stumbles.

Honestly, looking at our roster and schedule at the beginning of the year, things could not have gone better. Great season, we just ran out of talent.

 

[T-Boone]

BKs inability to develop WRs is a big concern. How did JJ and Watts not even get into the equation with this WR group? If either of them catches 3 balls next season it will be the standard development tree for BK and WRs.

 

[NDisme]

If he consistently bad players like Fuller, Claypool, and Boykin, he would be. But we’re talking about 3 guys drafted over last 4 years. Bama has had Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs, Jaylen Waddle, and Davonte Smith the last two years.

Exactly, best you can hope for is Austin, Johnson and Watts or Styles are those guys but who knows

 

[NDisme]

BKs inability to develop WRs is a big concern. How did JJ and Watts not even get into the equation with this WR group? If either of them catches 3 balls next season it will be the standard development tree for BK and WRs.

Notre Dame unlike schools in the SEC and others, when players come in they have to adapt to ND and the school and a whole list of things players at other schools don’t have to, if there is even a whiff of a player struggling academically or otherwise they will not play. I can’t say that for Watts or others but I know for Johnson that was an issue. Are there ways to get talented guys on the field sure and BK seems to favor a trusted veteran in spots more. But at ND most of the time it’s not entirely about football.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Notre Dame unlike schools in the SEC and others, when players come in they have to adapt to ND and the school and a whole list of things players at other schools don’t have to, if there is even a whiff of a player struggling academically or otherwise they will not play. I can’t say that for Watts or others but I know for Johnson that was an issue. Are there ways to get talented guys on the field sure and BK seems to favor a trusted veteran in spots more. But at ND most of the time it’s not entirely about football.

And this will never be something that can be avoided

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Just a reminder that you aren't allowed to have the opinion that winning championships/playoff games is the ultimate goal and a coach that can't do that should be fired.

'Bama and Clemson spend 4-5x more on football than we do. It's reflected in a myriad of ways- recruiting class rankings, players drafted, staff pay, the small army of "analysts" breaking down film on recruits and opponents, etc- but that's where the real gap is.

Kelly has no control over how much ND's admin is willing to spend on football. Your beef is with them, not our HC.

 

[Dizzyphil]

 

[irishff1014]

Guys, our two losses are to the two semi-pro teams that will probably play for the championship. We're a top 10 team, but you can't compete with these football factories in these big games. The talent gap, at least at skill positions, is huge. You can only hope in these big games that your guys play perfect and the other team stumbles.

We can’t develop WR’s consistently, we can’t develop CB’s consistently. Bama has 8 3 star recruits the last 2 years we have 23. If you are going to allow your self to take that many 3 stars you damn sure better have coaches that can get the most out of them and we don’t. We have to do better recruiting and we can But that means Kelly has to step up to the plate. When comes to head coaches recruiting he is lazy.

And you have to have coaches that put the players in the best spot to win and Rees did not I repeat did not do that I. The first half of this game. Another thing our coaches are is to loyal. Crawford should not be start safety for ND.