Biden Presidency

[Blazers46]

Because there is zero proof he “took” money, beyond accusations by disgruntled former govt. employees who were fired for participation in Jan 6 or by an unregistered agent for the Chinese government who dabbled in illegal foreign arms sales. Accusations without proof are just accusations.

What discredits the IRS whistleblowers?

 

[ulukinatme]

Actually that's wrong. The March figures were in the pandemic and reflect transfer payments and layoffs that skewed real wages higher due to compositional effects (layed off workers made less so wages looked higher with them out of the work force). Biden was comparing to jan/Feb 2020 which are in fact lower than current real wages.

The Twitter Debate About Biden's Wages Claim - FactCheck.org

A reader's note temporarily attached by Twitter to a claim by President Joe Biden -- that "real wages for the average American worker is higher than it was before the pandemic" -- said that statement "contains a factual error." But it turns out it doesn't.

www.factcheck.org

Turns out the FCC proposed the suicide hotline change under Trump but the change was made under Biden (and funding was increased by him).

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It's splitting hairs. They say using March data isn't accurate, but the WHO didn't even declare it a pandemic until mid March and we were behind many countries initially when it came to the spread of the virus. It also goes on to say while the real wages may be just slightly higher adjusted for inflation, real weekly earnings are down 3.5%. I like how their sources include a White House advisor along with a former financial adviser to Obama. The point is Biden is touting his great economic advancements when in fact his "Bidenomics" are not that super after inflation. At best they're basically on par with what would be expected.

As far as the suicide hotline, Trump is the one that signed it into law, it wasn't Joe's name on the line. Biden taking credit for it isn't much different than when he said he had a plan to end the pandemic...and that plan involved nothing different than implementing the vaccine Trump pushed through...or when he ended Trump's executive order to cap Insulin prices for Medicare patients and adopted it as his own.

 

[Armyirish47]

It's splitting hairs. They say using March data isn't accurate, but the WHO didn't even declare it a pandemic until mid March and we were behind many countries initially when it came to the spread of the virus. It also goes on to say while the real wages may be just slightly higher adjusted for inflation, real weekly earnings are down 3.5%. I like how their sources include a White House advisor along with a former financial adviser to Obama. The point is Biden is touting his great economic advancements when in fact his "Bidenomics" are not that super after inflation. At best they're basically on par with what would be expected.

As far as the suicide hotline, Trump is the one that signed it into law, it wasn't Joe's name on the line. Biden taking credit for it isn't much different than when he said he had a plan to end the pandemic...and that plan involved nothing different than implementing the vaccine Trump pushed through...or when he ended Trump's executive order to cap Insulin prices for Medicare patients and adopted it as his own.

We've gone from disgraceful to determining whether or not "before" includes the 10 days of the month declared by an organization that would assuredly not be trusted for anything else in a conversation as hair splitting.

Progress!

 

[PerthDomer]

It's splitting hairs. They say using March data isn't accurate, but the WHO didn't even declare it a pandemic until mid March and we were behind many countries initially when it came to the spread of the virus. It also goes on to say while the real wages may be just slightly higher adjusted for inflation, real weekly earnings are down 3.5%. I like how their sources include a White House advisor along with a former financial adviser to Obama. The point is Biden is touting his great economic advancements when in fact his "Bidenomics" are not that super after inflation. At best they're basically on par with what would be expected.

As far as the suicide hotline, Trump is the one that signed it into law, it wasn't Joe's name on the line. Biden taking credit for it isn't much different than when he said he had a plan to end the pandemic...and that plan involved nothing different than implementing the vaccine Trump pushed through...or when he ended Trump's executive order to cap Insulin prices for Medicare patients and adopted it as his own.

Furman has been negative in regards to a lot of Biden policy. A lot of the econ guys are just technocrats centrists. He also points out real wages are far below trend.

The article explains why March numbers were screwy. By March Wall Street knew we were screwed on the pandemic and many companies were announcing layoffs prior to the huge waves hitting here. It's why the fed went into emergency action early and what forced Trump to actually address COVID. Every day he ignored it the market dripped on jitters we weren't taking the pandemic seriously.

COVID-19 ends longest employment recovery and expansion in CES history, causing unprecedented job losses in 2020 : Monthly Labor Review : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

www.bls.gov

"In March, nonfarm employment fell by 1.7 million, a loss only surpassed by a 1945 employment decline that came as the country demobilized after World War II" So yea, March vs Feb is a big deal.

 

[drayer54]

How is it we aren't impeaching Biden for taking Ukrainian money when Trump was impeached for asking about it on a phone call?

House oversight has pretty well laid out a damning case, but most of our media can't be bothered to follow it. I suspect we're days away from "Of course, Joe was in business with Hunter; it's because he is a loving father, and why would anyone be bothered by any of this? Did they make a ton of money? Sure! but PPP loans"

That's my prediction

 

[Blazers46]

House oversight has pretty well laid out a damning case, but most of our media can't be bothered to follow it. I suspect we're days away from "Of course, Joe was in business with Hunter; it's because he is a loving father, and why would anyone be bothered by any of this? Did they make a ton of money? Sure! but PPP loans"

That's my prediction

The fascinating part is if and when Biden doesn’t poll well they have this in their back pocket.

 

[drayer54]

The brazenness of the Biden’s corruption is amazing to me.

 

[GATTACA!]

And?

 

[drayer54]

And?

Return of principled norms.

 

[Irish#1]

So Joe wants Texas to remove the floating barrier, while this is still in place.

 

[Irish#1]

Because there is zero proof he “took” money, beyond accusations by disgruntled former govt. employees who were fired for participation in Jan 6 or by an unregistered agent for the Chinese government who dabbled in illegal foreign arms sales. Accusations without proof are just accusations.

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I seem to remember that when Orange man was in office, you were pumping gas on the Russia collusion fire as fast as you could and they were only accusations.

 

[drayer54]

We’re shifting from Joe never talked business with Hunter to they didn’t do business together.

 

[drayer54]

Because there is zero proof he “took” money, beyond accusations by disgruntled former govt. employees who were fired for participation in Jan 6 or by an unregistered agent for the Chinese government who dabbled in illegal foreign arms sales. Accusations without proof are just accusations.

So the whistleblowers are Qanon and Hunter is just an amazing artist and businessman? The proof Joe was in the room is just Russian disinformation? The former business partners are Chinese?

You’re at the level of partisan hack that you’re willing to deny any level of proof at this point.

 

[PerthDomer]

So Joe wants Texas to remove the floating barrier, while this is still in place.

The federal government conducts foreign policy and sets border policy. That's pretty clear in the law. So yes, it makes sense to sue a state trying to edge onto federal turf.

 

[GoIrish41]

So the whistleblowers are Qanon and Hunter is just an amazing artist and businessman? The proof Joe was in the room is just Russian disinformation? The former business partners are Chinese?

You’re at the level of partisan hack that you’re willing to deny any level of proof at this point.

Someone making an accusation isn’t proof, dummy.

Where are the “17 recordings” that prove Joe’s involvement? Nowhere! They don’t exist. Where are the incriminating e-mails that prove Joe’s involvement … you know, the ones from Hunter’s laptop. I’ve not seen one bit of proof and neither have you. What you have seen are unverified wild accusations by partisan hacks that Joe was involved in a crime and you took them at their word because you desperately want them to be true. You are the partisan hack. You are repeating disproven talking points from faux news, which is embroiled in a wave of lawsuits for lying to their stupid viewers … like you. Provide actual proof or stfu.

 

[ulukinatme]

The federal government conducts foreign policy and sets border policy. That's pretty clear in the law. So yes, it makes sense to sue a state trying to edge onto federal turf.

They may set border policy, but they do a shitty job of enforcing it. Hence why some states have to take matters into their own hands.

 

[PerthDomer]

They may set border policy, but they do a shitty job of enforcing it. Hence why some states have to take matters into their own hands.

Ignore the party doing this. Eventually we'll have another party in charge. Do you want california declaring they dislike the border patrol and kick them out?

You also have to worry about foreign policy vis a vis Mexico. Maybe this marginally decreases crossings, but what if Mexico retaliated by making all the people waiting there for a visa hearing cross at once? We really rely on Mexican cooperation to make our border work and you want one government conducting foreign policy.

 

[drayer54]

Someone making an accusation isn’t proof, dummy?

Where are the “17 recordings” that prove Joe’s involvement? Nowhere! They don’t exist. Where are the incriminating e-mails that prove Joe’s involvement … you know, the ones from Hunter’s laptop. I’ve not seen one bit of proof and neither have you. What you have seen are unverified wild accusations by partisan hacks that Joe was involved in a crime and you took them at their word because you desperately want them to be true. You are the partisan hack. You are repeating disproven talking points from faux news, which is embroiled in a wave of lawsuits for lying to their stupid viewers … like you. Provide actual proof or stfu.

He puts Joe in the room for a shakedown. The big guy got his cut and has lied to the people about his involvement. He lied about the laptop being Russian disinformation and lied about not being involved. You have people who worked with Hunter connecting the dots and the whistleblowers showing how the DoJ slow walked and dismissed his investigation. We also have a 50 year old crackhead picking up a paintbrush and selling his work for a million dollars to people randomly getting Presidential appointments. He’s better than Picasso to some donors. No big deal.

 

[RDU Irish]

Someone making an accusation isn’t proof, dummy?

Where are the “17 recordings” that prove Joe’s involvement? Nowhere! They don’t exist. Where are the incriminating e-mails that prove Joe’s involvement … you know, the ones from Hunter’s laptop. I’ve not seen one bit of proof and neither have you. What you have seen are unverified wild accusations by partisan hacks that Joe was involved in a crime and you took them at their word because you desperately want them to be true. You are the partisan hack. You are repeating disproven talking points from faux news, which is embroiled in a wave of lawsuits for lying to their stupid viewers … like you. Provide actual proof or stfu.

Everything Trump is accused of is 150% true. Everything Biden is accused of is 150% false. Derp.

Trump got impeached for just talking to Ukraine about corruption. The system revolted against a phone call in the right direction. You took it all hook line and sinker like a naive sucker and now we are supposed to act like your opinion on integrity, as a complete proven rube, means anything. LOLOLOOLOLLOLLOL - what a peckerhead. Oh and have yet to admit the Russia hoax. LOL

 

[ulukinatme]

Ignore the party doing this. Eventually we'll have another party in charge. Do you want california declaring they dislike the border patrol and kick them out?

You also have to worry about foreign policy vis a vis Mexico. Maybe this marginally decreases crossings, but what if Mexico retaliated by making all the people waiting there for a visa hearing cross at once? We really rely on Mexican cooperation to make our border work and you want one government conducting foreign policy.

It's in California's best interest not to kick out border patrol. California suffers from water shortages in areas as well as periodic blackout issues in some cities. I can't see an influx of people alleviating those issues.

Mexico last year committed $1.5 billion to help manage migrants at the Southern Border. It is in their best interest to work with us to know who is coming and going between both countries. While the numbers are down slightly for May as far as border encounters, we've still been seeing record numbers as of at least January of this year, and those are the ones we know about. This was after a relatively low period from 2010-2021. I don't want one government conducting foreign policy, I'd rather both sides secure their borders. Right now the job isn't getting done sufficiently, and that's the whole reason some states have tried to step up where the federal government has failed.

 

[RDU Irish]

GoIrish41 places negative a trillion odds on any foul play in Martha's Vineyard chef drowning and probably thinks Epstein killed himself but Trump is a Russian asset.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I want to announce a REALLY big opportunity for someone here. I'll be appointing the very desirable job of head of the decorating committee for Halloween in my hometown this year. I'm also offering for sale this exquisite bit of abstract art done by my youngest daughter when she was in preschool. There's no connection between these two announcements.

 

[GoIrish41]

Everything Trump is accused of is 150% true. Everything Biden is accused of is 150% false. Derp.

Trump got impeached for just talking to Ukraine about corruption. The system revolted against a phone call in the right direction. You took it all hook line and sinker like a naive sucker and now we are supposed to act like your opinion on integrity, as a complete proven rube, means anything. LOLOLOOLOLLOLLOL - what a peckerhead. Oh and have yet to admit the Russia hoax. LOL

There is enough evidence for three ongoing criminal indictments against Trump. How much “evidence” is there against Biden? Let’s see it. I don’t care about the accusations, I want to see proof. And every time you are pressed for it, you make some innocuous comment about my bias but still not a scrap of proof. Why has Biden not been indicted? Why do I keep hearing about phantom recordings that prove he is taking bribes but nobody has actually heard them? Trump’s own staff testified against him, not political rivals. It’s his voice on tapes that have been heard by all of us committing and/or acknowledging his crimes. Trump got impeached for trying to blackmail a foreign leader to smear Biden and sway the American election. But the GOP leadership let it slide to retain their power. They count on the dumbass base to spend their credibility defending the indefensible. Your account has been tapped out for quite some time.

 

[drayer54]

Someone from Latham & Watkins (Hunter Biden's attorneys) called the court pretending to be a lawyer for the House GOP to get an amicus filing withdrawn

 

[drayer54]

Why has Biden not been indicted?

Why was the investigation slow-walked for Hunter?
Why did the FBI sit on the fact they knew the laptop was real when Joe and the "experts" were lying about it?
Why did Hunter get a sweet plea deal?
Why did the FBI sit on the bribery allegations?
Because we have two systems of justice, it works just fine if you're Trump. Trump may deserve it. Not for the Russia lies, but because of the other dumb stuff he surely did. Trump's raids get leaked. Biden's garage? We’re smart enough to figure out how to find cocaine sharks, but the mystery of who turned our most secure building in the country into a crackhouse is just too complex.
The DoJ has two standards; that's why he hasn't been indicted.

 

[GoIrish41]

Why was the investigation slow-walked for Hunter?

Not saying it was or wasn’t. I’m saying I’m not taking the word of one guy with nothing more than his say-so, the anonymous corroborators notwithstanding.

Why did the FBI sit on the fact they knew the laptop was real when Joe and the "experts" were lying about it?

Why did Hunter get a sweet plea deal?

Why didn’t Kushner even get questioned about the 2 billion dollar loan he got just after leaving the White House from the Saudi’s? Because the relatives of politically connected and powerful get special treatment. Clearly Hunter made money off his name. So did Billy Carter and a few children of a recent president. I’ve said all along that if he’s guilty throw his ass in jail. It’s a pretty big leap from there to Joe took $10 million in bribes from Ukraine with nothing to go on but say so one guy nobody ever heard of.

Why did the FBI sit on the bribery allegations?

Because there was no evidence to back up the allegations. Which is kind of my point.

Because we have two systems of justice, it works just fine if you're Trump.

If you think the two parties are what divides the justice system into tiers, you are missing the big picture. Poor people do not get the sweet plea deals no matter who they vote for.

Trump may deserve it.

He does.

Not for the Russia lies, but because of the other dumb stuff he surely did.

Not exclusively about the Russia election assistance and lying about his business deals there, but not not about that either. But there is such a mountain of corruption on his watch that it’s hard to fit it under one hat. He’s been indicted for three separate criminal cases in three jurisdictions, at least two of which there exists publicly available audio of him admitting to his crimes, and the other him being recorded actually committing them. The real flaw in our DOJ is that it has taken so long for this case to grind through the system (largely due to accommodations to and delaying tactics by Trump’s legal team(s).

Trump's raids get leaked.

Leaked by Trump … in near real time. 😂

Biden's garage?

Documents turned over without incident or complaint … documents found in a search initiated by Biden. If only Trump didn’t step on his own dick so much.

The DoJ has two standards; that's why he hasn't been indicted.

See above.

 

[GATTACA!]

Documents turned over without incident or complaint … documents found in a search initiated by Biden. If only Trump didn’t step on his own dick so much.

No there’s clearly a double standard. Look how Pence was treated for doing the same exact thing as Biden……….err wait.

 

[Irish#1]

lol........After the ruckus with Trump having documents, what choices did Biden and Pence have but to turn them over asap? No, it wasn't on the level of Trump, but they shouldn't have had them in the first place.

 

[Irish#1]

Joe's needs to do something about his dogs and as usual, blames it on something else.

White House blames ‘stressful environment’ for first dog’s bite spree

President Biden’s German shepherd bit at least seven Secret Service members — sending one to the hospital.

nypost.com

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/25/1189957208/biden-dog-commander-bites-secret-service-agents

 

[GoIrish41]

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I seem to remember that when Orange man was in office, you were pumping gas on the Russia collusion fire as fast as you could and they were only accusations.

I read the Mueller report that layed out Russian election interference in sweeping and systemic fashion and detailed collaboration between the Trump campaign and Russia, which the campaign and candidate strenuously denied in a fit of lies as he attempted to discredit the findings and obstructed investigations into them. I concluded, as anyone without brain damage or stubborn cultish inclinations might have, that the accusations were and are true. Nothing has moved me off of that position. And frankly, if our system would have worked, justice would have been forthcoming and we would all have been spared the massive damage that Trump inflicted on the country and our society.