Bowl Predictions 2019

[tko]

Beat Stanford.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

Beat Stanford.

The bowl experts are saying the Stanford game doesn’t matter. Win or lose, we’re most likely headed for the camping world bowl. This Stanford game is about as low stakes as a game can get at ND.

 

[ND88]

Camping World Bowl . . .

Just screams football.

Only twigs in the wind.

I respect what the team did after playing like skunks in Ann Arbor,

but is the Camping World bowl pretty much equivalent to the Blockbuster Bowl?

Damn... I hope they have Clemson circled twice next year, because the ceiling this season is tents.

 

[ND88]

The bowl experts are saying the Stanford game doesn’t matter. Win or lose, we’re most likely headed for the camping world bowl. This Stanford game is about as low stakes as a game can get at ND.

It's always high stakes for Notre Dame.

Every week on the boards is a potential repeat of Chernobyl.

 

[SouthernIndianaNDFan]

Oh great, so this is Stanford's Super Bowl and it's essentially meaningless for us? Dream scenario.

 

[Luckylucci]

Oh great, so this is Stanford's Super Bowl and it's essentially meaningless for us? Dream scenario.

Haha, this is so cute.

 

[SouthernIndianaNDFan]

Haha, this is so cute.

I aim to please.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Camping World Bowl . . .

Just screams football.

Only twigs in the wind.

I respect what the team did after playing like skunks in Ann Arbor,

but is the Camping World bowl pretty much equivalent to the Blockbuster Bowl?

Damn... I hope they have Clemson circled twice next year, because the ceiling this season is tents.

You may be looking at this wrong. As someone touched on before, the NY6 bowls are basically a consolation prize for teams ranked 5-12 that didn't make the playoff. The fact that they have more cachet than others is basically just a holdover from the old BCS system. The Camping World Bowl is on 12/28, the same day as the first round of the Playoffs (Peach and Fiesta Bowls). So lots of people will be settling in for a long day of CFB, including our likely bowl game.

We've got an opportunity to finish 11-2 with a solid bowl victory, which is something ND hasn't managed since Holtz left. That would be huge for our recruiting momentum, and I'm legitimately excited for it. Let's not overlook that just because the bowl is sponsored by Camping World.

 

[koonja]

Oh great, so this is Stanford's Super Bowl and it's essentially meaningless for us? Dream scenario.

Would you rather us be playing a 9-2 Stanford team with hops of winning the PAC 12 and making a playoff push?

 

[PraetorianND]

Would you rather us be playing a 9-2 Stanford team with hops of winning the PAC 12 and making a playoff push?

Personally, I would. Stanford is dangerous no matter what their record is. If we happen to lose I’d rather their record was better. But, I just really want the W and a big bowl win. 11 wins would be great.

 

[stlnd01]

Would you rather us be playing a 9-2 Stanford team with hops of winning the PAC 12 and making a playoff push?

Yes. If Stanford were 9-2 with a shot to win the PAC-12, beating them would help us make a better bowl game. We have no impressive wins this year. They’d be one.

 

[koonja]

Personally, I would. Stanford is dangerous no matter what their record is. If we happen to lose I’d rather their record was better. But, I just really want the W and a big bowl win. 11 wins would be great.

Yes. If Stanford were 9-2 with a shot to win the PAC-12, beating them would help us make a better bowl game. We have no impressive wins this year. They’d be one.

I think you guys are missing my point. If you read the post I quoted, to me it's clear he's thinking "oh man, Stanford is going to bring their everything".

I'd rather deal with the "everything" from a 4-8 team than a 9-2 team with championship hopes.

But in terms of value of win, yeah I agree with you two. I'd also prefer to play a great stanford team, but that's not what the OP's concern was, I think.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Yes. If Stanford were 9-2 with a shot to win the PAC-12, beating them would help us make a better bowl game. We have no impressive wins this year. They’d be one.

Define an "impressive win". Our resume stacks up plenty well against many of the teams ranked above us. The committee refused to move us up after three blow out victories not because we lack a signature victory, but because they're intent on boosting a weak Pac-12 team into the playoff this year. Beating a 9-2 Stanford wouldn't change that.

 

[Luckylucci]

Yes. If Stanford were 9-2 with a shot to win the PAC-12, beating them would help us make a better bowl game. We have no impressive wins this year. They’d be one.

I guess there are varying degrees of impressive but to me beating VT is an impressive win. Since we beat them they beat a 7-1 WF team 36-17 and beat a 7-3 Pitt team 28-0. We absolutely housed a 7-1 top 25 Navy team that turned around and beat a 9-1 top 25 SMU team. And we beat a top 25 USC team that has a win against the #6 team in the country. I think those should definitely register as impressive.

 

[stlnd01]

Fine. We have no wins that appear to be impressing the Playoff Committee.

Closing out the season on the road beating a 9-2 Stanford team that’s presumably ranked 10-15 and going to the PAC 12 title game would - should? - be that sort of impressive win. More than mid-season home victories over teams that are probably better than they looked at the time.

 

[Luckylucci]

Fine. We have no wins that appear to be impressing the Playoff Committee.
Closing out the season on the road beating a 9-2 Stanford team that’s presumably ranked 10-15 and going to the PAC 12 title game would - should? - be that sort of impressive win. More than mid-season home victories over teams that are probably better than they looked at the time.

Correct, and I have my opinions on why that might be but also willing to understand there are varying degrees of impressive. With that said, if ND's ranked wins are not impressive because the teams weren't ranked high enough then what impressive wins does Utah have? Or Baylor? Florida?

 

[ND88]

You may be looking at this wrong. As someone touched on before, the NY6 bowls are basically a consolation prize for teams ranked 5-12 that didn't make the playoff. The fact that they have more cachet than others is basically just a holdover from the old BCS system. The Camping World Bowl is on 12/28, the same day as the first round of the Playoffs (Peach and Fiesta Bowls). So lots of people will be settling in for a long day of CFB, including our likely bowl game.

We've got an opportunity to finish 11-2 with a solid bowl victory, which is something ND hasn't managed since Holtz left. That would be huge for our recruiting momentum, and I'm legitimately excited for it. Let's not overlook that just because the bowl is sponsored by Camping World.

Yes, everything you write is valid and well-thought out, but the marquee still reads Frozen II. Anyway, I’ll still be watching and cheering even if the optics of the name are goofy.

 

[stlnd01]

Correct, and I have my opinions on why that might be but also willing to understand there are varying degrees of impressive. With that said, if ND's ranked wins are not impressive because the teams weren't ranked high enough then what impressive wins does Utah have? Or Baylor? Florida?

You’ll get no argument from me on Utah, Baylor or Florida. Utah has played no one and Florida and Baylor’s best “wins” have been losses. My main point think it’s better for Notre Dame’s postseason prospects when Notre Dame has the chance to win a statement game at the end of the season, then to beat up on a team that’s 4-8.

 

[ThePiombino]

Beat Stanford.

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[ickythump1225]

Florida beat Auburn, who the committee loves. The committee has an inordinate amount of love for Auburn and Penn St.

 

[ickythump1225]

For the record, I'm not saying that Auburn is an impressive win (though it is a better win than we have currently), but the committee does view it as a big win.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

For the record, I'm not saying that Auburn is an impressive win (though it is a better win than we have currently), but the committee does view it as a big win.

Agree with this. Though if Bama crushes Auburn then I would say ND’s won over USC is equal to Florida’s win over Auburn.

Florida beat Auburn, who the committee loves. The committee has an inordinate amount of love for Auburn and Penn St.

I would add they have an inordinate amount of love for Oregon and Utah along with the two you mentioned.




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[stlnd01]

Agree with this. Though if Bama crushes Auburn then I would say ND’s won over USC is equal to Florida’s win over Auburn.




I would add they have an inordinate amount of love for Oregon and Utah along with the two you mentioned.

Of note: Oregon lost close to Auburn, so they get Transitive Auburn Love as well.

 

[bcole2]

Read an article that the Citrus could be coming back into play for us since Penn State stayed ahead of Florida in the most recent rankings. This would require 2 SEC teams in the playoffs. The next one outside of the top 4 would then be taken by the Sugar Bowl. Since PSU would be ahead of the next SEC team after that, the Orange would take them and when the Orange takes a Big 10 team, the Citrus takes an ACC team. We would probably play Florida or Auburn if we are that team.

 

[stlnd01]

Read an article that the Citrus could be coming back into play for us since Penn State stayed ahead of Florida in the most recent rankings. This would require 2 SEC teams in the playoffs. The next one outside of the top 4 would then be taken by the Sugar Bowl. Since PSU would be ahead of the next SEC team after that, the Orange would take them and when the Orange takes a Big 10 team, the Citrus takes an ACC team. We would probably play Florida or Auburn if we are that team.

Maybe if we played Auburn in a bowl game the CFP Committee would love us too.

 

[ThePiombino]

Read an article that the Citrus could be coming back into play for us since Penn State stayed ahead of Florida in the most recent rankings. This would require 2 SEC teams in the playoffs. The next one outside of the top 4 would then be taken by the Sugar Bowl. Since PSU would be ahead of the next SEC team after that, the Orange would take them and when the Orange takes a Big 10 team, the Citrus takes an ACC team. We would probably play Florida or Auburn if we are that team.

This would be the most ND finish to the season possible, so yes. We would go from FAVORABLE Orange, Cotton, or Camping World Bowl matchup to SEC matchup against two teams very capable of giving our one-ish dimensional offense fits. Cool.

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[Rudy89]

This would be the most ND finish to the season possible, so yes. We would go from FAVORABLE Orange, Cotton, or Camping World Bowl matchup to SEC matchup against two teams very capable of giving our one-ish dimensional offense fits. Cool.

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So that pretty much means it’s going to happen. Gonna suck listening to all the Gator fans brag at work about how they killed us.

 

[Sea Turtle]

This would be the most ND finish to the season possible, so yes. We would go from FAVORABLE Orange, Cotton, or Camping World Bowl matchup to SEC matchup against two teams very capable of giving our one-ish dimensional offense fits. Cool.

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We have never played Auburn. Ever. So in that respect it would be interesting.

But I'm afraid they would just out athlete us. Florida probably would too. Neither team would be good for us. We need a good matchup.

 

[Dizzyphil]

Auburn is going to beat Bama
LSU is going to beat GA




so, LSU, O$U, Clemson, OK


LSU vs OK
O$U vs Clemson

 

[ND88]

Auburn is going to beat Bama
LSU is going to beat GA




so, LSU, O$U, Clemson, OK


LSU vs OK
O$U vs Clemson

And the finals? Who is winning it all?