ACC Officiating

[arrowryan]

The officiating this year has been so bad. The worst I have ever seen; to the point where I think it deserves its own thread.

Yesterday we had:
-The Logan Diggs touchdown wasn’t even close. His butt was clearly on the turf before the ball crossed the goal line.
-The Marist Liufau fumble return. Why do you blow it dead? Let it play out and review it after. Worst case scenario, you reverse it and everything is fine.

It’s been like this all season. I’m not just complaining about the calls that went against the Irish. They’ve benefited from bad calls too. The ACC commissioner needs to address this asap. I see there was a terrible no call in the Michigan-Illinois game too.

 

[IrishLax]

There needs to be national refs in regional pods.

 

[ab2cmiller]

The officiating this year has been so bad. The worst I have ever seen; to the point where I think it deserves its own thread.

Yesterday we had:
-The Logan Diggs touchdown wasn’t even close. His butt was clearly on the turf before the ball crossed the goal line.
-The Marist Liufau fumble return. Why do you blow it dead? Let it play out and review it after. Worst case scenario, you reverse it and everything is fine.

It’s been like this all season. I’m not just complaining about the calls that went against the Irish. They’ve benefited from bad calls too. The ACC commissioner needs to address this asap. I see there was a terrible no call in the Michigan-Illinois game too.

I was at the game and I watched the replay. I heard no whistle, I saw no referee signaling incomplete or waving off the play in any manner. I think they did let it play out and got together afterwards and decided incomplete pass.

The logical side of me says if there was no whistle, the overturn of the play should allow for the return to stand. I think it's possible that the rules are written in a way that states if it was ruled incomplete on the field, and it's overturned, their can't be any advance because it assumes that a ref blew a whistle to call it dead. In this case that didn't happen IMO.

 

[NorthDakota]

My fav penalty of the year was that phantom offsides call on Cal (I think?)

 

[IrishLion]

Probably better to put it in the NFL thread, but it feels like officiating at ALL levels is just bad these days.

The NFL has been a clown show this year outside their top-of-the-line crews. The officiating in CIN/PIT yesterday was baaaaaad (plz don't call me a Bengals homer, those PI calls in the first half were a farce, as was the no-call on the late hit on Joe Burrow, AS WAS an uncalled unnecessary roughness on Eli Apple for getting Friermuth with a flying knee while defending a pass).

It's like officials at both major levels swing to both extremes this year worse than previously: egregious missed/no-calls, and egregious phantom calls.

It used to be that if the refs were 'letting 'em play,' it would at least be consistent. Or if they knew they missed a call, you could count on an appropriately weighted 'makeup' call relatively quickly to balance the scales.

There is zero rhyme or reason to officials and the control they have over games, lately.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

to the point where I think it deserves its own thread.

Moderators, take note.

 

[irishff1014]

Probably better to put it in the NFL thread, but it feels like officiating at ALL levels is just bad these days.

The NFL has been a clown show this year outside their top-of-the-line crews. The officiating in CIN/PIT yesterday was baaaaaad (plz don't call me a Bengals homer, those PI calls in the first half were a farce, as was the no-call on the late hit on Joe Burrow, AS WAS an uncalled unnecessary roughness on Eli Apple for getting Friermuth with a flying knee while defending a pass).

It's like officials at both major levels swing to both extremes this year worse than previously: egregious missed/no-calls, and egregious phantom calls.

It used to be that if the refs were 'letting 'em play,' it would at least be consistent. Or if they knew they missed a call, you could count on an appropriately weighted 'makeup' call relatively quickly to balance the scales.

There is zero rhyme or reason to officials and the control they have over games, lately.

I think this is officials in every sport though. They are seeing it in real time just like we are. However within seconds we can see the play from 4 different angles in slow motion. And that does hurt the officials.

The fumble/ backwards pass on Sat screwed ND. Everyone knew that pass went backwards. We got the worse case scenario. But they could have let the play continue on and then go to review. They need to do a better job of letting things play out then let replay work.

 

[greyhammer90]

It's crazy to me that they haven't instituted some sort of sensors in the ball or advanced tech for ball placement. You see the level of detail to which soccer can use 3D models to determine whether or not someone is offsides, and we've got a bunch of old guys guesstimating where the ball "probably" got to on crucial downs and distances.



Seems like it shouldn't be that hard to have a sensor in the ball that times up with the replay, and if the ball sensor says "I crossed the line at this moment" or "I was at this yard line at this particular moment" in the action, and then we look to see if/when the knee was down, etc. It doesn't even really get rid of the human element because you're still needing to look for a body part hitting turf or out of bounds. I don't think you need to do this for every single down, but there are obvious moments of great importance where the refs are clearly just making up spots or guessing.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

The officiating this year has been so bad. The worst I have ever seen; to the point where I think it deserves its own thread.

Yesterday we had:
-The Logan Diggs touchdown wasn’t even close. His butt was clearly on the turf before the ball crossed the goal line.
-The Marist Liufau fumble return. Why do you blow it dead? Let it play out and review it after. Worst case scenario, you reverse it and everything is fine.

It’s been like this all season. I’m not just complaining about the calls that went against the Irish. They’ve benefited from bad calls too. The ACC commissioner needs to address this asap. I see there was a terrible no call in the Michigan-Illinois game too.

Don’t let Bert fool ya. There were missed calls favoring both teams that game. I hate scUM as much as anyone but that’s not the reason Illinois lost.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Probably better to put it in the NFL thread, but it feels like officiating at ALL levels is just bad these days.

I think this is officials in every sport though. They are seeing it in real time just like we are. However within seconds we can see the play from 4 different angles in slow motion. And that does hurt the officials.

I agree on both fronts. There are still some MLB umpires who when they are behind the plate are just awful. There are parody Twitter accounts dedicated to how bad they are.

World Football has become unwatchable due to VAR. Every goal gets reveiwed similar to every touchdown in American Football. I'm sure it's worse live, but even at home I get bored watching the same play 8 times on replay while the game is stopped. The Diggs TD was an example.

Some of them are clearly bad and missing things they're looking at right in the open. Other times it happens in real time and it's hard to catch. Then we have the benefit of seeing multiple replays slowed down.