Biden Presidency

[tussin]

Because the cross-section of posters remaining gives us insight into answer the question of why so many people have been run off and/or decided to leave the politics on this site, especially now that Trump is out. The threads are also hidden. I'm not an alumnus but the posters remaining are not very representative of Notre Dame fans and alums on the whole. Add in 500 ND fans and things would look a lot different.

Your past few posts have made it clear that you operate under a self-prescribed elitist worldview wherein every alum from Notre Dame (or any other university that you respect) aligns perfectly with your own politics and reads the NYT front-to-back, nodding eagerly with each Jamelle Bouie op-ed. But really, you have no idea who are alumni on this board or any insight on the representative politics of ND alumni (let alone the national fanbase!!!!).

People post on political boards specifically to debate other posters opposing viewpoints. That's the whole point. Maybe you should consider the possibility that the reason most posters have disengaged from this board is because of people like you who post with a lethal combination of extreme bias, condescension, and, as you say, "little insight."

 

[Sea Turtle]

Is it six whole people now? Wow, major congratulations on all the success!

A hidden thread on a Notre Dame message board with very likely zero alums from the few still posting in it…yeah wonderful bellwether for politics. Another keen observation!

Seven

 

[Rocket89]

Your past few posts have made it clear that you operate under a self-prescribed elitist worldview wherein every alum from Notre Dame (or any other university that you respect) aligns perfectly with your own politics and read the NYT front-to-back, nodding eagerly with each Jamelle Bouie op-ed. But really, you have no idea who are alumni on this board or any insight on the representative politics of ND alumni (let alone the national fanbase!!!!).

People post on political boards specifically to debate other posters opposing viewpoints. That's the whole point. Maybe you should consider the possibility that the reason most posters have disengaged from this board is because of people like you who post with a lethal combination of extreme bias, condescension, and, as you say, "little insight."

Oh no, claims that I'm just a super big lefty with extreme bias. How shocking you'd take that route!

I've read this room fucking perfectly.

 

[TorontoGold]

Your past few posts have made it clear that you operate under a self-prescribed elitist worldview wherein every alum from Notre Dame (or any other university that you respect) aligns perfectly with your own politics and read the NYT front-to-back, nodding eagerly with each Jamelle Bouie op-ed. But really, you have no idea who are alumni on this board or any insight on the representative politics of ND alumni (let alone the national fanbase!!!!).

People post on political boards specifically to debate other posters opposing viewpoints. That's the whole point. Maybe you should consider the possibility that the reason most posters have disengaged from this board is because of people like you who post with a lethal combination of extreme bias, condescension, and, as you say, "little insight."

Yes the reason many of the posters Left of Dick Cheney don't post here any more is because of people like Rocket who provide an alternative to the watered down Ben Shapiro drivel. Spot on. lol.

People don't post opposing views anymore because comments like "we should go back to Afghanistan" or known disinformation "Biden asleep video" go unvetted.

 

[Rocket89]

Yes the reason many of the posters Left of Dick Cheney don't post here any more is because of people like Rocket who provide an alternative to the watered down Ben Shapiro drivel. Spot on. lol.

People don't post opposing views anymore because comments like "we should go back to Afghanistan" or known disinformation "Biden asleep video" go unvetted.

LOL, I know right? It’s the lack of self awareness that just slays me.

 

[NorthDakota]

Yes the reason many of the posters Left of Dick Cheney don't post here any more is because of people like Rocket who provide an alternative to the watered down Ben Shapiro drivel. Spot on. lol.

People don't post opposing views anymore because comments like "we should go back to Afghanistan" or known disinformation "Biden asleep video" go unvetted.

I think there is a wide range of ideas that would fall between "the administration fucked this up royally" and "we need to surge up to 100K troops again."

 

[tussin]

Oh no, claims that I'm just a super big lefty with extreme bias. How shocking you'd take that route!

I've read this room fucking perfectly.

Uhhhh, you missed the point. The fact that you have a leftist bias is not surprising nor is that a critique. Every poster here has bias, we are in a political subforum on a college football message board. It's to be expected. My point is that you are representative of the poster that elects to spend literally all of his time posting about politics, yet reacts with sneering contempt to any poster that disagrees with your viewpoint.

By the way, not sure how you can roll your eyes at an accusation of extreme bias. This is my first week posting in this thread and my introduction to your politics was likening the Afghanistan withdrawal to a "10-2 season." That's comical.

 

[drayer54]

By the way, not sure how you can roll your eyes at an accusation of extreme bias. This is my first week posting in this thread and my introduction to your politics was likening the Afghanistan withdrawal to a "10-2 season." That's comical.

It was a moral victory for some. The 2 losses were to the MAC and the coach accidentally left half the team, a ton of expensive gear, and the mascot dog at the stadium on the other side of the country.
Coach couldn’t stop checking his watch when his star players got hurt. The press conference was an incoherent mess, but the graduate assistant reassured us that the next recruiting class would be representative and inclusive, despite them all having prison records. But sure, 10-2.

 

[Rocket89]

Uhhhh, you missed the point. The fact that you have a leftist bias is not surprising nor is that a critique. Every poster here has bias, we are in a political subforum on a college football message board. It's to be expected. My point is that you are representative of the poster that elects to spend literally all of his time posting about politics, yet reacts with sneering contempt to any poster that disagrees with your viewpoint.

By the way, not sure how you can roll your eyes at an accusation of extreme bias. This is my first week posting in this thread and my introduction to your politics was likening the Afghanistan withdrawal to a "10-2 season." That's comical.

This is a shrinking and isolated community of right-wingers who like the smell of their own farts and are incapable of any pushback on any topic or discussing things in a level-headed way. Yeah, I think it deserves sneering contempt and definitely a healthy dose of mockery. Guilty as charged.

If you're worried, I'm also in the soccer forums on occasion, too. #COYS

 

[Sea Turtle]

Yes the reason many of the posters Left of Dick Cheney don't post here any more is because of people like Rocket who provide an alternative to the watered down Ben Shapiro drivel. Spot on. lol.

People don't post opposing views anymore because comments like "we should go back to Afghanistan" or known disinformation "Biden asleep video" go unvetted.

If he wasn't asleep, then he sure as heck was resting his eyes.

Have you ever seen a world leader looking down, eyes closed, hands folded for 20 seconds while the other world leader is engaging him, talking directly at him in an animated manner, using hand gestures to enhance points. Maybe it's happened before but it's bizarre. That's why it gained traction.

Ari Fleisher said he wasn't asleep and that it wasn't fair because he answered right after the Israeli leader finished. He also came back and said it was very rude.

It was bizarre, to say the least. Yes, we understand Trump did bizarre things. He did some stupid things. We heard about it every day for four years

 

[TorontoGold]

If he wasn't asleep, then he sure as heck was resting his eyes.

Have you ever seen a world leader looking down, eyes closed, hands folded for 20 seconds while the other world leader is engaging him, talking directly at him in an animated manner, using hand gestures to enhance points. Maybe it's happened before but it's bizarre. That's why it gained traction.

Ari Fleisher said he wasn't asleep and that it wasn't fair because he answered right after the Israeli leader finished. He also came back and said it was very rude.

It was bizarre, to say the least. Yes, we understand Trump did bizarre things. He did some stupid things. We heard about it every day for four years

No, it did not happen. End of story. There isn't a "maybe" or "if". It gained traction because smooth brains thought it was real. There are some jokes videos out there of politicians having videos spliced up, but I wouldn't rush to a thread and post it as fact.

As RDU would say "Politicians are weird as hell man", a lot of their antics are bizarre.

 

[drayer54]

No, it did not happen. End of story. There isn't a "maybe" or "if". It gained traction because smooth brains thought it was real. There are some jokes videos out there of politicians having videos spliced up, but I wouldn't rush to a thread and post it as fact.

As RDU would say "Politicians are weird as hell man", a lot of their antics are bizarre.

He wasn’t asleep, but he was sitting there with eyes closed. It’s not too 100 things he’s done wrong in the last month. It’s closer to real than the Russian bounties, the pee tape, or the suckers and losers comment, but whatever.

 

[NorthDakota]

No, it did not happen. End of story. There isn't a "maybe" or "if". It gained traction because smooth brains thought it was real. There are some jokes videos out there of politicians having videos spliced up, but I wouldn't rush to a thread and post it as fact.

As RDU would say "Politicians are weird as hell man", a lot of their antics are bizarre.

I ain't gonna say man was asleep. But the whole thing is staring at his watch with the parents of the dead. That was a tough look.

All the yelling about how this all went fine is not great either.

edit: plus...sounds like some of the families have went on the record with similar stories about their conversation....talking about his dead middle aged son. I'm young. I'm not a parent. I've never lost a child. Hes lost two.

But when we got a families saying he spent most of the time talking about his middle aged dead son....I'm sorry but that makes him come across ass a jackass.

 

[BrownerandFry]

I ain't gonna say man was asleep. But the whole thing is staring at his watch with the parents of the dead. That was a tough look.

All the yelling about how this all went fine is not great either.

edit: plus...sounds like some of the families have went on the record with similar stories about their conversation....talking about his dead middle aged son. I'm young. I'm not a parent. I've never lost a child. Hes lost two.

But when we got a families saying he spent most of the time talking about his middle aged dead son....I'm sorry but that makes him come across ass a jackass.

Politicians weirdness is reflective of the people that anoint them, vote for them.

People who lead desperate miserable lives seek a distraction, or ONE hero and ONE villain,.

But it never works. their lives remain miserable, and love or hate of a politician solves nothing, at the end of the day.

 

[BrownerandFry]

Do you really not understand why? Because it's an accurate claim. I've asked you and all the other leftists here to tell us what they saw in Biden's record, actions, or campaign that convinced them he was a good choice for president, and not one could give an answer. He's inept. He's clueless. He has no moral compass, nor any track record of success, nor anything that would ever suggest he should be in charge of anything more important than a lemonade stand. And his actions in Afghanistan are EXACTLY what half of us did expect and all of us should have expected given his track record. Yet you are here defending him. Notice that all the others who have never hesitated to chime in on all things political have grown strangely silent about him recently? Even they know he's a disaster and that he screwed up big time here. He's Jimmy Carter without the integrity or intelligence, but all the naivete and weakness.

Who died and made you an expert on moral compass?

Dazzle me with your credentials on evaluating moral compasses.

and define it, please.

 

[BrownerandFry]

Because the cross-section of posters remaining gives us insight into answering the question of why so many people have been run off and/or decided to leave the politics on this site, especially now that Trump is out. The threads are also hidden. I'm not an alumnus but the posters remaining are not very representative of Notre Dame fans and alums on the whole. Add in 500 ND fans and things would look a lot different.

So, when anyone wants to take a victory lap about the lack of posters from the other side of the aisle like you won something it's important to keep in mind 99% of the people here aren't in these threads and those who have left had good reason.

damn, well there is another issue hidden in your reasoned post.

Is the Notre Dame of 2021 representative of the school some of us attended.

Para ejemplo, compare and contrast John Jenkins with Rev. Theordore Martin Hesburgh.

 

[BrownerandFry]

The next thing Biden should do is tell the South Koreans that starting Oct 1 we are sending a thousand troops home each month until they are all gone.

the Korean War is 70 years old.

What the hell are we doing with 28,000 troops still there?

 

[BrownerandFry]

Ahh, the law of unintended consequences.....

https://goodwordnews.com/white-supre...-us-officials/


Far-right communities have been reinvigorated by events in Afghanistan, “whether by their desire to emulate the Taliban or by increasingly violent rhetoric about ‘invasions’ by displaced Afghans,” according to an analysis recent from the SITE Intelligence Group, an American non-governmental organization that tracks the online activity of white supremacist and jihadist organizations.

Some people hail the Taliban’s takeover as “a lesson in love for the homeland, for freedom and for religion,” SITE said in its weekly newsletter on far-right extremists.

Neo-Nazis and violent accelerationists – who hope to provoke what they see as inevitable race war, which would lead to an exclusively white state – in North America and Europe praise the Taliban for their anti-Semitism, homophobia and severe restrictions women’s freedom, SITE noted.

For example, a quote from the Proud Boy to Fascist Pipeline Telegram, said: “These farmers and poorly trained men fought to take their nation back from globohomo. They took over their government, made their national religion into law. and executed dissidents … If the white men in the west had the same courage as the Taliban, we would not be currently ruled by Jews, ”SITE said.


WOW! Reading is fascinating. I learned a new word "GLOBOHOMO>" Any ideas of where I can use it????

 

[ulukinatme]

What happened to no man left behind, we'd get everyone out? Wall Street Journal article:

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/DionNissenbaum/status/1432753199518212102[/TWEET]

 

[Irish#1]

Because the cross-section of posters remaining gives us insight into answering the question of why so many people have been run off and/or decided to leave the politics on this site, especially now that Trump is out. The threads are also hidden. I'm not an alumnus but the posters remaining are not very representative of Notre Dame fans and alums on the whole. Add in 500 ND fans and things would look a lot different.

So, when anyone wants to take a victory lap about the lack of posters from the other side of the aisle like you won something it's important to keep in mind 99% of the people here aren't in these threads and those who have left had good reason.

So we have a non ND alum telling others this thread would be different if it were 500 alum posting? That's priceless. How do you know how an ND alum thinks? They all think the same? You think all ND alums share your point of view?

You can also claim it's just a handful of posters in this thread and you're right. The good reason it's only the same handful? Those that had all guns blazing in telling us how bad Trump was can't find any reason to support or defend Biden.

This is a shrinking and isolated community of right-wingers who like the smell of their own farts and are incapable of any pushback on any topic or discussing things in a level-headed way.

I've already told you we agree on being out of Afghanistan, yet you keep justifying and defending the cluster fiasco that was the withdrawal. Even Dems are critical of Biden on this, yet here you are saying it's all good. Seems you're the one that is incapable of pushback.

 

[drayer54]

I ain't gonna say man was asleep. But the whole thing is staring at his watch with the parents of the dead. That was a tough look.

All the yelling about how this all went fine is not great either.

edit: plus...sounds like some of the families have went on the record with similar stories about their conversation....talking about his dead middle aged son. I'm young. I'm not a parent. I've never lost a child. Hes lost two.

But when we got a families saying he spent most of the time talking about his middle aged dead son....I'm sorry but that makes him come across ass a jackass.

The families were all pretty pissed at him from what I’ve seen. The looking at the watch constantly and making it about him was a bad look. I’m sure the people who think the Taliban dictating terms to the US and preventing us from getting everyone out wasn’t bad are willing to overlook this one too though.

 

[IrishRazor82]

Where's Kamala?

 

[tussin]

So we have a non ND alum telling others this thread would be different if it were 500 alum posting? That's priceless. How do you know how an ND alum thinks? They all think the same? You think all ND alums share your point of view?

Yes, he does that while simultaneously pontificating on how it's everyone else who "likes the smell of their own farts." It really is a marvel to watch.

 

[Rocket89]

So we have a non ND alum telling others this thread would be different if it were 500 alum posting?

Yes, it's common sense. Just take a look at what happens in the public Covid thread when the right-wingers make an appearance. Immediate shaming, while everyone gets to hide in this thread while patting themselves on the tushy about how right they are.

How do you know how an ND alum thinks? They all think the same? You think all ND alums share your point of view?

Yes, the average ND alum POV is far away from this tiny Tucker Carlson-auditioning thread. Again, not even remotely controversial if you'd climb out from underneath this moldy rock of a thread.

You can also claim it's just a handful of posters in this thread and you're right. The good reason it's only the same handful? Those that had all guns blazing in telling us how bad Trump was can't find any reason to support or defend Biden.

Another piece of evidence of a shrinking, isolated fringe community is their belief it's not them who's out of touch and they've chased everyone else away due to their facts and argumentative skills. Realize, I don't expect you to agree at all--that's quite literally a founding principle of this thread now.

 

[Rocket89]

Yes, he does that while simultaneously pontificating on how it's everyone else who "likes the smell of their own farts." It really is a marvel to watch.

I'm so sorry that the Taliban not having $85 billion of equipment has upset your feelings so much.

 

[Rocket89]

And with that, I'm gonna peace out as CFB begins.

Go Irish (for the ND fans in the thread).

 

[tussin]

Yes, it's common sense. Just take a look at what happens in the public Covid thread when the right-wingers make an appearance. Immediate shaming, while everyone gets to hide in this thread while patting themselves on the tushy about how right they are.

Yes, the average ND alum POV is far away from this tiny Tucker Carlson-auditioning thread. Again, not even remotely controversial if you'd climb out from underneath this moldy rock of a thread.

Five minutes of googling and you would have learned that a plurality of male students at ND identify as Conservative. One can safely assume that the alumni base skews even more right on a percentage basis. Of course there is a wide spectrum between your standard neocon and Tucker Carlson, but I suspect that the average male ND alum agrees more with the posters you deride every day than yourself. Anecdotally I can confirm this given my experiences with ND alums when I was in grad school.

 

[TorontoGold]

Five minutes of googling and you would have learned that a plurality of male students at ND identify as Conservative. One can safely assume that the alumni base skews even more right on a percentage basis. Of course there is a wide spectrum between your standard neocon and Tucker Carlson, but I suspect that the average male ND alum agrees more with the posters you deride every day than yourself. Anecdotally I can confirm this given my experiences with ND alums when I was in grad school.

You do realize that you can identify as conservative and vote for a democrat, right? Like that is definite possibility. Hell, I was a registered member of the CPC. I know Lax mentioned he was registered Republican.

What's even more telling is the voting statistics, 47% of ND's males (kind of bizarre to disregard women....) voted for Clinton. The only STEM major that had a higher share of Trump votes than the 28% figure, was business at 36%. Ironically, science was lowest of the STEM majors at 21.3% - go figure.

Including women in the calculation, shows that ND's student body is actually more liberal than conservative without taking into account people in the middle.

 

[BrownerandFry]

I'm so sorry that the Taliban not having $85 billion of equipment has upset your feelings so much.

This is a serious comment, for you and Toronto Gold, but let anyone join in.
I have read Conscience of a Conservative,and the fairly recent George Will book Conservative Sensibility.
These lay out classical conservative views and the America in which I grew up had people who had views all over the place, not slotted and shaped.

But the stuff you have fought against here is not of Goldwater and Will, or for that matter, Sasse or Romney.

Here is the serious question:
Does it not appear that the infantile, jejune, emotional (in contradistinction to logical) garbage that appears here could, as in could have come from a Russian troll farm?

If you choose to respond, fine, if not, enjoy that candy colored clown that is college football.

Go Irish!

 

[Irishize]

This is a serious comment, for you and Toronto Gold, but let anyone join in.
I have read Conscience of a Conservative,and the fairly recent George Will book Conservative Sensibility.
These lay out classical conservative views and the America in which I grew up had people who had views all over the place, not slotted and shaped.

But the stuff you have fought against here is not of Goldwater and Will, or for that matter, Sasse or Romney.

Here is the serious question:
Does it not appear that the infantile, jejune, emotional (in contradistinction to logical) garbage that appears here could, as in could have come from a Russian troll farm?

If you choose to respond, fine, if not, enjoy that candy colored clown that is college football.

Go Irish!

Circa…that you?