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Clear that safety out and get Golson in space a few times...
 

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Hi, im a Bama fan, after reading some of the ND fans' thoughts on here, i thought i would give some thoughts if yall want to hear a different perspective.

ND has had a great season, undefeated and you have to respect that, but i am shocked at some of the comments about Alabama and how ND will match up.

First of all, your TE does look good, no doubt, but some members on here are acting like he can't be covered.
If thats the case, shouldn't he have had more than 40 something receptions and 4TD?

I mean why not throw it to him more in the Pitt game and save yourself the drama of overtime, after all, no one can cover him right?

And then someone said that ND has a better passing game than Bama, does anybody read stat sheets?

McCarron leads the nation in passing efficiency with a 173.8 , and has 26TDs and only 3INTs.

Your QB has 11TD and 5 picks and is 64th in the nation is passing efficiency at a 131.8 rating.
Denard Robinson has a 127.4 rating to give you an idea of how mediocre that is.

I do think ND stacks up very good on defense, this could turn out to be an old fashioned slug fest.

I hope to not come off as trash talker, and y'all have every right to be proud of your team after they went undefeated.

I just think some fans are getting carried away, go to a Bama board and you will find some over the top fans too, i try to keep level headed.

Welcome ROLLTide,

I think you have some good points. I also tend to think it's going to be a slug-fest for the most part. I have a healthy respect for 'Bama and think McCarron is a good QB. In ND's case they were bringing up a QB in Golson and I think most on here are optimistic that he continues to play well and his game elevates even more so before January.

ND has been able to wear a lot of teams down with running North/South this year. It'll be interesting to see if Kelly sticks with that against 'Bama. I tend to think that this game will be hard fought with the winner hitting a big pass play or two.
 
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Hi, im a Bama fan, after reading some of the ND fans' thoughts on here, i thought i would give some thoughts if yall want to hear a different perspective.

ND has had a great season, undefeated and you have to respect that, but i am shocked at some of the comments about Alabama and how ND will match up.

First of all, your TE does look good, no doubt, but some members on here are acting like he can't be covered.
If thats the case, shouldn't he have had more than 40 something receptions and 4TD?

I mean why not throw it to him more in the Pitt game and save yourself the drama of overtime, after all, no one can cover him right?

And then someone said that ND has a better passing game than Bama, does anybody read stat sheets?

McCarron leads the nation in passing efficiency with a 173.8 , and has 26TDs and only 3INTs.

Your QB has 11TD and 5 picks and is 64th in the nation is passing efficiency at a 131.8 rating.
Denard Robinson has a 127.4 rating to give you an idea of how mediocre that is.

I do think ND stacks up very good on defense, this could turn out to be an old fashioned slug fest.

I hope to not come off as trash talker, and y'all have every right to be proud of your team after they went undefeated.

I just think some fans are getting carried away, go to a Bama board and you will find some over the top fans too, i try to keep level headed.


Besides your #2 receiver, what injuries do you have going into the game?

What was the result of the 2 DL that were injured in the SEC championship game?
 

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Hi, im a Bama fan, after reading some of the ND fans' thoughts on here, i thought i would give some thoughts if yall want to hear a different perspective.

ND has had a great season, undefeated and you have to respect that, but i am shocked at some of the comments about Alabama and how ND will match up.

First of all, your TE does look good, no doubt, but some members on here are acting like he can't be covered.
If thats the case, shouldn't he have had more than 40 something receptions and 4TD?

I mean why not throw it to him more in the Pitt game and save yourself the drama of overtime, after all, no one can cover him right?

And then someone said that ND has a better passing game than Bama, does anybody read stat sheets?

McCarron leads the nation in passing efficiency with a 173.8 , and has 26TDs and only 3INTs.

Your QB has 11TD and 5 picks and is 64th in the nation is passing efficiency at a 131.8 rating.
Denard Robinson has a 127.4 rating to give you an idea of how mediocre that is.

I do think ND stacks up very good on defense, this could turn out to be an old fashioned slug fest.

I hope to not come off as trash talker, and y'all have every right to be proud of your team after they went undefeated.

I just think some fans are getting carried away, go to a Bama board and you will find some over the top fans too, i try to keep level headed.

We've really taken our offense up a few notches in the late part of the season. Nearly all of those picks came early in the year before our RS freshman learned how to throw it away and before we really let him off the short leash. plus there can be an argument made that your QB's stats are padded by all of the FCS opponents--not to disparage the guy, he's undoubtedly a very solid player. And we have played some easy pass D's too, just not FCS easy.

Why not throw it to him in the Pitt game? I dunno, why didnt you guys just sack Johnny F more? everybody screws the pooch now and then. Really though, our TE demands double coverage. One on one, he's going to win most of the time. His stats arent that high, because we often use him as a decoy/blocking/etc, but if you take a look at the stats from a situational perspective, he's had like 40 catches for 30 first downs and 4 tds or something ridiculous (i made the numbers up, but you get the idea).

I don't think I would go so far as to say our offense is better than yours. But they do what the need to do, when they need to. And we really haven't opened things up yet. With so many young guys in the mix, I think we'll improve a lot during the off time.
 
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Play action, Chris Breezy for 6, first play of the game.

I'm getting so jacked up for this game, there's going to be some emotionally charged, irrational posts about to happen.
 

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Play action, Chris Breezy for 6, first play of the game.

Golson had gone to Brown on that post route about 5 times this season, and they've only connected once. Granted, it happened against OU, but we're gonna be in for a long night if that's our offensive staple in Miami.
 
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Golson had gone to Brown on that post route about 5 times this season, and they've only connected once. Granted, it happened against OU, but we're gonna be in for a long night if that's our offensive staple in Miami.

I know, but it's a low-risk pla, high reward. Brown has always outran the DBs in this pass, so there's little risk for interception. It's a roll out, which means low risk of sack, and it will make the defense respect the arm right off of the bat. That's worst case scenario. Best case scenario? They complete it for 6 and I have a heart attack. If so, and I'm lucky enough to make it to heaven, I'll plead to God immediately for some luck.
 

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Fair points but Eifert has to be doubled. That's why we are saying we match up well in the pass. TJ Jones has emerged as another solid option in the passing attack as the season has progressed. We are by no means saying we're going to throw for 300 yards or destroy your secondary, but I think we can test it more than Georgia bc Eifert can line up as a TE/WR, and Riddick can line up as RB/WR. Put a LB on Eifert or Riddick and it isn't going to be pretty. Play a safety or corner on Eifert and he'll out jump them. I have no doubt Saban will come up with the best may to mitigate their impact.
Last years Bama defense was legendary, i still can't believe we lost to LSU at home, but thats another story.
This year defense is good, but has some flaws and inexperience, it wouldn't surprise me if ND made a few plays in the passing game, i would be more surprised if y'all ran the ball with a lot of success.
If Te'o and company can shut down Bamas' running game, it could get interesting, McCarron has had some great games this year, but can go into a funk sometimes, it's been rumored that his shoulder has been sore lately, so maybe the time off will help.
 

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Hi, im a Bama fan, after reading some of the ND fans' thoughts on here, i thought i would give some thoughts if yall want to hear a different perspective.

ND has had a great season, undefeated and you have to respect that, but i am shocked at some of the comments about Alabama and how ND will match up.

First of all, your TE does look good, no doubt, but some members on here are acting like he can't be covered.
If thats the case, shouldn't he have had more than 40 something receptions and 4TD?

I mean why not throw it to him more in the Pitt game and save yourself the drama of overtime, after all, no one can cover him right?

And then someone said that ND has a better passing game than Bama, does anybody read stat sheets?

McCarron leads the nation in passing efficiency with a 173.8 , and has 26TDs and only 3INTs.

Your QB has 11TD and 5 picks and is 64th in the nation is passing efficiency at a 131.8 rating.
Denard Robinson has a 127.4 rating to give you an idea of how mediocre that is.

I do think ND stacks up very good on defense, this could turn out to be an old fashioned slug fest.

I hope to not come off as trash talker, and y'all have every right to be proud of your team after they went undefeated.

I just think some fans are getting carried away, go to a Bama board and you will find some over the top fans too, i try to keep level headed.

Welcome to IE! We could always use more perspective. As long as you stay level headed and don't resort to trolling or trash talk, you should enjoy your time on this board, and we will enjoy your company.

Golson has developed a ton over the course of this season and really started to blossom in the last couple games. That's why we are hyping him up so much. Golson will be hard to sack and Alabama will have to dedicate a player to spy on him especially on third downs as he is very nimble.

I don't doubt McCarron is a great game manager, but I have seen three Bama games this year and he seems to under-throw his receivers quite often. There is a reason Saban didn't let him throw at all in the second half of the SEC championship game.

I am looking forward to seeing both of our lines match up. This game will be brutal for the guys in the trenches.
 
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Welcome to IE! We could always use more perspective. As long as you stay level headed and don't resort to trolling or trash talk, you should enjoy your time on this board and we will enjoy your company.

Golson has developed a ton over the course of this season and really started to blossom in the last couple games. That's why we are hyping him up so much. Golson will be hard to sack and Alabama will have to dedicate a player to spy on him especially on third downs as he is very nimble.

I don't doubt McCarron is a great game manager, but I have seen three Bama games this year and he seems to under-throw his receivers quite often. There is a reason Saban didn't let him throw at all in the second half of the SEC championship game.

I am looking forward to seeing both of our lines match up. This game will be brutal for the guys in the trenches.

Yea, lets think about Lacey and the Oline before we say these things about AJ

Go Irish
 
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Besides your #2 receiver, what injuries do you have going into the game?

What was the result of the 2 DL that were injured in the SEC championship game?
We've lost some offensive players for the year, including WR Bell, he wont be back for the game.

But the new injuries should be OK after some time off.
Both the starting NT and his backup were banged up against Georgia and the Center was on crutches after the game.
But i don't think any of it was very serious.
 

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Welcome to IE! We could always use more perspective. As long as you stay level headed and don't resort to trolling or trash talk, you should enjoy your time on this board, and we will enjoy your company.

Golson has developed a ton over the course of this season and really started to blossom in the last couple games. That's why we are hyping him up so much. Golson will be hard to sack and Alabama will have to dedicate a player to spy on him especially on third downs as he is very nimble.

I don't doubt McCarron is a great game manager, but I have seen three Bama games this year and he seems to under-throw his receivers quite often. There is a reason Saban didn't let him throw at all in the second half of the SEC championship game.

I am looking forward to seeing both of our lines match up. This game will be brutal for the guys in the trenches.
Ill have to watch the USC again, the guy that stood out to me was Riddick, looks like a versatile guy.

It's true McCarron is kind of a game manager, part of that is just the way Saban coaches, he hates turnovers and risk taking from the QB position.
The McCarron to Cooper connection has really been big this year though, and we've had some 300 yard passing games this year, pretty rare for the Saban era, who usually just runs the ball down everybodys throat.
 

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Ill have to watch the USC again, the guy that stood out to me was Riddick, looks like a versatile guy.

It's true McCarron is kind of a game manager, part of that is just the way Saban coaches, he hates turnovers and risk taking from the QB position.
The McCarron to Cooper connection has really been big this year though, and we've had some 300 yard passing games this year, pretty rare for the Saban era, who usually just runs the ball down everybodys throat.

I guess to me, the question is: If ND can stop Bama's running game and make McCarron beat us, can he do it? And I don't mean by occasionally throwing deep like he did vs. Georgia - because we haven't let that happen much either - but consistently making short/medium passes to move the chains.
That's what we give, and so far no one we've played has been good enough to beat us that way.
Of course, if it turns out ND can't stop Bama's running game, the question is largely moot.
 

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I guess to me, the question is: If ND can stop Bama's running game and make McCarron beat us, can he do it? And I don't mean by occasionally throwing deep like he did vs. Georgia - because we haven't let that happen much either - but consistently making short/medium passes to move the chains.
That's what we give, and so far no one we've played has been good enough to beat us that way.
Of course, if it turns out ND can't stop Bama's running game, the question is largely moot.
Thats a good question, his accuracy hasn't been as good lately, and there were rumors that he has a shoulder issue that they didn't report.
Time off and extra game planning would help.
He does have BCSCG experience from last year, and he played good against LSUs defense in that game and they were loaded with NFL level DBs and pass rushers.
 

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Besides your #2 receiver, what injuries do you have going into the game?

What was the result of the 2 DL that were injured in the SEC championship game?

Well we have had about 7 major contributers go down for the season. We dont have starters per say but just groupings. You will hear this over the next month.

Both DL come back in and both should be good to go, the one that had the dirty hit will prob get some kind of suspension, maybe a whole game, might only be half, may be none at all. DL has been the undersung group although we dont rush the passer at an elite level. We do how ever get some sacks and stuff the run very well.

Every wr has missed a game at some point, with 2 down and out for the season. Amari nor Yeldon were starters or planned major contributers. Norwood is a good wr and has great hands, he came on really strong last year in naty game, and cuaght all the balls on the LSU drive. If you expect to to try and double Amari he can make you pay.

We lost the #2 and #3 Rb pretty early. as well as Lacy and Yeldon have been banged up quite a bit, but this unit has been very good.

AJ has had a knee get banged up, a shoulder and has been having back problems since LSU. Really hope he gets well and gets back to his old self.

A fall practice transfer at Cb has us pretty thin there, and some injuries have left us with a freshman Geno Smith getting quite a few snaps these last 3 games. The bright spot is, he has been very good, maybe better than the starter Belue.

We come in stacked at safety and really stoked about the pair or sometimes in our shceme 3 , for the start of the season. All american Lester has not performed terrible by any means but basically plateaued so to speak and not taken his game to that next level like some had hoped. We then lost Perry for the year in fall practice, and while HaHa has been good he is young and has made some mistakes. Sunseri was destined our up and comer and one of the bright spots and he has just not panned out. He has made some plays but gets burnt often. Your TE poses a big problem here if Vinnie gets the nod in that role. I dont expect to see much of him though as through the season he has seen less and less snaps.

LBs are very good and have played well, no real injuries here. CJ is one of the best in the country.

OL is one of the best units in the country, no need to go any further.
 
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Thats a good question, his accuracy hasn't been as good lately, and there were rumors that he has a shoulder issue that they didn't report.
Time off and extra game planning would help.
He does have BCSCG experience from last year, and he played good against LSUs defense in that game and they were loaded with NFL level DBs and pass rushers.

He definitely played well in that game. The thing that impresses me most about your team though is that you guys play hard despite being up 20 or down 20. Well coached team, it'll be tough to get you off balance especially with so much time to prepare.
 

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Thats a good question, his accuracy hasn't been as good lately, and there were rumors that he has a shoulder issue that they didn't report.
Time off and extra game planning would help.
He does have BCSCG experience from last year, and he played good against LSUs defense in that game and they were loaded with NFL level DBs and pass rushers.

Welcome, hope to have some good, solid banter with you!!! :bigsmile:

I am one of those guys that likes the players but is not too favorable to the team..... Kinda like how I liked Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Darryl Johnston, Irvin, Harper.... but could and can not stand the Cowboys.

Same with alabama, I like A.J. and think he has incredible field presence, and Lacy reminds me a lot of Ron Dayne. Defense is stout too.

But just so you know, I didn't like Jimmy Johnson and I don't like camera loving Saban. Great coaches, just don't like 'em....

We'll just see how it goes with you....:wink:

GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!

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Saban camera loving? He hates the camera with a passion, he would be in heaven if he didnt have to deal with the press. That is the reason he comes off as an ******* all the time. That and stupid reporters asking dumb questions.
 

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Saban camera loving? He hates the camera with a passion, he would be in heaven if he didnt have to deal with the press. That is the reason he comes off as an ******* all the time. That and stupid reporters asking dumb questions.

I didn't say the press.... I said the camera,.... every interview before the game, half-time, after.... he is staring right into that lens....

I do agree that reporters do ask stupid questions, I wish Richt would have walked down and bitch-slapped that reporter after the game yesterday.....

GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!

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Welcome, hope to have some good, solid banter with you!!! :bigsmile:

I am one of those guys that likes the players but is not too favorable to the team..... Kinda like how I liked Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Darryl Johnston, Irvin, Harper.... but could and can not stand the Cowboys.

Same with alabama, I like A.J. and think he has incredible field presence, and Lacy reminds me a lot of Ron Dayne. Defense is stout too.

But just so you know, I didn't like Jimmy Johnson and I don't like camera loving Saban. Great coaches, just don't like 'em....

We'll just see how it goes with you....:wink:

GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!

Diz
Saban is one of those guys that you don't like........

Until he's coaching your favorite team LOL.

I never cared much for him before, but he's just wired a little different than most coaches, doesn't smile and celebrate very much, just moves on to the next challenge.

I have grown to appreciate him, BSC Championships are becoming a common occurrence, pretty easy to like his style now that he's on my side.
 

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So refreshing to have tide fans come and discuss instead of dropping crap about how their titles are legit and ours aren't and just flt out causing stuff...

cheers and good luck
 

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Saban is one of those guys that you don't like........

Until he's coaching your favorite team LOL.

I never cared much for him before, but he's just wired a little different than most coaches, doesn't smile and celebrate very much, just moves on to the next challenge.

I have grown to appreciate him, BSC Championships are becoming a common occurrence, pretty easy to like his style now that he's on my side.

Well, it goes a little further back with us Irish folk brother.... he once coached at a little state college in meechicken...... the Spartans...... we didn't like him then either!!!!!! :evil:

GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!!

Diz
 

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This would actually work in Bama's favor. They have more than enough DL depth to keep their guys fresh and our front seven needs as much rest as possible between possessions against that monster OL.
You think it would work in Bama's favor? I am looking at it like this; we aren't going to outsmart Saban. At best we are looking at a chess match. If we find a package and get one up on him, wouldnt it benefit us to go into the hurry up so that he can't sub and is forced to burn a timeout?

I am looking at it as a fight. Play cat and house, move in and move out, and when you catch your opponent off guard, go after him hard with every combination you can throw until he either backs out or wraps you up and the ref jumps in.

I'm not saying go no huddle all game, just when we find a hole in his defense. Letting Saban adjust will cost us. Take him out of his game by controlling the tempo and clock.
 

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This would actually work in Bama's favor. They have more than enough DL depth to keep their guys fresh and our front seven needs as much rest as possible between possessions against that monster OL.
You think it would work in Bama's favor? I am looking at it like this; we aren't going to outsmart Saban. At best we are looking at a chess match. If we find a package and get one up on him, wouldnt it benefit us to go into the hurry up so that he can't sub and is forced to burn a timeout?

I am looking at it as a fight. Play cat and house, move in and move out, and when you catch your opponent off guard, go after him hard with every combination you can throw until he either backs out or wraps you up and the ref jumps in.

I'm not saying go no huddle all game, just when we find a hole in his defense. Letting Saban adjust will cost us. Take him out of his game by controlling the tempo and clock.

That is exactly how you do it, plus you have to some big plays, capatalize on any and all of Bama's mistakes and not make any of your own or at least very few.

Bama is 49-0 under Saban when rushing for 150 yards or more. You will have to stop the run and that is whole lot easier said than done.
 

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Is it fair to say that Saban struggles against dual threat QB's? Bama is 59-7 with Saban. 6 of the losses came against Tebow, Cam Newton, Stephen Garcia, Jordan Jefferson (twice), and Johnny Football.

IDK if you can call Jefferson or Garcial dual threats. Maybe Saban just ran into some sick QB's. I just looked at bama's losses and noticed who the QB's were. Not sure if this works...
 

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streaks are made to end though... 49-0 with 150, seven titles in a row, Saban in BCS games...

it's all gonna end eventually... we shall see if any of those end on the seventh.
 

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This would actually work in Bama's favor. They have more than enough DL depth to keep their guys fresh and our front seven needs as much rest as possible between possessions against that monster OL.
You think it would work in Bama's favor? I am looking at it like this; we aren't going to outsmart Saban. At best we are looking at a chess match. If we find a package and get one up on him, wouldnt it benefit us to go into the hurry up so that he can't sub and is forced to burn a timeout?

I am looking at it as a fight. Play cat and house, move in and move out, and when you catch your opponent off guard, go after him hard with every combination you can throw until he either backs out or wraps you up and the ref jumps in.

I'm not saying go no huddle all game, just when we find a hole in his defense. Letting Saban adjust will cost us. Take him out of his game by controlling the tempo and clock.

We can go no huddle with Riddick and Eifert on the field to give us great versatility in our formations. We can go single back, 1 TE and shift to 5 WR with the same personnel which would prevent Saban from subbing and attempting to slow us down. Even if it isn't overly effective, it'd still **** him off, so I'm for it.
 

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We can go no huddle with Riddick and Eifert on the field to give us great versatility in our formations. We can go single back, 1 TE and shift to 5 WR with the same personnel which would prevent Saban from subbing and attempting to slow us down. Even if it isn't overly effective, it'd still **** him off, so I'm for it.


It might **** off Saban. But for all the talk about up-tempo offense under Kelly, we have done it very little. Given the noise and inevitable nerves, the caliber of Alabama's defense and how quickly an "up-tempo" offense can go off the rails, I'd be very surprised if we start on Jan. 7.
 

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Re: Eifert

First 5 games: 11 receptions, 189 yards, 1 touchdown
Last 7 games: 33 receptions, 435 yards, 3 touchdowns
 
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