BK stays at ND

Redbar

Well-known member
Messages
3,531
Reaction score
806
If this happens I will really and I mean really be surprised BUT more importantly I think it is a huge statement on the state of college football. Here is my drift. This fine coach has just put one of if not the most storied programs in his sport back on the map and he may leave just on the cusp of a tremendous recruiting class. All the while keep in mind that now he knows he would see the tremendous pull of Notre Dame for recruits and a bright if not brilliant next few years. WHY-because he just saw a very good COLLEGE football team dismantled by PRO FOOTBALL SOUTH playing with a stacked deck of admissions/conference culture of dont tell. Maybe in his heart he knows for the next however long the sec under the current structure I just mentioned will continue and pile them up. These men such as BK are good /great coaches and competitve men who want to win. My opinion is that if this happens it says more about the stacked deck that college football has become rather than directing any critisim against Brian Kelly. Connect the dots here boys Brian Kelly is no quitter.

I thought this exact same thing. Believe me I think he will stay and I said that in the Bears thread. But I think it is very frustrating for extremely competitive men to realize that the current culture not only in the NCAA but also in the media are completely stacked against them. Who wants to keep charging windmills? However, in the end I think he will realize that what he is, is a college football coach, and he will re-sharpen his sword, mount his steed, and take another charge at that windmill that is the NCAA/SEC/ESPN cartel.
 

Irish To The Core

New member
Messages
668
Reaction score
72
At this point it is not a big deal at all. I myself have interviewed for jobs that I really didn't think I would want. Good jobs, arguably a step up from my current job, but I was not really interested in uprooting, etc. But I did those interviews, was offered one of the two jobs and thanked them for the interest, etc. but concluded that I was not interested. During the other interview (the job I was not offered) I point blank told them at the end of the interview, that I wasn't interested in the job anymore. In the end those interviews were uplifting experiences, because I felt zero pressure and they helped me to reaffirm the good things I had going on in my life...things that I wouldn't trade for a few bucks more and bit fancier title.

Perhaps Kelly is doing the same thing. An NFL team is calling, he is mildly interested and flattered. It is a chance to tour a different organization get some insider's insights on what an NFL team is looking for, have a nice meal and then the nice feeling of saying "No thanks, I already have a job and life that I prefer to the one you are offering."
 
G

Grahambo

Guest
Can't lie, I hyped myself up being caught off guard despite deep down knowing its a leverage ploy. With that said, I think this will be positive for recruiting long term and very manageable short term.

BK can now say he interviewed and turned down the NFL. Kids will eat that up. Not all but a kid hearing that a top coach at a D1 program whose recruiting them was good enough for the NFL but he said no.
 

dublinirish

Everestt Gholstonson
Messages
27,308
Reaction score
13,086
definitely a leverage ploy, hopefully if BK gets a raise then his assistants will get their's too and its win-win all round.
 

JadeBrecks

MOΛΩN ΛABE
Messages
4,982
Reaction score
371
I hope it isn't true. If it is not Kelly should smash this fast. Recruits don't like uncertainty on who will be coaching
 
Last edited:

ShamrockOnHelmet

Refreshman
Messages
2,745
Reaction score
1,750
I get all the 'contract leverage' talk and stuff. I know ultimately its business. But at the same time, do we (Notre Dame) not always uphold a slightly different set of standards?

I'm particularly disappointed in Swarbrick. I don't think he's the kind of guy that engages in reindeer games, so I believe he has no part in a ploy. So, that means he was caught off guard. You can't have that happen in his position at ND. He's been in command of every situation to this point, but this is shocking departure from that.

I assumed he had the "this is NOT a stepping stone job" talk with all candidates while interviewing. But maybe no. Its just disappointing and makes BK and Jack both look bad. If he doesn't want to be here more than ANYTHING else in the world, I say let him go (ie, if you take an interview somewhere else, don't bother coming back). This can't be a thing that happens like the Chip Kelly deal.
 
Last edited:

Mr. McGibblets

Mr McBowden's Love Child
Messages
4,388
Reaction score
258
I know this wont get alot of support but I dont even care what he does, what he is doing, or in what nation he is located. If he leaves, so be it. If it was pre-National Championship, I'd be concerned. worried, and aprehensive. I'm still numb from the disappointment of that game. Doesnt mean I blame him for that loss--I just dont care what he does.
 

jmurphy75

Well-known member
Messages
1,036
Reaction score
63
Can't lie, I hyped myself up being caught off guard despite deep down knowing its a leverage ploy. With that said, I think this will be positive for recruiting long term and very manageable short term.

BK can now say he interviewed and turned down the NFL. Kids will eat that up. Not all but a kid hearing that a top coach at a D1 program whose recruiting them was good enough for the NFL but he said no.

This was exactly what i was thinking
 

irishff1014

Well-known member
Messages
26,509
Reaction score
9,283
At this point it is not a big deal at all. I myself have interviewed for jobs that I really didn't think I would want. Good jobs, arguably a step up from my current job, but I was not really interested in uprooting, etc. But I did those interviews, was offered one of the two jobs and thanked them for the interest, etc. but concluded that I was not interested. During the other interview (the job I was not offered) I point blank told them at the end of the interview, that I wasn't interested in the job anymore. In the end those interviews were uplifting experiences, because I felt zero pressure and they helped me to reaffirm the good things I had going on in my life...things that I wouldn't trade for a few bucks more and bit fancier title.

Perhaps Kelly is doing the same thing. An NFL team is calling, he is mildly interested and flattered. It is a chance to tour a different organization get some insider's insights on what an NFL team is looking for, have a nice meal and then the nice feeling of saying "No thanks, I already have a job and life that I prefer to the one you are offering."

But it isnt a step up. Maybe they give him more money but the eagles jobs is not that good. compared to the one he has now.
 

Junkhead

Community Mod
Messages
7,595
Reaction score
1,354
I'm not really worried that he is leaving, don't think that's the case. I am a bit worried about this messing up the recruiting class.
 

ND4LIFE

Active member
Messages
210
Reaction score
87
Can't lie, I hyped myself up being caught off guard despite deep down knowing its a leverage ploy. With that said, I think this will be positive for recruiting long term and very manageable short term.

BK can now say he interviewed and turned down the NFL. Kids will eat that up. Not all but a kid hearing that a top coach at a D1 program whose recruiting them was good enough for the NFL but he said no.

I like the way you are looking at this! Important to understand how this could be used as a positive tool.

Somebody needs to teach me how to rep!
 

Who'saWildManNow

Bald Prick
Messages
3,863
Reaction score
485
HE DIDN"T LEAVE THE ****ING COUNTRY... :)

In the style of Ivan Drago "If he leaves, he leaves."

He may not want to pass up the opportunity to coach at the highest level and reach the pinnacle of his career. Notre Dame HC is a great job but not considered the "best" by everyone. It is to us of course..

With that said, I am really not that worried, I just think this has been blown way out of proportion.

If he does leave... CHUCKY
 

Green Mountains

Active member
Messages
240
Reaction score
204
At this point it is not a big deal at all. I myself have interviewed for jobs that I really didn't think I would want. Good jobs, arguably a step up from my current job, but I was not really interested in uprooting, etc. But I did those interviews, was offered one of the two jobs and thanked them for the interest, etc. but concluded that I was not interested. During the other interview (the job I was not offered) I point blank told them at the end of the interview, that I wasn't interested in the job anymore. In the end those interviews were uplifting experiences, because I felt zero pressure and they helped me to reaffirm the good things I had going on in my life...things that I wouldn't trade for a few bucks more and bit fancier title.

Perhaps Kelly is doing the same thing. An NFL team is calling, he is mildly interested and flattered. It is a chance to tour a different organization get some insider's insights on what an NFL team is looking for, have a nice meal and then the nice feeling of saying "No thanks, I already have a job and life that I prefer to the one you are offering."

Ding, Ding, Ding

I'm not sure how BK begins to understand the NFL thing without interviewing and showing interest.

Eagles - Coach, we want you to interview for our head coaching position. Any interest?
BK/Agent - I'd love to interview and understand the NFL differences. But let me be clear, I'm not going to take your job at this time.
Eagles - Never mind.

I believe this is the first time that BK has had the exposure and opportunity to discuss an NFL head job. He has to explore and understand it. Talking to friends and colleagues will only go so far. He needs to understand the pros and cons. He understand the pros and cons of head coaching college football, generally, and ND, specifically. Professional football is a complete void in his experience set. He is close with Chip Kelly, I'm sure they are talking. I'd expect he would even reach out to Saban. But I'm not sure if that dick-head would offer anyone his advice. I'm sure Ara is there for him as well.

I don't think he is going anywhere this year. But I think it increases the risk in future years as he: 1) continues to be pursued; and 2) continues to show a great product at ND.

I could be way off base, but I think he would rather have a national title at ND than a head coaching job in the NFL. Any the talent gap to win the national title is not insurmountable.
 
Last edited:

Irish Insanity

Well-known member
Messages
9,885
Reaction score
584
Mike and Mike just made the statement that he's out of the country and will return this weekend to make a decision. I know it's been stated he's not out of the country but the later part would lead one to believe he's been offered and it's his if he wants it. Greenburg was making the statement not Golic. It was made as a headline report as they returned from break not as his opinion. Just seemed odd to me considering I haven't read anywhere that it was his to turn down.
 

OCIrish

Fukk Michigan
Messages
3,280
Reaction score
218
Some people need to stop acting like Butt hurt 12 yr olds who aren't getting their way and throwing a temper tantrum!!! If he leaves, so be it. We'll all watch next season, no matter who the coach is. The NFL is a step up for most coaches, and he'd be a damned fool not to interview or at least see what it's like to interview with an NFL club. Stop crying abiut things that haven't happened yet!
 
K

koonja

Guest
The only way I see BK leaving ND is if after the NC game, he thinks he can never win a NC at ND. I don't think that game discouraged him to that point.

I'll bet he signs an extension with ND by the end of the week.
 

chicago51

Well-known member
Messages
3,658
Reaction score
387
The only way I see BK leaving ND is if after the NC game, he thinks he can never win a NC at ND. I don't think that game discouraged him to that point.

I'll bet he signs an extension with ND by the end of the week.

I lost 90% of vbucks betting on the national championship but I am willing to bet all my vbucks I have left that he signs an extension before national signing day.
 

rtrn2glory

Well-known member
Messages
16,163
Reaction score
6,450
Mike and Mike just made the statement that he's out of the country and will return this weekend to make a decision. I know it's been stated he's not out of the country but the later part would lead one to believe he's been offered and it's his if he wants it. Greenburg was making the statement not Golic. It was made as a headline report as they returned from break not as his opinion. Just seemed odd to me considering I haven't read anywhere that it was his to turn down.

if the EE's are reporting on friday though, wouldn't it make sense for him to be there when they arive??

just a thought.
 

GoldenIsThyFame

Well-known member
Messages
10,899
Reaction score
789
Anzalone tweeted yesterday that today is his last day and he leaves Friday around noon.

Must have missed that. Sapp said when he talked to him on Tuesday he told him that he would be on campus the 13th. He made sure to post it last night so people wouldn't freak out if he wasn't there Saturday.

I kept waiting for him to say something on Twitter last night but he never did. He was on though, just look at his "Favorites."
 
Last edited:
G

Grahambo

Guest
Must have missed that. Sapp said when he talked to him on Tuesday he told him that he would be on campus the 13th. He made sure to post it last night so people wouldn't freak out if he wasn't there Saturday.

Could be taking a day or two road trip I guess. Maybe seeing family on the way out.
 

Who'saWildManNow

Bald Prick
Messages
3,863
Reaction score
485
Some people need to stop acting like Butt hurt 12 yr olds who aren't getting their way and throwing a temper tantrum!!! If he leaves, so be it. We'll all watch next season, no matter who the coach is. The NFL is a step up for most coaches, and he'd be a damned fool not to interview or at least see what it's like to interview with an NFL club. Stop crying abiut things that haven't happened yet!

Agreed.
 
Top