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Jiggafini19Deux

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NDhoosier said:
What PSU did was awful regarding the coverup, but I highly doubt that effects recruits today. It is a totally different program and everyone from the Paterno/Sandusky era is gone. I have a hard time believing any HS recruit is going to be like "I like your school, but what about that child sex scandal that happened when I was just a wee lad (possibly not even born yet)."
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While all of this is true, the culture that allowed it all to happen to begin with still percolates there today within their alumni, fanbase, community, etc. That's something that doesn't really go away.

You go THAT far to protect a couple of coaches and a football program, there is something deeply rooted there that doesn't just leave a mark when its over.

As far as current recruits, you're right. Right now you were probably in preschool at the oldest if you're a senior in HS when all of this news broke. It's not going to be an issue for these players, nor has it been for the last decade among all the others who have passed through the program.

I think PSU's current issue is that they've gone a bit stale perhaps. Franklin still can't beat Ohio State or Michigan somewhat regularly and has gained a reputation as the guy who can't win the big game. Notre Dame is a little more "it" right now on top of beating them on the field a few months ago. Some programs have adapted quickly to this new era of college football. I'm wondering if Penn State is among that group. I would say many other programs have adapted better than others. PSU might be struggling some.

Not losing sleep on that.
 
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NDty9 said:
I have to bartend tonight at a local Notre Dame bar in Rochester NY…… if all goes well at 7:15 pm EST, free celebratory shots of Jameson will be handed out if anyone wants to stop in! Hahaha

(Or I’ll take them myself !!)
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What bar?
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
What's fun about all of this is that it comes off of a 14-2 season.

Winning on and off the field is about as good as it gets, and it ultimately gets us closer to the ultimate goal.
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ND had some good teams and won a lot of games under Kelly, especially from 2017 onward. Some really good, even great, players came though during his tenure.


But, man, this just feels different.
 
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Huntr said:
ND had some good teams and won a lot of games under Kelly, especially from 2017 onward. Some really good, even great, players came though during his tenure.


But, man, this just feels different.
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It is different. Kelly had good teams but did you ever really believe they could hang with Bama, Clemson, Ohio State in that era? Notre Dame was B tier. In terms of the college football pecking order, they were on par with Oklahoma, Oregon, Washington, Penn State. Playoff contenders, but not championship level teams.

I am not saying they are A tier just yet, but Freeman and the staff have closed that gap. The talent and depth on this team has never been this good in my lifetime. And if Freeman continues to grow, this is just the beginning.
 
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jason_h537 said:
It is different. Kelly had good teams but did you ever really believe they could hang with Bama, Clemson, Ohio State in that era? Notre Dame was B tier. In terms of the college football pecking order, they were on par with Oklahoma, Oregon, Washington, Penn State. Playoff contenders, but not championship level teams.

I am not saying they are A tier just yet, but Freeman and the staff have closed that gap. The talent and depth on this team has never been this good in my lifetime. And if Freeman continues to grow, this is just the beginning.
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100%. Every BK game was holding your breath to make sure they didnt choke to sub .500 teams.
 
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Fbolt said:
Many mentioned to the Woe is Me recruiting crowd that all ND had to do was Win. This is what Winning looks like (y)!
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That's ultimately what it boils down to. The guys who got us there came via leaps of faith. They've put down one hell of a foundation.

9 wins, 10 wins, 14 wins. That's how you build a program. I'm beyond excited for this season more than ever. Last year was more joy than I've experienced being a fan of this program in a very, very long time. A certain loss to a certain Illinois directional school cast a pretty long shadow of doubt, but what an absolute RESPONSE to adversity that came afterward.

Ride the wave while you can.
 
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