'24 MO WR Ryan Wingo (Texas Verbal)

[Dale]

He needs a lot of refinement? I'm not so certain about that. Of course he can polish up his game and learn the art of playing WR but he is so athletic. Go look at his sophomore highlights. His body twists and turns so naturally on poorly thrown balls, he makes difficult catches look effortless and he runs through contact well.

I think he's an early contributor, even if it's only on specific packages. Immediately challenges for KR/PR.

And he can also go deep because he's got the wheels

I don’t think we’re in much disagreement there just framed differently.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

If he does need refined, I have confidence in Stuckey coaching him up. Lenzy was ultimately failed by Del as far as I'm concerned. He's fast and that's about it.

 

[dublinirish]

 

[IrishLion]

CJ Carr will also be in attendance... time for him to turn into a closer on the recruiting trail lol

 

[Dale]

Five-star WR Ryan Wingo In-Depth on Notre Dame Visit

St. Louis (Mo. University five-star receiver Ryan Wingo, one of the top overall players in the class of 2024, was in South Bend for the Notre Dame game against Stanford. The 6-2, 200-pounder, who is ranked the No. 11 overall player in the country, enjoyed his time on the visit.

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[NDFAN2008]

He's a must get in this class

 

[rtrn2glory]

If we don't start showing that we're willing to utilize the young receiver talent on our roster, we have no chance of landing top level recruits at the position.

 

[PANDFAN]

will be at PSU this weekend

 

[ColinKSU]

He's a must get in this class

Yeah he’ll look good in a uniform and not doing anything.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The optimism here....

 

[NDFAN2008]

If we don't start showing that we're willing to utilize the young receiver talent on our roster, we have no chance of landing top level recruits at the position.

Couldn't agree more coaches need to stop using the excuses how not being ready and simply the offense and get the young guys on the field. Do they really think Jaden Greathouse is gonna be happy with not playing until week 6 and then getting only a few plays a game next year?

 

[ndcoltsfan2010]

We need to keep Tobias on the field. Give him more opportunities! But these incoming freshmen have a ton of talent! They aren't going to be happy not contributing and riding the bench. If these young guys are ready to contribute, then play them!

 

[jprue24]

We need to keep Tobias on the field. Give him more opportunities! But these incoming freshmen have a ton of talent! They aren't going to be happy not contributing and riding the bench. If these young guys are ready to contribute, then play them!

Like Morrison and Mickey? Like Junior?

 

[CanadalovesND]

We need to keep Tobias on the field. Give him more opportunities! But these incoming freshmen have a ton of talent! They aren't going to be happy not contributing and riding the bench. If these young guys are ready to contribute, then play them!

Most of them will be enrolling early. Tobias came in June, and he came from a “run and shoot” offense, which is much less technical than even your average Spread concept.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Here is how I look at this today, regardless of what we have seen to this point:

Greathouse, Flores, James and Williams have to see that they're going to have opportunities to get meaningful reps right out of the gate in 2023 and 2024 just based on the lack of WR numbers alone. ND isn't going to go fishing into the transfer portal like the football factories do. I honestly don't know if I would want a guy of the mentality that he's going to commit to ND only to bail later if they go 7-5 or even 5-7 for that matter. That's somebody who likely cuts and runs when shit really gets real, let alone before he even puts pen to paper, so he's saving everyone time in the end.

This line of thinking would also hold true of Lyons, Mosely, McClellan and Wingo. There is going to be a chance to get out there and catch meaningful passes right from the outset. You're going to be around a good group of guys and have a highly respected WR coach who played at a high level leading you. Just do the work and get your shit together because regardless it isn't going to be handed to you at ND no matter who is coach.

Then in two years, everyone will forget about you while we slobber over the next round of four stars who are coming in.

 

[arahop]

Here is how I look at this today, regardless of what we have seen to this point:

Greathouse, Flores, James and Williams have to see that they're going to have opportunities to get meaningful reps right out of the gate in 2023 and 2024 just based on the lack of WR numbers alone. ND isn't going to go fishing into the transfer portal like the football factories do. I honestly don't know if I would want a guy of the mentality that he's going to commit to ND only to bail later if they go 7-5 or even 5-7 for that matter. That's somebody who likely cuts and runs when shit really gets real, let alone before he even puts pen to paper, so he's saving everyone time in the end.

This line of thinking would also hold true of Lyons, Mosely, McClellan and Wingo. There is going to be a chance to get out there and catch meaningful passes right from the outset. You're going to be around a good group of guys and have a highly respected WR coach who played at a high level leading you. Just do the work and get your shit together because regardless it isn't going to be handed to you at ND no matter who is coach.

Then in two years, everyone will forget about you while we slobber over the next round of four stars who are coming in.

Notre Dame makes more money than any other Football Factory outside of Texas. We are a football factory that doesn't win big games and can't seriously contend for Championships and win games against Top 1-10 teams, because of a ridiculous stigma of of outstanding scholarship football players. Once again 98% of the ND Football players wouldn't get in without Football. Why not make the admissions easier. It won't move the needle on NDs Academic ranking of 20-25. Tired of the academic bullshit alumni and fans toss out there. Not trying to pick on you because 95%of the ND Nation accepts it without thinking it through

 

[Ray “The Mule” Finkle]

We need to keep Tobias on the field. Give him more opportunities! But these incoming freshmen have a ton of talent! They aren't going to be happy not contributing and riding the bench. If these young guys are ready to contribute, then play them!

Greathouse and Flores are very ahead of the curve. They should play in Dublin. Very likely with Buchner throwing to them.

 

[T-Boone]

Unless he is another Rees fail get Angeli in as much as possible. He can give hope in the passing game.

 

[irishandy]

I think Wingo saw last week how he could step in right away especially with the WR position being an unknown with injuries and the play on the field. A Merriweather TD was nice last week, but what other WR was going to produce on the field last week?

To me this is on Stucki, Del set us back a few years of how he recruited. This is in the hands of Stucki for him to get him. A little help from Carr to do some recruiting would be nice.

 

[stlnd01]

I think Wingo saw last week how he could step in right away especially with the WR position being an unknown with injuries and the play on the field. A Merriweather TD was nice last week, but what other WR was going to produce on the field last week?

To me this is on Stucki, Del set us back a few years of how he recruited. This is in the hands of Stucki for him to get him. A little help from Carr to do some recruiting would be nice.

Based on his recruiting results thus far I'm not sure there's anyone on the staff in who's hands I would rather this be in. Stuckey has been lights out on the trail.
I think the St. Louis connection and the fact that Wingo goes to SLU High (a very good Catholic school that sends kids to Notre Dame all the time) help us here too. And then, yeah, he can walk in and play which probably isn't happening at Ohio State.

 

[irishandy]

Based on his recruiting results thus far I'm not sure there's anyone on the staff in who's hands I would rather this be in. Stuckey has been lights out on the trail.
I think the St. Louis connection and the fact that Wingo goes to SLU High (a very good Catholic school that sends kids to Notre Dame all the time) help us here too. And then, yeah, he can walk in and play which probably isn't happening at Ohio State.

I agree Stuckey has done a great job playing catch up that Del screw up on. The STL connection has been working out good for ND lately.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Notre Dame makes more money than any other Football Factory outside of Texas. We are a football factory that doesn't win big games and can't seriously contend for Championships and win games against Top 1-10 teams, because of a ridiculous stigma of of outstanding scholarship football players. Once again 98% of the ND Football players wouldn't get in without Football. Why not make the admissions easier. It won't move the needle on NDs Academic ranking of 20-25. Tired of the academic bullshit alumni and fans toss out there. Not trying to pick on you because 95%of the ND Nation accepts it without thinking it through

I don't disagree. Not saying you let the floodgates open entirely, but drop the elitist nonsense and be a little bit more in terms of what higher education should be about.

Notre Dame has been a place that turns boys into men. They have an outstanding head coach now in that regard. I still believe there are Chris Zorich and Robert Hughes kind of guys who would make the most of the opportunity.

 

[rtrn2glory]

strange that big time WR's want to play in a system where they get the ball thrown a lot to them? Not really strange at all to me honestly.

 

[Dale]

He also has a connection on staff to Tennessee.

Been there a few times already, does sound like it’s one of those Fong “ I just know this team leads type CBs” not that a decision or anything is imminent.

 

[Luckylucci]

Wiltfong uses his CB as an indicator of the current leader. It doesn't necessarily have to do with the prospect being ready to decide or timing of a decision. Not surprising at all that Tenn has momentum right now. They're kicking ass on the field.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Wiltfong uses his CB as an indicator of the current leader. It doesn't necessarily have to do with the prospect being ready to decide or timing of a decision. Not surprising at all that Tenn has momentum right now. They're kicking ass on the field.

Tennessee is Auburn's bar right now. "Let's make a lot of really dumb expensive decisions that wind up being mistakes until we figure it out."

How much sustained success Tennessee has from this point forward should be interesting.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I wish more 247 recruiting analysts would do this actually. Most are just concerned with keeping their silly percentages high and wait until there is a silent commitment with a decision date set.

It's probably a lot easier for somebody who doesn't have to build relationships with the recruits.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Tennessee is Auburn's bar right now. "Let's make a lot of really dumb expensive decisions that wind up being mistakes until we figure it out."

How much sustained success Tennessee has from this point forward should be interesting.

Yeah, building a team out of transfers is a roll of the dice. Michigan State's renaissance was pretty short lived. I do think Tennessee is in a better place to capitalize on their position, though.

 

[Free Manera]

Yeah, building a team out of transfers is a roll of the dice. Michigan State's renaissance was pretty short lived. I do think Tennessee is in a better place to capitalize on their position, though.

Based on what I've read about Heupel's offensive system (which is more or less Briles's "veer and shoot"), it's kind of tailor-made for plug and play transfers. They don't care what the defense looks like pre-snap. The only read is usually to count the number of box defenders. The receivers are generally running simple option routes based on where the "green grass" is. The QB is usually peeking at the deep route looking for a 1v1, then if it's not there making a veer read to either hand it off, keep it, or throw the quick route.

The players don't need to process too much in game prep or even on the field. They run the same plays all the time. They just go as fast as they can and depend on the quarterback to make the right reads.

 

[luckofirish8]

Based on what I've read about Heupel's offensive system (which is more or less Briles's "veer and shoot"), it's kind of tailor-made for plug and play transfers. They don't care what the defense looks like pre-snap. The only read is usually to count the number of box defenders. The receivers are generally running simple option routes based on where the "green grass" is. The QB is usually peeking at the deep route looking for a 1v1, then if it's not there making a veer read to either hand it off, keep it, or throw the quick route.

The players don't need to process too much in game prep or even on the field. They run the same plays all the time. They just go as fast as they can and depend on the quarterback to make the right reads.

While I think this is generally a good overall assessment, Tennessee may not care exactly how the defense lines up but they certain do care who lines up where. They have set matchups that they are looking for and have on a number of plays this season flip-flop WR on the same side of the field to take advantage. Usually with great success. The route concepts may be simple, but every WR on the team knows each route for X, Y, and Z, because they know at a moments notice they could flip. This is part of the reason I think you are correct in the tailor-made for plug and play transfers...experience certainly helps there.