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This is getting a lot of play, along with the LSU suspensions, here in Nashville.

The Bama/LSU game now being called the Weed Bowl.
 
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ND players are not angels and I'm sure we will have surprises from time to time-no program is exempt. But ND as a whole is on a level few programs are on as far as players off field demeanor. Especially top 25 programs.
 

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Because we all know ND players are angels...


Hope he can get it all sorted out.

ND players are not angels and I'm sure we will have surprises from time to time-no program is exempt. But ND as a whole is on a level few programs are on as far as players off field demeanor. Especially top 25 programs.

Yeah, the difference being that if an ND player got busted for smoking real (or synthetic) pot DURING THE SEASON, people wouldn't be fine with just a 1 game suspension. When it happens at a school like LSU or Alabama, people/fans are usually okay with just letting it pass on by and anxious to get the guy back in there for the next game. Because, after all, winning games is all that really matters.
 

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<I>When it happens at a school like LSU or Alabama, people/fans are usually okay with just letting it pass on by and anxious to get the guy back in there for the next game. Because, after all, winning games is all that really matters.</I>

Yeah, can't wait until redshirt Brent Calloway fulfills his SEC-standard one game suspension and hits that field aga-oh, wait a minute. Unless you can reference all of the other times Alabama has let players with serious offenses during (or right before the season) slide. Alabama players got suspended for multiple games over that textbook thing, surely we're anxious to put players back on the field for drug possession, DUIs, etc

But you probably can't. Yeah, I'm gonna go with that.
 
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<I>When it happens at a school like LSU or Alabama, people/fans are usually okay with just letting it pass on by and anxious to get the guy back in there for the next game. Because, after all, winning games is all that really matters.</I>

Yeah, can't wait until redshirt Brent Calloway fulfills his SEC-standard one game suspension and hits that field aga-oh, wait a minute. Unless you can reference all of the other times Alabama has let players with serious offenses during (or right before the season) slide.

But you probably can't. Yeah, I'm gonna go with that.

No need to reference "all the other times Alabama has let players with serious offenses ...slide" because a known fact to fans of college football is that it has, historically, run a shady (if not corrupt) program. From Bear to DuBose to "Mr. Oversign and Mysterious-Medical-Problems-For-Underpreforming-Upperclassmen Nick Saban."

By the way, why are you on a NOTRE DAME message board trying to stir things up?
 

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I like how this:

"No need to reference "all the other times Alabama has let players with serious offenses ...slide""

and this:

From Bear to DuBose to "Mr. Oversign and Mysterious-Medical-Problems-For-Underpreforming-Upperclassmen Nick Saban."

have nothing in common. And I'm not here to start anything, unless you think that not joining in with the jolly ol' Bama bashing with no facts behind it (which is probably why you were so eager for that transition mentioned above) means that I'm doing so

Yeah it's funny. I do have a habit of responding to Alabama threads on this board. I come here to discuss ND football, get info about the players, etc, and sure enough, every single week I look on the main page bam, there's a fresh Alabama thread on the recent thread list with someone spewing baseless crap that is easy to respond to. I don't make the topics, I just respond to them. Weird stuff.
 
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How many times has Alabama been on probation? How many times have they been investigated by the NCAA? I ask because I don't know the EXACT answer...but I do know it's certainly more than Notre Dame and more than most schools in the NCAA. Those are facts.

And no, I'm not going to give anybody a list of "ALL the times" for anything in any discussion. The fact that I can't answer "ALL" (meaning every example on or off the record) the times to a question, does not make my statement false. That's a weak technique used by you to try and discredit an argument. But I do know Alabama football has been on probation multiple times, including once several years ago...and were caught cheating AGAIN while on that probation. I also know Alabama fans, supporters, and the institution itself don't expect the same kind of behavior and performance from their student athletes as fans, supporters, and the institution of Notre Dame. I also know that Alabama has had a football player arrested for drugs this school year...and Notre Dame has not.

I'm sorry your mind only works with a list of facts in front of it. Mine does not. I can learn things from conversations I have, my own observations, things I read, etc. You see, I have never done heroin...but I still know it's bad for me. I guess if I use your logic, I'd have to actually try it to know it's bad for me.

Anyway, I'm done with you. If you want to continue laud the accomplishments of Alabama and its student athletes, I suggest you do it on an ALABAMA MESSAGE BOARD AND NOT A NOTRE DAME ONE
 

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<I>And no, I'm not going to give anybody a list of "ALL the times" for anything in any discussion</I>

I don't really expect you to. Because in all of that rambling crap, you still couldn't give a <I>single example</I>. Not even just one. You could have taken the cop-out route by saying something like [insert example here] and added an etc, or mention something from decades ago as if it had something to do with current times. But you couldn't even do that. You're doing a whole lot of talking about nothing relevant when the simple fact is that you can't even give one example of Alabama letting players skate after committing a serious offense, even though the post that started this little back and forth talks about schools like Bama usually being eager to get players back out on the field after such cases because of the "hurr durr winning at any cost" mantra. Instead, you have to go a complete different angle avoiding the topic at hand.

So yeah, big shock there

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<I>Anyway, I'm done with you. If you want to continue laud the accomplishments of Alabama and its student athletes, I suggest you do it on an ALABAMA MESSAGE BOARD AND NOT A NOTRE DAME ONE</I>

Nice melodramatic approach. I mean, look at all the times I've bragged about Alabama in this topic. The grand total of zero times. But yeah, like I said earlier, since I'm not going with the flow and joining in the mindless bashing, of course that means I'm "lauding Alabama's accomplishments". It's nothing new. I get the same on Alabama boards when somebody says something misinformed about ND. Old stuff.
 
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I do have a habit of responding to Alabama threads on this board. I come here to discuss ND football, get info about the players, etc, and sure enough, every single week I look on the main page bam, there's a fresh Alabama thread on the recent thread list with someone spewing baseless crap that is easy to respond to. I don't make the topics, I just respond to them. Weird stuff.

"every single week ... there's a fresh Alabama thread" Really? I didn't realize your boys got in so much trouble. Every week. So was it you Commissioner Slive was thinking about when he became the SEC Commissioner and said, he was going to clean things up? Personally, I always thought it was Auburn but hey, Antonio Langham, Gene Jelks, Siran Stacy, David Palmer, Free Tires U., Fixed Speeding Tickets, DUI's ignored, Nance's gun ... . There is a long history which includes just about every coach and AD since Bryant but not "every single week" as you protest - too much.

As for your need to respond so frequently, it might lessen if you actually read what's written in posts rather espond to the conclusions you jumped to like a hormonal tween.

The first poster noted "SEC player getting arrested ... shocking!" Kind of sad but if you google "Alabama player arrested" (your way of reading that sentence.) there are two separate stories on Bama players getting busted, Calloway in T'Town and Mark Barron in Mobile. At least one of the Calloway articles points out that Calloway was the first Tide player arrested since March '11. Almost like taking pride that it's been so long. (Which again kind of refutes your "every single week" crap, doesn't it?)

Curiously when you google "Alabama player arrested" the articles are also about Auburn players getting arrested for Armed Robbery, LSU players, other SEC schools ... kind of goes to the OP's "Another SEC Player arrested - Shocking!" (I keep getting visions of Claude Rains saying that line while folding a bundle of money, ahem, speaking of the SEC)


Wait it minute here, the post you took special exception to and quoted OUT OF CONTEXT and without attribution actually noted, "When it happens at a school like LSU or Alabama". I listed his post below:

irishog77
Yeah, the difference being that if an ND player got busted for smoking real (or synthetic) pot DURING THE SEASON, people wouldn't be fine with just a 1 game suspension. When it happens at a school like LSU or Alabama, people/fans are usually okay with just letting it pass on by and anxious to get the guy back in there for the next game. Because, after all, winning games is all that really matters.

The folks at schools like LSU or Alabama do expect those that have stepped out of the lines won't miss any action or at most 1 game. Since winning does matter most there, doesn't it. He also notes that ND doesn't whitewash the infraction. Actually it doesn't matter if it's inseason or out of season at ND the student athlete goes before a Student/Faculty Board which judges student offenses. ND frequently suspends the student from ALL extracurricular activities for a semester so they can focus on their problem and remedy it. If this happens to fall during a sport the student plays, they get to sit out the season as part of a semester suspenion. Powers-Neal lost half a season with such a suspension for a DUI in his home state. Michael Floyd was suspended from the all activities during the past Spring Semester for his DUI and spent the time focus on his problem and undergoing counseling and community service.

Albeit briefly irishog was actually underscoring ND's focus on the STUDENT recognizing he has a problem and has to deal with it to overcome it while at places LIKE LSU or Alabama, the focus is how soon can they get the ATHLETE back in uniform.



BTW, in your quixotic quest to defend the honor of "schools like LSU or Alabama" you may want to check out the Fulmer Cup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . The wonderful award that recognizes the procilivity for it's student athletes to get arrested. It was started to honor Tennessee (they're SEC, aren't they?) unique achievement of having over 20 players in a 16 month period back around '95.

It's only been awarded 6 times but UA, UGA, and AU give the SEC a lock. No other conference has even had two member school as winners. BTW, what's Saban up to now, 8 players arrested? Tell him to slow down he doesn't have to keep up with UF, Urban retired.


Troll on, MacadamianNut!
 

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Whileyou profess not to troll, you don't fail to update the Alabama and ND records in your signature, do you?

Well here's the record that matters:
Alabama 1
Notre Dame 5​
 

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"every single week ... there's a fresh Alabama thread" Really? I didn't realize your boys got in so much trouble. Every week. So was it you Commissioner Slive was thinking about when he became the SEC Commissioner and said, he was going to clean things up? Personally, I always thought it was Auburn but hey, Antonio Langham, Gene Jelks, Siran Stacy, David Palmer, Free Tires U., Fixed Speeding Tickets, DUI's ignored, Nance's gun ... . There is a long history which includes just about every coach and AD since Bryant but not "every single week" as you protest - too much.

As for your need to respond so frequently, it might lessen if you actually read what's written in posts rather espond to the conclusions you jumped to like a hormonal tween.

The first poster noted "SEC player getting arrested ... shocking!" Kind of sad but if you google "Alabama player arrested" (your way of reading that sentence.) there are two separate stories on Bama players getting busted, Calloway in T'Town and Mark Barron in Mobile. At least one of the Calloway articles points out that Calloway was the first Tide player arrested since March '11. Almost like taking pride that it's been so long. (Which again kind of refutes your "every single week" crap, doesn't it?)

Curiously when you google "Alabama player arrested" the articles are also about Auburn players getting arrested for Armed Robbery, LSU players, other SEC schools ... kind of goes to the OP's "Another SEC Player arrested - Shocking!" (I keep getting visions of Claude Rains saying that line while folding a bundle of money, ahem, speaking of the SEC)


Wait it minute here, the post you took special exception to and quoted OUT OF CONTEXT and without attribution actually noted, "When it happens at a school like LSU or Alabama". I listed his post below:

irishog77


The folks at schools like LSU or Alabama do expect those that have stepped out of the lines won't miss any action or at most 1 game. Since winning does matter most there, doesn't it. He also notes that ND doesn't whitewash the infraction. Actually it doesn't matter if it's inseason or out of season at ND the student athlete goes before a Student/Faculty Board which judges student offenses. ND frequently suspends the student from ALL extracurricular activities for a semester so they can focus on their problem and remedy it. If this happens to fall during a sport the student plays, they get to sit out the season as part of a semester suspenion. Powers-Neal lost half a season with such a suspension for a DUI in his home state. Michael Floyd was suspended from the all activities during the past Spring Semester for his DUI and spent the time focus on his problem and undergoing counseling and community service.

Albeit briefly irishog was actually underscoring ND's focus on the STUDENT recognizing he has a problem and has to deal with it to overcome it while at places LIKE LSU or Alabama, the focus is how soon can they get the ATHLETE back in uniform.



BTW, in your quixotic quest to defend the honor of "schools like LSU or Alabama" you may want to check out the Fulmer Cup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . The wonderful award that recognizes the procilivity for it's student athletes to get arrested. It was started to honor Tennessee (they're SEC, aren't they?) unique achievement of having over 20 players in a 16 month period back around '95.

It's only been awarded 6 times but UA, UGA, and AU give the SEC a lock. No other conference has even had two member school as winners. BTW, what's Saban up to now, 8 players arrested? Tell him to slow down he doesn't have to keep up with UF, Urban retired.


Troll on, MacadamianNut!

This!
 

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<I>And no, I'm not going to give anybody a list of "ALL the times" for anything in any discussion</I>

I don't really expect you to. Because in all of that rambling crap, you still couldn't give a <I>single example</I>. Not even just one. You could have taken the cop-out route by saying something like [insert example here] and added an etc, or mention something from decades ago as if it had something to do with current times. But you couldn't even do that. You're doing a whole lot of talking about nothing relevant when the simple fact is that you can't even give one example of Alabama letting players skate after committing a serious offense, even though the post that started this little back and forth talks about schools like Bama usually being eager to get players back out on the field after such cases because of the "hurr durr winning at any cost" mantra. Instead, you have to go a complete different angle avoiding the topic at hand.

So yeah, big shock there

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<I>Anyway, I'm done with you. If you want to continue laud the accomplishments of Alabama and its student athletes, I suggest you do it on an ALABAMA MESSAGE BOARD AND NOT A NOTRE DAME ONE</I>

Nice melodramatic approach. I mean, look at all the times I've bragged about Alabama in this topic. The grand total of zero times. But yeah, like I said earlier, since I'm not going with the flow and joining in the mindless bashing, of course that means I'm "lauding Alabama's accomplishments". It's nothing new. I get the same on Alabama boards when somebody says something misinformed about ND. Old stuff.


Time to retire dude, you just got b!tch slapped.
 

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Time to retire dude, you just got b!tch slapped.

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Bravo. I saw you eyeing this thread a couple hours ago and wondered how long it would take for you to post your anti-Bama drivel again, which I am already oh so accustomed to. But it's cute to see you come to this guy's rescue. A nice reflection of that ND family thing that was one of factors that made me choose this place over Vandy. Nice to see it in action. Anyway, herrrreeee we go

<I>"every single week ... there's a fresh Alabama thread" Really? I didn't realize your boys got in so much trouble.</I> and the rest of this paragraph blah blah

Whoa nice jumping to assumptions. The topics with the Bama bashing are not always about Bama getting in trouble. Not doing a nice job hiding any bias there bud. And really, the Jelks thing <I>again</I>? I guess it didn't get through to you last time since you want to believe whatever, but I'll just toss it out there again. Gene Jelks is a liar. In fact, he even recently visited Alabama again apologizing for lying.

TideSports.com - Former UA player Jelks returns to Tuscaloosa

So you should really drop that unless you like it helping your "I don't know what the hell I'm talking about" theme you got going. Regardless, I'm sure I'll see you referencing it again in the future or maybe even some cutesy "Bama paid him to say that" or whatever it is you like to do. It wouldn't surprise me honestly, so I'm looking forward to it.

<I>The first poster noted "SEC player getting arrested ... shocking!" Kind of sad but if you google "Alabama player arrested</I> blah blah

Nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

<I>Curiously when you google "Alabama player arrested" the articles are also about Auburn players getting arrested for Armed Robbery, LSU players, other SEC schools ... kind of goes to the OP's "Another SEC Player arrested - Shocking!" (I keep getting visions of Claude Rains saying that line while folding a bundle of money, ahem, speaking of the SEC)</I>

Once again, nothing to do with the discussion at hand. I'll let you in on the secret in a little while.

<I>The folks at schools like LSU or Alabama do expect those that have stepped out of the lines won't miss any action or at most 1 game. Since winning does matter most there, doesn't it.</I>

Sweet now you're doing the exact same thing he is. Baseless claims. You bring up arrests that anybody the pays attention to cfb would know about, yet you don't continue with the crucial second step of showing how Alabama breaks their back to get that person back on the field as quickly as possible. Since you want to bring up the Barron arrest, I'll shed some light on that as well. Barron was arrested for withholding information regarding a relative. Yeah dumb move on his part and it's easy for people to say that when it doesn't involve their family, but that's hardly reflective of any winning at any cost mantra. No Floyd-like DUIing, no Calloway-like smoking some weed, but withholding information regarding some thug family member.

<I>BTW, in your quixotic quest to defend the honor of "schools like LSU or Alabama" you may want to check out the Fulmer Cup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</I>

Awesome. Would have been even more awesome if this wasn't already common knowledge and was relevant in some way. BTW, it's secret time now. My posts were in respond to the claim that Alabama tries their damnedest to get players back out on the field. You can cite arrests and probation until you're blue in the face, but until you link it to Alabama overlooking it to get the players back in uniform, you've really got nothing. Hell, I'll even help you guys out since I'm feeling generous. Robbie Green. Got suspended for doing drugs by the NCAA, Alabama asked if the NCAA could reduce the penalty, NCAA didn't, Alabama said oh well, after the penalty period he did something else to violate team rules and **** Saban off, and now he's gone. And Robbie Green was a crucial part of the secondary, not some random dude that hadn't touched the field. So there's one half-example since you guys seem to be struggling with it so much. You're welcome. But damn, Alabama was really doing a bad job there winning at any cost by kicking him to the curb like that. What's up with that
 

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Whileyou profess not to troll, you don't fail to update the Alabama and ND records in your signature, do you?

Well here's the record that matters:
Alabama 1
Notre Dame 5​

Rofl.

Yeah, I don't fail to update the records, since I support both teams and those are the actual records. WHOA

I know, strange concept. I'll give you a day or two to take it all in. And yeah, real low-blow with the head to head record. It really strikes a nerve, and would so even more if I wasn't an ND fan as well. Really cutting deep there. While you're at it, why don't you link some more head to heads with other teams where ND has an advantage. Pour on the torment, lol.
 

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Also, I dedicate this to the one and only, BGIF. I'm going to show you how much of a troll I am.

http://i.imgur.com/QVdE0.jpg

Student tickets, Alabama ID, and Notre Dame ID. I don't always like to "troll", but when I do, I prefer to go all out. Also, if anybody has any humorous photoshop ideas, feel free lol.

Hopefully this will help with any of your future complications in realizing that I'm both an Alabama and ND fan, and saying something pro-Bama =/= ND troll getting off to everything related to Bama. But yeah, still waiting for those extra head to head matchup results with other teams. To help you out, I did like UGA and GT for a little while before graduating highschool. COMMENCE.
 
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