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Taliban are moving fast. Looks like Kabul is now the only city not under control of the Taliban. Expecting it to fall in 30-60 days. Over 20,000 asylum seekers trying to get into the U.S. Probably won't make it before Kabul falls meaning they will probably be put to death once it's captured.
 

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Taliban are moving fast. Looks like Kabul is now the only city not under control of the Taliban. Expecting it to fall in 30-60 days. Over 20,000 asylum seekers trying to get into the U.S. Probably won't make it before Kabul falls meaning they will probably be put to death once it's captured.

Looks like they too will be building back better.

Begging OPEC, Watching Afghanistan Fall, and 20% of Americans are economics challenged.
[TWEET]https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1425819225852026890?s=20[/TWEET]
 
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Clearly, Biden must be blamed for this sad occcurence:'
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https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210812-us-qanon-dad-killed-his-children-over-serpent-dna-fbi

If Biden had not stolen the election...................

There is a Q'Anon guy at my health club.

I always exchange two sentences with him, light banter. Just to blur his weird mind.

But I never EVER turn my back on him.

Make your own choices

They walk among us.

And if there are any Nevadans on here you know the saga of Cliven Bundy, the Praetorian Guard.
 

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Looks like they too will be building back better.

Begging OPEC, Watching Afghanistan Fall, and 20% of Americans are economics challenged.
[TWEET]https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1425819225852026890?s=20[/TWEET]

You have to pay for the spending spree somehow.

Reporter: President Biden, why do you keep spending?
Biden: Because there's still checks in my checkbook.
 

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I get getting out of there, but it's obvious Uncle Joe opened his mouth without doing a lot of conferring with his military leaders and the State Department when it comes to leaving the country. It also seems very similar to Viet Nam and evacuating Saigon regardless of the spin.

1. Enemy troops quickly taking over the country. Check
2. Final stronghold about to be taken over. Check
3. A large number of citizens who assisted the U.S. need evacuated. Check
4. Closing embassy, Check
5. 3K troops are going in to assist in the evacuation. Check

Should have been doing this on the QT and not put such a short deadline on evacuating.
 

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7 months in and this administration is in shambles. Absolutely embarrassing both domestic and foreign.
 

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"The likelihood there’s going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely."- Joe Biden 7/8/2021


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#AmericaIsBack
 

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Today is reinstatement day. Again. Where can I find it? OAN? Fox? Streaming?
 

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Heard someone make a good point on ditching the Afgans - this is prime Taliban season right now. Anyone with half a brain knows to cut out in winter months so Joe is going against the Generals now.

In fairness, Joe may actually know generals never want to leave and can't decipher good timing from never timing. Can't wait to see where we fight next tho.

Inevitable - should have never occupied for 20 years to begin with. Rambo 3 should be required viewing for the world.
 

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Despite extreme censorship, data and information are more available than ever (whether or not people are smart enough to understand is one thing, but let's assume ~60% of adults are).

The democratic policies are so bad for Americans, their party cannot survive in 2020+ unless one of two things happen: 1) Voter manipulation by some means. Or 2) They can successfully steer people from becoming aware of their utterly terrible policies by using fear and guilt to focus the population on racism, COVID, or weather.

Right now they are winning on #2, but when you look at every meaningful metric, they're failing America left and right.

And the Republicans have the winning strategies, but they're so bad at using this data collectively to convince the masses that there are tangible things at stake other than racism, COVID, and Climate. The Reps have a lay up given how bad democrats policies are, but they're shooting half courters.
 

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Wondering how Toronto rationalizes the lowest vaccination rate being among the most heavily democrat demographic? I mean only like 10% of african americans vote republican but 70%+ are unvaccinated soooooo..........?????
 

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Yes Republican states typically trail and African American vaccination rates are problematic. Both can be true.
 

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Yes Republican states typically trail and African American vaccination rates are problematic. Both can be true.

Yes, they both can be true.

Edit - I wanted to check out the claim, and I found that the discrepancy between AA/White/Hispanic vax rates is relatively the same. All within 2% of their total share of US population makeup, ex. White people make up 61% of the pop and 59% of the total vaxxed. See below.

So, I'm curious as to what data/source you and RDU are looking at to confidently make that claim. So, yes, I guess there is a 2% discrepancy for white/black/hispanic.


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https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-cov...data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/
 
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Two birds, one stone

When the Taliban take over the country and the Americans are home, just send in the Air Force, after a warning,

and napalm the poppy fields. This will give the Afghans and the Taliban an opportunity to consider what they've done

And cut off the supply to the smack freaks in the U.S.;

About time.
 

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Two birds, one stone

When the Taliban take over the country and the Americans are home, just send in the Air Force, after a warning,

and napalm the poppy fields. This will give the Afghans and the Taliban an opportunity to consider what they've done

And cut off the supply to the smack freaks in the U.S.;

About time.

I could get behind this.
 

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Two birds, one stone

When the Taliban take over the country and the Americans are home, just send in the Air Force, after a warning,

and napalm the poppy fields. This will give the Afghans and the Taliban an opportunity to consider what they've done

And cut off the supply to the smack freaks in the U.S.;

About time.

Anyone who grew up in, or worked for, or both.... like myself knows the Air Force is a mildly effective force without boots on the ground.

You find a single airman who disagrees, and I'll give you an award for finding an idiot.
 

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Anyone who grew up in, or worked for, or both.... like myself knows the Air Force is a mildly effective force without boots on the ground.

You find a single airman who disagrees, and I'll give you an award for finding an idiot.

Which syllable of "Napalm the poppy fields" did you miss.

boots on the ground to Napalm poppy fields?

Waddyagonna do send the "Boots on the ground in with these:"

https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER...ocphy=9030356&hvtargid=pla-348811110626&psc=1

Napalm. Napalm

If you've seen it work with your own eyes no explanation (or boots) required.
If you haven't seen it work with your own eyes, no explanation will suffice.

There is much less to you than meets (your) eye.

You are dismissed. A mere "musca domestica."
 

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Which syllable of "Napalm the poppy fields" did you miss.

boots on the ground to Napalm poppy fields?

Waddyagonna do send the "Boots on the ground in with these:"

https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER...ocphy=9030356&hvtargid=pla-348811110626&psc=1

Napalm. Napalm

If you've seen it work with your own eyes no explanation (or boots) required.
If you haven't seen it work with your own eyes, no explanation will suffice.

There is much less to you than meets (your) eye.

You are dismissed. A mere "musca domestica."

Effective against everything and everyone except for rice farmers apparently lol.
 

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Yes, they both can be true.

Edit - I wanted to check out the claim, and I found that the discrepancy between AA/White/Hispanic vax rates is relatively the same. All within 2% of their total share of US population makeup, ex. White people make up 61% of the pop and 59% of the total vaxxed. See below.

So, I'm curious as to what data/source you and RDU are looking at to confidently make that claim. So, yes, I guess there is a 2% discrepancy for white/black/hispanic.


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https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...ace-ethnicity/

I agreed with the claim because I actually assumed it was fairly well agreed upon fact as I've literally seen tons of news articles across all networks talking about the need to reach the African American community to fight the vaccine hesitancy. You do a google search of black vaccine hesitancy CNN you get about 2 pages worth of hits to CNN articles alone regarding the issue. I've seen many articles on the New York Times and many other media companies. Didn't think there was any real disagreement on the fact.

In regards to your stats, the good news is that African American percentage that initiated vaccine in the last 14 days is showing a bigger portion which means that the gap is closing.

The bad news regarding your stats is that you can't simply say that Whites are 61% of the population and they currently have 59% of the vaccines which is a shortfall of 2% and then say that's the same 2% shortfall that we see in the African American community (12% minus 10%). A shortfall of 2% as compared to the target of 12% is significantly different than a shortfall of 2% of the target 61%. The African American shortfall is much more significant.

I did the math and if I assumed that there are roughly 300 million people in the US over the age of 12. 190 million people have gotten vaccines. You do the math using your percentage stats and the end result is that Whites have a vaccine rate of about 61.3% while African Americans have 52.8%.

I don't know about RDU, but I certainly don't mention the fact that African Americans are trailing in this area as an excuse or an "what about ....." trying to justify inaction for other people. I'm also certainly not trying to cast blame that they are somehow more responsible for the spread of COVID. What I do find kind of perplexing is how the Democrats plan on handling potential blowback from their constituents if they try to implement vaccine passports or mandates which may disproportionally have a negative impact on the African American community.
 

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I agreed with the claim because I actually assumed it was fairly well agreed upon fact as I've literally seen tons of news articles across all networks talking about the need to reach the African American community to fight the vaccine hesitancy. You do a google search of black vaccine hesitancy CNN you get about 2 pages worth of hits to CNN articles alone regarding the issue. I've seen many articles on the New York Times and many other media companies. Didn't think there was any real disagreement on the fact.

In regards to your stats, the good news is that African American percentage that initiated vaccine in the last 14 days is showing a bigger portion which means that the gap is closing.

The bad news regarding your stats is that you can't simply say that Whites are 61% of the population and they currently have 59% of the vaccines which is a shortfall of 2% and then say that's the same 2% shortfall that we see in the African American community (12% minus 10%). A shortfall of 2% as compared to the target of 12% is significantly different than a shortfall of 2% of the target 61%. The African American shortfall is much more significant.

I did the math and if I assumed that there are roughly 300 million people in the US over the age of 12. 190 million people have gotten vaccines. You do the math using your percentage stats and the end result is that Whites have a vaccine rate of about 61.3% while African Americans have 52.8%.

I don't know about RDU, but I certainly don't mention the fact that African Americans are trailing in this area as an excuse or an "what about ....." trying to justify inaction for other people. I'm also certainly not trying to cast blame that they are somehow more responsible for the spread of COVID. What I do find kind of perplexing is how the Democrats plan on handling potential blowback from their constituents if they try to implement vaccine passports or mandates which may disproportionally have a negative impact on the African American community.

Yeah doing the long math on it, I came to the same figures you did. The 8% discrepancy is concerning for sure, however as you mentioned, the share of vaccine uptake among black people is significantly higher than their representation. Curious as to why the 70% unvaccinated figure that RDU posted wasn't challenged? Because based on yours and my math it's not even remotely close and clearly wrong.

Vaccine passports are heavily supported the majority of the population, across the US and among other developed countries. The black population has a much higher share of deaths/cases, they would benefit the most from an uptake in vaccines. Advocating for paid time off would help combat the perceived negative impacts of a vax passport, I'm skeptical that many who are firmly against a passport would support PTO for a vax.

Sources for vax passport support.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzann...s---but-what-about-in-the-us/?sh=1c7bf65664a8
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/11/vac...n-as-delta-variant-threatens-travel-boom.html
 

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Yeah doing the long math on it, I came to the same figures you did. The 8% discrepancy is concerning for sure, however as you mentioned, the share of vaccine uptake among black people is significantly higher than their representation. Curious as to why the 70% unvaccinated figure that RDU posted wasn't challenged? Because based on yours and my math it's not even remotely close and clearly wrong.

Vaccine passports are heavily supported the majority of the population, across the US and among other developed countries. The black population has a much higher share of deaths/cases, they would benefit the most from an uptake in vaccines. Advocating for paid time off would help combat the perceived negative impacts of a vax passport, I'm skeptical that many who are firmly against a passport would support PTO for a vax.

Sources for vax passport support.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzann...s---but-what-about-in-the-us/?sh=1c7bf65664a8
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/11/vac...n-as-delta-variant-threatens-travel-boom.html

I totally blew by his 70% claim the first time. Have no idea where that came from.

In regards to vaccine passports, I guess I should've been more clear. I didn't really mean literally documentation related to international travel or even travel inside the United States. I should've used the term vaccine mandates. I get your point that the African American community could potentially benefit most if there are mandates, but that doesn't mean that there wouldn't be significant push back. I thought there was some recent tweet from a BLM twitter feed that was pretty vocally anti-mandates.
 

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It looks like I was using the wrong figure for vaccinated. The 190 million that I cited represented those that had received at least one dose.

Link here says that as of August 2nd the White Rate was 49% and African American Rate was 38% fully vaccinated. As we mentioned before, that gap is likely closing.
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...2:%22asc%22%7D
 

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While you guys were cherrypicking COVID data, this is going on in Saigon, err Afghanistan. Jimmy Carter has to be feeling good about his Presidency.


"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f**k things up"

- Barack Obama

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Anyone remember Biden telling us that the Afghans may hold their own? I didn't think it was possible for there to be worse optics than admitting defeat by fleeing on 9/11 anniversary, but having the whole country collapse like this is pretty bad.
 

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Hmm, the president spent time at
Johns Hopkins
Berkeley
Lake Oswego
Anthropologist
World Bank Employee....

I mean, really, Foreign Policy and Prospect magazine rated him one of the worlds' top intellectuals.

Really, who could see this coming???????????

these ragtag illiterate NATIVES of the Taliban how could they stand a fighting (sic) chance against time at John Hopkins and Berkeley

Mohammad Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai

.Afghan politician, academic, and economist who served as the 14th President of Afghanistan from September 2014 until he fled country on 15 August 2021 to Tajikistan.[SUP][2][3][4][5][/SUP] He was first elected on 20 September 2014 and was re-elected in the 28 September 2019 presidential election. He was announced the winner after a protracted process in February 2020 and was sworn in for a second term on 9 March 2020. An anthropologist by education, he previously served as Minister of Finance and the Chancellor of Kabul University.
Before returning to Afghanistan in 2002, Ghani was a professor of anthropology at numerous institutions (mostly Johns Hopkins University), and later started working with the World Bank. As the Finance Minister of Afghanistan between July 2002 and December 2004, he led Afghanistan's attempted economic recovery after the collapse of the Taliban government.
He is the co-founder of the Institute for State Effectiveness, an organization set up in 2005 to improve the ability of states to serve their citizens. In 2005 he gave a TED talk, in which he discussed how to rebuild a broken state such as Afghanistan.[SUP][6][/SUP] He is a member of the Commission on Legal Empowerment of the Poor, an independent initiative hosted by the United Nations Development Programme. In 2013 he was ranked 50th in an online poll to name the world's top 100 intellectuals conducted by Foreign Policy magazine and second in a similar poll run by Prospect magazine.[SUP][7][/SUP]
An independent politician, Ghani came in fourth in the 2009 presidential election, behind Hamid Karzai, Abdullah Abdullah, and Ramazan Bashardost. In the first round of the 2014 presidential election, Ghani secured 35% of the vote, second to Abdullah who secured 45% of the votes cast. However, in the second round Ghani secured around 55.3% of the votes while Abdullah secured around 44.7% of the votes cast. As a result, chaos ensued and the United States intervened to form a unity government.[SUP][8][/SUP]
Ghani was re-elected when the final results of the 2019 presidential elections were announced after a long delay on 18 February 2020.[SUP][9][10][/SUP] He was sworn in as president for a second five-year term on 9 March 2020.[SUP][11][/SUP]
On 15 August 2021, Afghan officials stated that Ghani had fled the presidential palace Sunday morning to the US embassy[SUP][12][/SUP] and from there he had fled Afghanistan to Tajikistan as the Taliban entered Kabul.[SUP][13][14][15][/SUP]

Early life

Ghani was born on 19 May 1949[SUP][16][/SUP] in the Logar Province in the Kingdom of Afghanistan. He belongs to the Ahmadzai Pashtun tribe.[SUP][17][18][/SUP]
As a foreign exchange student, Ghani attended Lake Oswego High School in Lake Oswego, Oregon and graduated with the class of 1967. He initially wanted to study law but then changed his major to cultural anthropology. Ghani attended the American University in Beirut where he earned his bachelor's degree in 1973, and after that, attended Columbia University, where he earned his master's degree in 1977, and a PhD degree in 1983. He met his future wife, Rula, while studying there.[SUP][17][/SUP]

Academic career

Following his bachelor's degree, Ghani served on the faculty of Kabul University (1973–77) and Aarhus University in Denmark (1977). Following his PhD degree, he was invited to teach at University of California, Berkeley in 1983, and then at Johns Hopkins University from 1983 to 1991. He has also attended the Harvard-INSEAD and World Bank-Stanford Graduate School of Business's leadership training program. His academic research was on state-building and social transformation. In 1985, he completed a year of fieldwork researching Pakistani madrassas as a Fulbright Scholar.[SUP][17][/SUP]



I mean really, who bet on the Taliban??"??

What were they Plus 900

How many Fulbright Scholars do the Taliban got?????????????????????????????....

.Mohammad Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai

What is his acronym?

MAGA!#$%^%

No

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