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IrishLax

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I cannot believe they put Brian Hardin on TV as Bob Diaco LOL
 

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God...Diaco's hair was laid by the gods tonight...He needs a side business of selling hair products...i'd by whatever he was selling...#fact
 

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This is so awesome. What a great night for ND football in general. I took one, little peek at the A&M boards (I had to). It is absolute anarchy over there. I'm talking like ready to storm and protest anarchy.
 
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This is so awesome. What a great night for ND football in general. I took one, little peek at the A&M boards (I had to). It is absolute anarchy over there. I'm talking like ready to storm and protest anarchy.

A&M has a board?
 

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Pardon the ignorance, but is the panel of voters for the Maxwell, Walter Camp, and Heisman awards the same or similar? I have never understood how someone can win one and not the other. In other words, does this make Manti the favorite to win the Heisman now?

I guess this answers my question (per II):
On Saturday night Te’o will not only attempt to win a historic Heisman Trophy and deliver an eighth to Notre Dame, he’ll attempt to pull off a rare Heisman-Maxwell double. In the last 12 years, the two national player of the year awards have agreed just twice (Tim Tebow in ’07 and Cam Newton in ’10).
 
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The Heisman and Maxwell act as each others apologist. Straight truth. In fairness, how often is there one best player in football, (like there is this year)?
 

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The Heisman and Maxwell act as each others apologist. Straight truth. In fairness, how often is there one best player in football, (like there is this year)?

I'm not sure I will ever be convinced that these aren't the same awards voted on by different individuals handing out a different statue. The best player in college football......is the best player in college football. "Player" is singular. Else we should see co-Heisman and co-Maxwell and co-Walter Camp award winners. Clearly, I don't have history on my side as the facts back up your statement. I just personally don't agree with it.
 
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I'm not sure I will ever be convinced that these aren't the same awards voted on by different individuals handing out a different statue. The best player in college football......is the best player in college football. "Player" is singular. Else we should see co-Heisman and co-Maxwell and co-Walter Camp award winners. Clearly, I don't have history on my side as the facts back up your statement. I just personally, don't agree with it.

With a hundred and twenty BCS level institutions fielding a team of eighty-five players, except the SEC where there is no limit, you think there is clearly a best player every year? That is ten thousand two hundred players, plus gray! You think consensus has sensitivity down to 0.00001 every year? Less sensitivity than that revealed the butterfly effect!
 

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With a hundred and twenty BCS level institutions fielding a team of eighty-five players, except the SEC where there is no limit, you think there is clearly a best player every year? That is ten thousand two hundred players, plus gray! You think consensus has sensitivity down to 0.00001 every year? Less sensitivity than that revealed the butterfly effect!

I think my discontent is more towards the multiple awards for "the best player in college football" versus there being numerous candidates who could all win the award any given day. I'm not that naive and stubborn to realize the enormity of the sport and the number of athletes who play it, all of whom could be considered if their season accolades warrant such recognition. It's just a tough pill for me to swallow is all.
 

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Correction...Ward had 6. So Irishillustrated was still wrong.

1993 Heisman Trophy

1993 Johnny Unitas Award

1993 James Sullivan Award

1993 Walter Camp Award

1993 Maxwell Award

1993 Davey O'brien Award
 
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Best part of the evening:

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Correction...Ward had 6. So Irishillustrated was still wrong.

They're not wrong, Teo is still the most decorated player, he just shares that honor with Ward.

I also think Teo gets a nudge for doing it in one year instead of compliling them over a career.

But if he wins the Heisman, then this is all moot.
 
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Bogtrotter07

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No, Irish Illustrated is not wrong. There is only one player that collected 6 awards in one year. And there is only one two time coach of the year.
 

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Isn't he a lock for the Lott Impact Trophy too? So that would be #7.
 

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Manti also won the ARA Sportsmanship Award, a newer award (started in 2005) but still an award.
 

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They're not wrong, Teo is still the most decorated player, he just shares that honor with Ward.

I also think Teo gets a nudge for doing it in one year instead of compliling them over a career.
But if he wins the Heisman, then this is all moot.

Ward also did it in one year......1993.
 
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