'25 MS QB Deuce Knight Auburn Verbal Ole Miss ???

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Quarterback
Lucedale, MS
George County

Measurements
Ht: 6'4"
Wt: 185

Ratings
247: .................. :s::s::s::s: #8 QB, #66 OA, 93 Rating
247 Comp: ..... :s::s::s::s: #8 QB, #51 OA, .9729
Rivals: ............... :s::s::s::s: #1 QB-D, #52 OA, 5.9
ESPN: ................ :s::s::s::s: #2 QB-D, #133 OA, 82
On3: ................. :s::s::s::s: #6 QB, #54 OA, 94


Offers
Notre Dame ......... Offered 3-17-23 ....... Committed 9-18-23
Auburn
Bama
Colorado
Georgia
Indiana
Louisville
Memphis
Miami
Mississippi St
Oregon
Ole Miss
S Carolina
TCU
Tennessee
Texas A&M
Tulsa
USF
Vandy
Va Tech
Washington
FAMU
JSU
SoMiss

 
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I lived in South Bend area for 4 years. I never once felt “unsafe”. I only ventured south of Eddy St a few times and it wasn’t a place I’d walk alone at midnight, but why would most students do so anyways? Mishawaka, Granger, Notre Dame and Southwest Michigan were all extremely safe feeling.
Yep, I've lived in South Bend my entire life other than when I joined the military, so almost 40yrs now. Like you mentioned, and like most cities in general, it just depends on where you go. There's nothing so inherently dangerous about South Bend that people should reconsider living here. It largely depends on the people you surround yourself with, and ND football players shouldn't have any issues in that regard, their campus is like a mini-city in itself. If anything, I'd think that it would be safer for some of these players to get away from their hometown where they could be negatively influenced by their old friends from HS
 

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Why would I? I’ve been there. I just don’t see what the draw is.

When I was a kid (80’s) you wouldn’t even want to be where Eddy St is. It’s improved a lot and seems to be continuing to do so. But I don’t see the draw to go south of Trader Joe’s. Unless you need to go to the ER. Even then I’d head to Mishawaka.
South Bend has some nice revitalized areas, but the sketchy parts encroach really closely to nicer areas. But I suppose that’s a lot of rust belt towns anymore.
 

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Yep, I've lived in South Bend my entire life other than when I joined the military, so almost 40yrs now. Like you mentioned, and like most cities in general, it just depends on where you go. There's nothing so inherently dangerous about South Bend that people should reconsider living here. It largely depends on the people you surround yourself with, and ND football players shouldn't have any issues in that regard, their campus is like a mini-city in itself. If anything, I'd think that it would be safer for some of these players to get away from their hometown where they could be negatively influenced by their old friends from HS
This here.
Citywide crime stats have no bearing on the life of a student at Notre Dame. Twenty-five years ago the neighborhood south of campus was a little rough, but even then many students lived there with no problem. And it has changed massively since then, basically an extension of campus now. There are parts of town, especially the west side, that are rougher. But little reason for Notre Dame kids to go there. And even if they do, they will probably be just fine. Crime doesn't generally go looking for people who aren't looking for it.
 

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This here.
Citywide crime stats have no bearing on the life of a student at Notre Dame. Twenty-five years ago the neighborhood south of campus was a little rough, but even then many students lived there with no problem. And it has changed massively since then, basically an extension of campus now. There are parts of town, especially the west side, that are rougher. But little reason for Notre Dame kids to go there. And even if they do, they will probably be just fine. Crime doesn't generally go looking for people who aren't looking for it.
I’d dare to guess that crime rates on ND’s campus and surrounding area is lower than that of most universities per capita. I felt very safe there. It’s a tranquil place to be. There’s a quiet, religious-like aura about the place at night. I’ve prayed at the Grotto long after dark. Very peaceful.
 
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I’d dare to guess that crime rates on ND’s campus and surrounding area is lower than that of most universities per capita. I felt very safe there. It’s a tranquil place to be. There’s a quiet, religious-like aura about the place at night. I’ve prayed at the Grotto long after dark. Very peaceful.
Same..walked around at night, went to Grotto, never felt unsafe when I was there 2001-2003
 

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If Deuce is going to decommit he is going to the wrong school, if it were up to me to flip between Ole Miss & Auburn I would pick Ole Miss.

I hope this isn't going to turn out like the Peyton Bowen recruitment, he knew all along he was going to Oklahoma, and he strung along ND.

Deuce has been to ND 12 times?? While recruiting has gone dormant, hopefully when the season starts our production on the field can gain some momentum back into recruiting.

I want Deuce to be a part of this class, but if he decommits ND can 100% build off CJ Carr where he'll see greener grass.
 

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If Deuce is going to decommit he is going to the wrong school, if it were up to me to flip between Ole Miss & Auburn I would pick Ole Miss.

I hope this isn't going to turn out like the Peyton Bowen recruitment, he knew all along he was going to Oklahoma, and he strung along ND.

Deuce has been to ND 12 times?? While recruiting has gone dormant, hopefully when the season starts our production on the field can gain some momentum back into recruiting.

I want Deuce to be a part of this class, but if he decommits ND can 100% build off CJ Carr where he'll see greener grass.
His recruitment is getting kind of wild. Coming to ND to visit that many times is crazy. Sounds like he loves ND but just wanted to take visits, hard not to if serious cash was offered. Could see him going in a few different directions but like ND's chances. Really wish he'd reaffirm his commitment to ND though after recent visits.
 

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His recruitment is getting kind of wild. Coming to ND to visit that many times is crazy. Sounds like he loves ND but just wanted to take visits, hard not to if serious cash was offered. Could see him going in a few different directions but like ND's chances. Really wish he'd reaffirm his commitment to ND though after recent visits.
I agree with you. Confirm to ND you are shutting down your recruitment and 100% committed to ND. You have to wonder if the July WR recruiting efforts made him reconsider, before the NIL era once you had a QB committed like Deuce other recruits wanted to join him.

Some recruits are chasing the $$$ and not championships.
 

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ND needs to start to win, just win and some of these neg recruiting tactics won't be as effective. JUST WIN.
If that were true, BK would have been able to land too qb while going to final four / bcs championship

Game has changed

It’s not just about winning anymore
 

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If that were true, BK would have been able to land too qb while going to final four / bcs championship

Game has changed

It’s not just about winning anymore
Winning would help a coach like Freeman more. He is an aggressive recruiter, kids truly like him and he's committed to the school. He just needs a winning program now to prove that he knows what hes doing.
It was beginning to pay off for Brian in 2012 until he started to flirt with the NFL right after the BCS game.
 

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Winning would help a coach like Freeman more. He is an aggressive recruiter, kids truly like him and he's committed to the school. He just needs a winning program now to prove that he knows what hes doing.
It was beginning to pay off for Brian in 2012 until he started to flirt with the NFL right after the BCS game.
Winning never hurts of course, but if playing for a winning program was the primary concern in this case, Auburn and Ole Miss wouldn't be the schools we're worried about.
 

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Winning never hurts of course, but if playing for a winning program was the primary concern in this case, Auburn and Ole Miss wouldn't be the schools we're worried about.
I understand what you’re saying. My point is him showing that he can create a winning program is that last thing that he can control. There is nothing he can do about location or the fact that ND is an educational institution. Adding a winning culture to everything else the program is doing will help.
 

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I understand what you’re saying. My point is him showing that he can create a winning program is that last thing that he can control. There is nothing he can do about location or the fact that ND is an educational institution. Adding a winning culture to everything else the program is doing will help.
Since 2017, only four teams have won more games than we have. If we don't have a "winning culture," very very few programs do.
 

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We might have more wins than LSU, but we we severely lack “high points” over this stretch, the biggest probably being beating Clemson without Trevor Lawrence, only to get blown out by him a month later. Big wins matter over big time teams matter so much for perception.
 

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The argument can be made that it was Kellys culture.
It can. The argument can also be made that Freeman was hired to continue and grow and modernize that culture, not to replace it.

Our program has some challenges when it comes to landing elite recruits, especially from the South. But I don't think our culture, or our win-loss record, is really one of them.
 

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It can. The argument can also be made that Freeman was hired to continue and grow and modernize that culture, not to replace it.

Our program has some challenges when it comes to landing elite recruits, especially from the South. But I don't think our culture, or our win-loss record, is really one of them.
Can you please stop debating me. My wife doesn’t let me win arguments, I can’t have that from this board too.
 

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I agree with you. Confirm to ND you are shutting down your recruitment and 100% committed to ND. You have to wonder if the July WR recruiting efforts made him reconsider, before the NIL era once you had a QB committed like Deuce other recruits wanted to join him.

Some recruits are chasing the $$$ and not championships.
I think it’s backwards on the point regarding WRs. I think most of those kids knew Knight wasn’t as solid as we publicly thought.
 

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We might have more wins than LSU, but we we severely lack “high points” over this stretch, the biggest probably being beating Clemson without Trevor Lawrence, only to get blown out by him a month later. Big wins matter over big time teams matter so much for perception.
Sorely lacking in big dubs. Agreed
 

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Why would I? I’ve been there. I just don’t see what the draw is.

When I was a kid (80’s) you wouldn’t even want to be where Eddy St is. It’s improved a lot and seems to be continuing to do so. But I don’t see the draw to go south of Trader Joe’s. Unless you need to go to the ER. Even then I’d head to Mishawaka.
Idk, the Sunnymede / Potawatomi area has improved greatly since I was in college.

South Bend isn’t some war zone, it’s just an overall shitty, depressing, rundown place. Other than being cheap, it’s got very few redeeming qualities. The best thing about it is its proximity to Chicago and the lake.
 

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Hahahaha, you have to add grain the last few months to build some marbling, which is where the taste comes from ... 'the presence of marbling has an extremely positive effect on the eating quality of beef, in terms of tenderness, juiciness/moisture and flavor'. The fat makes the meat softer and easier to chew!
 

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Why I’ve been saying knight hasn’t done a good job recruiting for us

Knight was the main point of contact for all of the staffs top offensive targets. It’s not that he didn’t do his job, and was lacking, it’s just that those recruits chose different schools for different reasons.
 

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Knight was the main point of contact for all of the staffs top offensive targets. It’s not that he didn’t do his job, and was lacking, it’s just that those recruits chose different schools for different reasons.
Disagree. Kids talk. They probably get hints from Knight and other teammates that he wasn’t solid to ND.
 

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Knight was the main point of contact for all of the staffs top offensive targets. It’s not that he didn’t do his job, and was lacking, it’s just that those recruits chose different schools for different reasons.
So he didn’t do a good job…. Recruits many times want to play for a specific qb
 

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Re SoBend being unsafe, about fifteen years ago there was a gang "war" during the summer that saw 100 gun shot deaths in a hundred days. Per capita that was the highest in the country. It is much better now
Re MFMF: the hiring decision did not evolve around a single point but what was perceived as the best option at the time
Re Deuce: can't blame a kid for trying to figure out what's best in a sport that is evolving daily. This is not 1990. Things they are a changing
 
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