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Less corrupt, not supported by white nationalists, not an international embarrassment, doesn't whine and bitch about how everything and everyone is out to get him, didn't put tariffs impacting my local economy, overall just less bad than the historic embarrassment that followed him previously.

Are those simple enough terms? Look up at BB for an intelligent response.

You are now free to continue discussing far out conspiracies about diaries or whatever else.

This is so humorous. While you may not find him an international embarrassment, others certainly do. He also whines and bitches about how "everything happens to him," and he has taken zero responsibility for his failures. My local economy was better off under the last guy, and polling indicates many agree with me. Less corrupt... lol.

NATO is a damn joke, and Trump did it best there, especially with the Germans. Biden's handling of Ukraine... Austin's handling of Ukraine has been good but a bit slow. Slow to enact sanctions in the beginning and slow to get big bad weapons in the right spot. The HIMARS progress lately is awesome.

Biden is also supported by the thousands of blatantly racist tweets directed at Justice Thomas lately and nobody on the left seems to care.
 

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The problem is Trump got into office bc people were turned off by how divisive and one sided Obama was and how blind cult like his voters seemed,… not so much bc he was a good candidate,… then other people voted Biden into office bc how divisive and childish Trump was and how blind cult like his supporters came off to them,… and now here we are. Strong odds that this constant tit for tat will continue to not work out. I mean if we can’t even agree on this admins’ clear failings then yeah,… good luck. We really need an adult to step up, stop with this one sided divide and conquer party line driven crap that been so dominant over the last 15 plus years and push forth common sense policy to fix real problems that our gov has a large hand in creating in the first place instead of doubling down on previous failures. This is probably all wishful on my part thinking but yeah,… that’s where I’m at.
Trump won because the incompetent dems somehow picked the one candidate that was more hated than Donald. Amazing thing is they almost did it twice and running Biden again will be 3/3. If they had picked anyone under 70 with an ounce of charisma they would have gotten 350+ electors. The dirty secret is that they don’t give a shit. They’d rather lose than nominate someone that will cause any fundamental change.

Instead of actually trying to solve issues that people care about like healthcare, wealth inequality, or mass incarceration they’d rather campaign on open ended vague social shit like racism or trans rights that they can fear monger about and never have to “solve”.

The two party system and for profit news orgs are destroying this country.
 

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Trump won because the incompetent dems somehow picked the one candidate that was more hated than Donald. Amazing thing is they almost did it twice and running Biden again will be 3/3. If they had picked anyone under 70 with an ounce of charisma they would have gotten 350+ electors. The dirty secret is that they don’t give a shit. They’d rather lose than nominate someone that will cause any fundamental change.

Instead of actually trying to solve issues that people care about like healthcare, wealth inequality, or mass incarceration they’d rather campaign on open ended vague social shit like racism or trans rights that they can fear monger about and never have to “solve”.

The two party system and for profit news orgs are destroying this country.
Agree with pretty much all but question the bolded. Was Trump really hated before taking office? I think Trump won because he wasn't part of the political machine at the time. In a way, Trump had the opportunity to blow up the two party system that we are accustomed to and open the door for other non-politicians to win the primaries. I still believe he would have won a second term if he just acted more presidential to the public.
 

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Agree with pretty much all but question the bolded. Was Trump really hated before taking office? I think Trump won because he wasn't part of the political machine at the time. In a way, Trump had the opportunity to blow up the two party system that we are accustomed to and open the door for other non-politicians to win the primaries. I still believe he would have won a second term if he just acted more presidential to the public.
His comments about "grabbing them by the p****" certainly caused a fair amount of hatred. I can't remember what all was going on during the 2016 election but it was enough to make me vote for the Independent candidate for the first time in my life.

Obviously things got ratcheted up during Trump's first term that increased the hatred level significantly in the general public.

Right now it seems like the only way that the Republicans could screw things up is if Trump would somehow get the nomination. I'm hoping that his current flirtation with the concept is just an effort to keep his name in the media and feed his ego. Doesn't hurt that it probably increases the fees he can charge for speaking engagements in the meantime.
 
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Agree with pretty much all but question the bolded. Was Trump really hated before taking office? I think Trump won because he wasn't part of the political machine at the time. In a way, Trump had the opportunity to blow up the two party system that we are accustomed to and open the door for other non-politicians to win the primaries. I still believe he would have won a second term if he just acted more presidential to the public.
Yeah everyone (rightfully) hated both.

 

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Anyone else shocked the Canadian who elects the blackface lockdown douche finds Biden "not an international embarrassment". LOL - you folks living with legalized weed are a trip. Welcome back Buster, I mean, Bilbo.

Trump's Ukraine policy seems superior to me - don't embolden Putin to invade in the first place. Then again $50B (or whatever we are up to) to Ukraine seems like pretty good ROI on the those paychecks to Hunter over the years. But Trump is the bad guy for pressuring the corrupt SOBs to squeal. And telling Germany to make long term US LNG deals instead of sucking at the Russian teat - how is Trump not being proven correct in real time on that one? Great move strengthening NATO, Joe - just needed to get them firmly under Putin's boot and then they would all band together!

Anyone else see the Pedo Pete title Hunter gave Joe in his contacts?
 

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Not sure "not an international embarrassment" is accurate. The withdrawal from Afghanistan was an embarrassment as other countries were forced to scramble to take in refugees. Not to mention we (U.S.) were not prepared to take in refugees, particularly the ones who had been assisting our government. IIRC we ended up leaving some behind. All Biden had to do was say we're leaving, but push the date back, but they wanted to hit that deadline for publicity. Turns out he got the publicity, just not the type he thought he would get. The submarine deal also didn't set well with a number of countries, especially France.

If Joe blaming everyone else isn't bitching and whining, what is it? He was emphatic that "The buck stops here", yet he continues to blame everyone else when things don't go as planned. COVID and gas prices are two good examples.

I give Joe a B on Ukraine.
Agreed on Afghanistan. They dropped the ball big time.

The submarine deal with Australia could've been handled better but is still a major win for the US. France has always had dreams of being a world power, and they are not. It's one thing to tinker around West Africa, but the US is going to lead the way in Asia and in Europe. Ukraine shows that.

Blinken gets an A from me on Ukraine.
 

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Anyone else shocked the Canadian who elects the blackface lockdown douche finds Biden "not an international embarrassment". LOL - you folks living with legalized weed are a trip. Welcome back Buster, I mean, Bilbo.

Trump's Ukraine policy seems superior to me - don't embolden Putin to invade in the first place. Then again $50B (or whatever we are up to) to Ukraine seems like pretty good ROI on the those paychecks to Hunter over the years. But Trump is the bad guy for pressuring the corrupt SOBs to squeal. And telling Germany to make long term US LNG deals instead of sucking at the Russian teat - how is Trump not being proven correct in real time on that one? Great move strengthening NATO, Joe - just needed to get them firmly under Putin's boot and then they would all band together!

Anyone else see the Pedo Pete title Hunter gave Joe in his contacts?
Therapy works wonders.
 

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I will chime in and say without COVID Trump would have beat any democratic candidate pretty easily.

I will also add if there was any election that I would have ever felt was "rigged" it was this last one. A perfect storm for the democratic party.

Trump was running against fake Russian collusion and handling of COVID that the dems themselves flip flopped on just as much, if not more, than Trump. Along with a fired up BLM base that was free to pillage the country with democratic approval.

Biden was just hiding in the basement.

I knew Trump was going to lose the moment Chris Wallace randomly asked Trump to condemn white supremacy while BLM and Antifa was literally holding city blocks and police departments hostage. He prefaced the question "You have continually criticized Biden for not condemning Antifa or BLM" but then turn the tables and asked him to condemn white supremacy. I thought that was the most insane moment of both debates. Biden then just simply says Antifa isn't really a group so I don't have to condemn anything. Wallace asked like he was the first one to ever ask.
 

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10% for the big guy.


Been a busy week for Biden. There was that gem, the teleprompter gaff, and now Hunter is causing more problems for the President again.



How does one get the nickname "Pedo Peter" from their own son? And liberals didn't like "Let's Go Brandon!" It's almost funny that Trump's family was given a bad rap, you could put them all together and they wouldn't touch some of the stuff Hunter's done: loads of illegal drugs, tens of thousands to prostitutes at a time, plenty of his own shady business deals...

 

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I will chime in and say without COVID Trump would have beat any democratic candidate pretty easily.

I will also add if there was any election that I would have ever felt was "rigged" it was this last one. A perfect storm for the democratic party.

Trump was running against fake Russian collusion and handling of COVID that the dems themselves flip flopped on just as much, if not more, than Trump. Along with a fired up BLM base that was free to pillage the country with democratic approval.

Biden was just hiding in the basement.

I knew Trump was going to lose the moment Chris Wallace randomly asked Trump to condemn white supremacy while BLM and Antifa was literally holding city blocks and police departments hostage. He prefaced the question "You have continually criticized Biden for not condemning Antifa or BLM" but then turn the tables and asked him to condemn white supremacy. I thought that was the most insane moment of both debates. Biden then just simply says Antifa isn't really a group so I don't have to condemn anything. Wallace asked like he was the first one to ever ask.
If Covid never happened, Trump wins 2020 decisively against any Dem. If Covid never happened and Trump didn't have Twitter, 2020 would have been a landslide.
 

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If Covid never happened, Trump wins 2020 decisively against any Dem. If Covid never happened and Trump didn't have Twitter, 2020 would have been a landslide.
I keep seeing this sentiment thrown around and I really have no clue where this idea is coming from or if it's some weird pre 2024 gaslighting.

Trumps RCP polling average on Jan 1 before the first case of covid in the US was 51.9% negative to 44.6 positive.

If you look at Trump vs Biden favorability numbers Trump was never even close during his whole presidency. Ironically the closest he got (≈ -3) was in the months after the covid breakout began.

Washington Post poll from 1/29/2019
The survey found that 56 percent of all respondents would “definitely not vote for” Trump to be reelected, compared with 28 percent who said they would “definitely” vote for Trump and 14 percent who said they would consider voting for him. Majorities of key demographics for Trump’s reelection hopes — women, suburbanites and independents — also ruled out voting for him in 2020.

NBC/WSJ from 7/14/2019
President Donald Trump lags behind all the top Democratic 2020 contenders with his job approval rating under water at 45%, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

Former Vice President Joe Biden currently leads Trump by 9 points, the widest margin among the top four Democratic contenders. That’s well outside the poll’s margin of error of 3.5 percentage points.

Biden’s large lead over Trump is largely thanks to his performance among potential tossup voters. He has a 6-point advantage among suburbanites and a 4-point lead among independents, according to NBC.

Sen. Bernie Sanders leads Trump by 7 points and Sen. Elizabeth Warren has a 5-point advantage over the president. Sen. Kamala Harris, on the other hand, is locked in a dead heat with Trump.

Fox News 12/15/2019
About half of registered voters say that President Donald Trump should be removed from office and that if he survives the impeachment effort, he'll have a tough time beating the Democratic candidate in the 2020 election, according to a FOX News poll released Sunday.

The poll was conducted Dec. 8-11, a week before the House is to vote on articles of impeachment against Trump.

The poll found that 50% of registered voters say Trump should be impeached in the House, convicted in the Senate and removed from office. Forty-one percent say the House should vote against impeaching the president and 4% say he should be impeached but not removed from office. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
 

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Those numbers may have been impacted by the Russian collusion hoax. You think?
Doesn’t really matter if you think it was a hoax or not. That was the reality of the situation and anyone claiming that Trump was waltzing to a second term if it weren’t for Covid are either being wishful or misremembering.
 

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As hundreds of videos of Hunter cracked out naked with hookers are hitting the internet, and emails from Joe Biden using an alias of Peter or Peter-Pedo to Hunter surface. Yet another wonderful Biden moment that soothes the soul of our nation.

We all know the media would be equally patient with Melania, and CNN wouldn't have naked Donald Trump Jr coming down the waterslide on repeat 20 hours a day.



 

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I keep seeing this sentiment thrown around and I really have no clue where this idea is coming from or if it's some weird pre 2024 gaslighting.

Trumps RCP polling average on Jan 1 before the first case of covid in the US was 51.9% negative to 44.6 positive.

If you look at Trump vs Biden favorability numbers Trump was never even close during his whole presidency. Ironically the closest he got (≈ -3) was in the months after the covid breakout began.

Washington Post poll from 1/29/2019


NBC/WSJ from 7/14/2019


Fox News 12/15/2019
Easy. Look at the state of our republic prior to Covid.

Economy was strong
Unemployment was low
Median wages were rising
Home ownership was rising
Inflation was low
Gas prices were low
Stock market was on fire

After 2016 and 2020 I could give two shits about polling. I care about the economy as priority number one as do most voters.
 

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Easy. Look at the state of our republic prior to Covid.

Economy was strong
Unemployment was low
Median wages were rising
Home ownership was rising
Inflation was low
Gas prices were low
Stock market was on fire

After 2016 and 2020 I could give two shits about polling. I care about the economy as priority number one as do most voters.

LOL - Gattica is talking like Biden won in a landslide and says "if you think it was a hoax or not"... If you still cannot admit Trump Russia collusion was a complete hoax your opinion has zero credibility anywhere. I mean, I get the gullibility of falling for that crap in the first place and MAYBE the inability to see/admit how much of the rhetoric is straight projection---- but to still debate the validity of RUSSIA COLLUSION!! - just sad. Toronto still can't admit it either - you TDS sufferers are something else.

As for the revisionist history on the 2020 election - 2020 presidential election results
EV totals - 306 for Biden, 232 for Trump - 37 EV separate them
PA - 81,660 votes for 20 EVs
AZ - 10,457 votes for 11 EVs
MI - 154,188 for 16 EVs
GA - 11,779 for 16 EVs
WI - 20,682 for 10 EVs
NC - 74,483 for 15 EVs (I am 90% certain NC would have been next to flip if "needed" - no way 10% of Trump voters also voted for Cooper)

Philly has locked down PA forever - I have no doubt the machine there would make Mayor Richard Daley blush but the mail in fiasco there was to make sure it wasn't close.

Having personally witnessed voter fraud in Milwaukee in 2000 when I lived there - I am sure they have only gotten better at it and there is no reason Detroit/Atlanta/Phoenix/Philly can't share notes to get the same results. There is a reason common sense election integrity measures are vehemently opposed by certain factions.

AZ, GA and WI (37 EVs) were only 42k votes away from making DJT a two term president but there was "no way" Trump could win and COVID/Russia collusion/tanking Hunter's laptop had zero impact on the result? Mail-in ballots scattered across the countryside - no way that could have been abused. Drop boxes? 1000 mules? CONSPIRACY NUTS!!

Its all BS - show up on election day and show ID with absentee available for a real reason other than b/c I say so. Make it a national holiday FFS. Why is one side so afraid of this? Why do people need a full month to vote? If you can't be bothered to show up on election day GFY.
 

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You all surprised these videos are coming out lol. Hunter is a piece of trash and always has been.

I like I said I know a lot of people from Delaware and some of them have very good political ties and they all say the only good Biden is Beau (the one that died).
 

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Gattica is talking like Biden won in a landslide
No I didn’t. My numbers were national favorability stats, not projections of electors. People keep saying without Covid Trump was going to win in a landslide. I posted stats showing there’s no reason to believe that because he was already behind pre Covid.
and says "if you think it was a hoax or not"
Yes because Russia being a hoax or not has nothing to do with the argument. First it was Trump was going to win 2020 in a landslide without Covid. Once I point out that it isn’t true. The goalpost move to blaming the Russian hoax.
 

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Trumpet has the Russia Hoax, Covid and BLM/antifa rioting the streets.

Biden was napping in his basement while people seemed to not care about him bragging about shutting off American oil while the media and FBI were playing cover for him and Hunter. Media gave Trump so much negative attention there was no way anyone was ever going to vote "for" Biden... just "against" Trump.

Chris Wallace and other media was clamoring for Trump to call out white supremacy while BLM and Antifa were the ones holding city blocks and police stations hostage... Biden didn't have to condemn any rioting by BLM or Antifa while his colleagues encouraged it.

I voted for Trump. He is an ass and can be embarassing but we would be better off today than with Biden.
 

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No I didn’t. My numbers were national favorability stats, not projections of electors. People keep saying without Covid Trump was going to win in a landslide. I posted stats showing there’s no reason to believe that because he was already behind pre Covid.

Yes because Russia being a hoax or not has nothing to do with the argument. First it was Trump was going to win 2020 in a landslide without Covid. Once I point out that it isn’t true. The goalpost move to blaming the Russian hoax.
Trump was projected to get slaughtered but Clinton. I think its very safe to say Trump has always been a nightmare for pollsters.

Trump would have won if not for Covid. I will move the posts back.
 

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Trump was projected to get slaughtered but Clinton. I think its very safe to say Trump has always been a nightmare for pollsters.

Trump would have won if not for Covid. I will move the posts back.
I think he would've won. But I can't see any possibility that it would've been a landslide.
 

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Easy. Look at the state of our republic prior to Covid.

Economy was strong
Unemployment was low
Median wages were rising
Home ownership was rising
Inflation was low
Gas prices were low
Stock market was on fire

So was it Covid or Biden that fucked it all up?
 

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So was it Covid or Biden that fucked it all up?
I would say COVID started the slide but the Biden administration enabled the downward trend to pick up speed. IMO, the shutdowns lit the fuse and then handing out “free” money exacerbated the situation. Many folks were pushing for a $15 minimum wage and although that’s not the federal minimum wage, it has become a pretty common wage in many industries. The inflation has pretty much wiped that out and those prices we had just a few months ago? They’re not coming back.
 

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I would say COVID started the slide but the Biden administration enabled the downward trend to pick up speed. IMO, the shutdowns lit the fuse and then handing out “free” money exacerbated the situation. Many folks were pushing for a $15 minimum wage and although that’s not the federal minimum wage, it has become a pretty common wage in many industries. The inflation has pretty much wiped that out and those prices we had just a few months ago? They’re not coming back.
That’s weird my check had Donald Trump’s name signed on it.
 

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That’s weird my check had Donald Trump’s name signed on it.
Not weird at all, the first two rounds were from the Trump Administration, the last round came under Biden. My understanding is that the third round was the largest and almost equal to the first two rounds combined.
 

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"End of quote. Repeat the line."

Holy $#!÷ he's a moron. It's like Weekend At Bernie's and Dumb & Dumber had a lovechild together.
 

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"End of quote. Repeat the line."

Holy $#!÷ he's a moron. It's like Weekend At Bernie's and Dumb & Dumber had a lovechild together.

You're going to love googling Trump's teleprompter highlights too, I assume. Fair and balanced as you are. He had the best words, the very best words. Believe me. People are saying.
 
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