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Not me. I'll wait until then court has a different t makeup to throw outrageous concerns and fund efforts to delegitimize checks and balances.
Polling will nearly always provide whatever you want them to provide.
 

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Right, and Biden is proposing passing legislation, not amending the constitution with his act
Considering what has been found in the last few years when the onion got peeled back, something needs to be done, because it's the wild west with these judges when it comes to parties, planes, gifts, etc.

Legislation, amending the Constitution, whatever can be done within the parameters of the law should be considered. Same with term limits. This all became corrupted institution that's supposed to be checks and balances.

I'm sure the Republicans have their own plan on this to counter Biden's. Just like they did with health care.
 

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Considering what has been found in the last few years when the onion got peeled back, something needs to be done, because it's the wild west with these judges when it comes to parties, planes, gifts, etc.

Legislation, amending the Constitution, whatever can be done within the parameters of the law should be considered. Same with term limits. This all became corrupted institution that's supposed to be checks and balances.

I'm sure the Republicans have their own plan on this to counter Biden's. Just like they did with health care.
Term limits on SCOTUS judges is an awful idea. The entire purpose of a lifetime appointment to the court is that the justices rule strictly on their constitutional philosophy and not based on public opinion. If the justices have political futures following their time on the court, it will muddy the waters on the ruling. Is there a single court case that Thomas or others' rulings was likely influenced by a trip they went on?
 

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Term limits on SCOTUS judges is an awful idea. The entire purpose of a lifetime appointment to the court is that the justices rule strictly on their constitutional philosophy and not based on public opinion. If the justices have political futures following their time on the court, it will muddy the waters on the ruling. Is there a single court case that Thomas or others' rulings was likely influenced by a trip they went on?
Great question
 

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Great question
Until I see anything regarding that, this is all political theater led by the Democrats that are upset that the court doesn't agree with them anymore. Hence why the MSM covered Alito's wife's flags and neighborhood disputes with the ferocity they did and have any scandal with Biden
 

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Until I see anything regarding that, this is all political theater led by the Democrats that are upset that the court doesn't agree with them anymore. Hence why the MSM covered Alito's wife's flags and neighborhood disputes with the ferocity they did and have any scandal with Biden

Its probably time for CT to step down, but obviously that's not happening with a Democrat in the White House. There is well beyond enough smoke around this guy to where fire isn't far behind. It probably isn't so much what he did, but that he's not disclosing everything. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and we're all human in the end.

The Court isn't popular right now because a light has been shined on all of this. If these were nine Aldermen in Chicago or members of the US House from California who were Democrats, it would be theater you'd obviously have issue with.

The Federal Courts have probably gone unchecked for decades and the result is the need for ethics reform and accountability. Liberal, conservative, doesn't matter. If you don't follow the rules and or break the law you should be dealt with.
 

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Term limits on SCOTUS judges is an awful idea. The entire purpose of a lifetime appointment to the court is that the justices rule strictly on their constitutional philosophy and not based on public opinion. If the justices have political futures following their time on the court, it will muddy the waters on the ruling. Is there a single court case that Thomas or others' rulings was likely influenced by a trip they went on?
They aren't lifetime appointments anymore anyways. It's become a game of waiting until the right time to step down to benefit your political party.
 

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They aren't lifetime appointments anymore anyways. It's become a game of waiting until the right time to step down to benefit your political party.
Exactly. It's all completely compromised at this point. Speaking engagements with activist organizations, vacations, gifts. I could really give a shit whether or not they have to declare it all and disclose it. None of it should be allowed.

I suppose I have felt this way about members of the Senate and House as well, but there seems to be zero intent in getting the money out of this process whatsoever.
 

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Exactly. It's all completely compromised at this point. Speaking engagements with activist organizations, vacations, gifts. I could really give a shit whether or not they have to declare it all and disclose it. None of it should be allowed.

I suppose I have felt this way about members of the Senate and House as well, but there seems to be zero intent in getting the money out of this process whatsoever.

This would be a good start. I think in general there should be a constitutional amendment to enable legislation that mandates the President, Congresspeople, and Justices to have their personal investments placed into blind trusts during their tenure in office. Speaking engagements are rough, because you are treading on 1st amendment grounds when you ban speaking engagements from which they profit when they become public citizens post-office. But clearly there is influence buying when people can speak on Wallstreet and make six figures for an hours work.
 

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I find it rather odd that this wasn't a big deal when the SC was a liberal majority and RBG was reaping the benefits of her position. What's good for the Goose isn't good for the Gander?
 

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I find it rather odd that this wasn't a big deal when the SC was a liberal majority and RBG was reaping the benefits of her position. What's good for the Goose isn't good for the Gander?
Clarence Thomas fucked it up for everyone.
 

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What did he do that RBG didn't do herself in higher numbers? Did Clarence Thomas' wife also have business before the court that he didn't recuse himself from?
All nine of the current justices have very low favorability right now, especially among Independents. Thomas has been under the microscope the last two years with the luxury trips, the mega donors, etc.

Not sure what to tell you. RBG is dead.
 

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All nine of the current justices have very low favorability right now, especially among Independents. Thomas has been under the microscope the last two years with the luxury trips, the mega donors, etc.

Not sure what to tell you. RBG is dead.

You're *this* close to getting it lmao
 

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You're *this* close to getting it lmao
If he's failing to disclose everything, I suppose that's probably the issue. For the last couple of years it has come out that he forgot to disclose certain trips, gifts, etc.

I think maybe the Dobbs ruling pissed some people off and everyone is all over The Court now. That was two years ago, and it seems like more of the media and public are up the Court's asses about this kind of stuff, particularly Thomas. His troubles seem to have really ramped up about two years ago too.

So if this coming down to whataboutism and everyone is doing it, people are going to go with the most unpopular guy maybe?

I could be wrong though.
 

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If he's failing to disclose everything, I suppose that's probably the issue. For the last couple of years it has come out that he forgot to disclose certain trips, gifts, etc.

I think maybe the Dobbs ruling pissed some people off and everyone is all over The Court now. That was two years ago, and it seems like more of the media and public are up the Court's asses about this kind of stuff, particularly Thomas. His troubles seem to have really ramped up about two years ago too.

So if this coming down to whataboutism and everyone is doing it, people are going to go with the most unpopular guy maybe?

I could be wrong though.
This is the point in the conversation where it becomes "well you see all sides are bad" is smugly said and the whole point of holding people accountable is lost.
 

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Four voted to uphold - smh. Thank you Donald Trump for giving us a SCOTUS leaning the correct direction.
 

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"The comparison to the class of 2027 was even more dramatic. The percentage of Black students enrolled dropped to 5 percent from 15 percent, and the percentage of Hispanic and Latino students dropped to 11 percent from 16 percent. White students made up 37 percent of the new class, compared to 38 percent last year.

The percentage of Asian American students in the class rose to 47 percent from 40 percent. The Supreme Court’s decision was based in part on a lawsuit against Harvard, which claimed that the university had discriminated against Asian American applicants, holding them to a higher academic standard than other racial or ethnic groups."

So this pretty much exactly proves the plaintiffs were 100% correct that these Affirmative Action policies were directly discriminating against Asian Americans
 
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