Come on man, this constant negative shit is too much, this position group is literally the best ND has done at a position in decades and you still find a way to be negative about it. Sounds like Blair is a near lock and this will be the best DB class ND has ever seen. Please name one team in the country that has a better DB group then this in the 25 class.
I don't think Haynes would've signed with ND even if he committed. OU would've probably NIL'd us at the last hour like with Peyton Bowen.
His record says he doesn't need to swing for more HR's. He just needs to continue being Mike Mickens.
Not negative just factual and best in DECADES??? Well how many times have we needed to recruit 5-6 guys in the secondary in ONE class! Most schools at the top certainly don't, they usually land 2-3 recruits a year at the position and a 5 star. Simply said Haynes looks ELITE and we stuck with a player based on earlier evals. Blair is between two schools and has been basically the entire process. You asked for a team with a better DB group, well it will end up being OSU, they can still add another to a group of two 5* CBs, a 4* Safety and a 3* Safety and keep in mind they have 12 commits and we are about 88-90% full. I think we end up with the 2nd best haul which is great but with Haynes over Long we would've been #1 clear cut!
Didn't forget them, not impressed with Long but Thomas I like as long as he can keep adding muscle on his slight frame. He was a ball hawk last season but seemed to play slight of 170lb last year, seems to have put on about 8lbs since which is a good sign.
Gardner, Bryant and Morrison is a nice feather in the cap over 6 seasons. I think Hart could've been a 2nd Rd pick if not for the shoulder injuries. Cook was solid at Cincy and looks to be a solid Safety in Kansas City. Now let's expand on it...👌
I agree it's the best for ND since Weis landed two elite CBs and a very good 4* Safety recruit. I was referencing DB hauls PERIOD not just ND, but if your just referencing ND it would absolutely be if not just for sheer volume/numbers, when is the last time ND has a class of 5-6 DBs?
Exactly, that's what I was saying with Golden they identified him early and as an ATH! He's primarily a RB for his school, Haynes is a 2way STUD at both WR and CB and was evaluated much later and they seem to stick with their earlier evaluations 90% of the time. Same as with Long but he hasn't progressed much and many feel he has regressed but they still made the offer. I think Thomas will be fine once he gets to around 185ish, I saw he could be pushed around a bit in some films. I like this class alot but I LOVE it with another elite gamebreaker in Haynes. I'd say it's an A with Blair but could've been an A+ with Haynes over Long. Call me greedy
You seem pretty thorough and do your HS like I do, have you checked out all the recruits (including Blair) on film? If so, what do you think of each? Positive and negative (things to work on)
I haven't watched much of Blair besides his hudl film.
It’s hard to fathom that we wouldn’t recruit JOK these days.
Pretty much spot on, as he's compared to Hamilton due to his size but he's not quite as rangy an athlete. Blair can certainly improve in coverage but he is well above average as zone defender and I think by year 2 he will be a starter and has elite potential. I have him in the 120 range with Top 75 potential after his SR season.
Absolutely, I always tell people it's best to view classes in pairs and look at the depth built in each position, because that's ultimately what's win you championships. Now 3-4 every season would just be fool's gold these days but getting 4 guys with 3 STUDS and then following it up 2 4* type guys is perfectly fine.
I'm loving the less drama of MF's recruiting. I've been hurt way too many times before. He's getting the players he should. I think this year will be a 2nd round playoff exit. Then at least 1 title in 25 or 26. They have the talent, and the co-ordinators. Time to make it happen. I haven't been this excited for ND's future in a long time.
IDK about other boards but it’s always been that way here. Human nature- some people are optimists, some are pessimists. And this site has both
While you're out there, double check 247 and Rivals. Take a look at who currently sits at 22 commits and the first overall ranked football recruiting class in America on this Tuesday after Labor Day.
Well, I didn't have time to go onto 247 or Rivals. I did check out ND Nation though and this is NDN's thoughts.
