'23 WY S Luke Talich (Notre Dame Signee)

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It's early and I've only had one cup of coffee but so confused at this thread. Is what Mac wrote here a (perhaps sarcastic) prediction or a statement of fact?

As a walk-on this guy sounds great. As a scholarship freshman I'd agree it's fairly weak. Even if we are desperate. Go find a transfer with a couple seasons left on the clock and if this kid earns a scholarship in practice give him one next year.

It was a prediction of him being awarded a scholarship sometime before his soph year.

No inside info on what ND is currently thinking or if they have a plan like they did with JD Bertrand
 

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6’3 and 10.72 100’s are normally things that get people excited, we’ll see. I will say that Carter and Talich’s commitments likely change the math at S to some degree.
 

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6’3 and 10.72 100’s are normally things that get people excited, we’ll see. I will say that Carter and Talich’s commitments likely change the math at S to some degree.
I want to hear reports coming out in fall camp about how that track speed was legit and he'll be hard to keep off the run teams. Athletes with that size and speed are how elite special teams are comprised.
 

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Personally, if he’s really 6’3”, I think that cuts against my optimism with him. 6’3” safeties are rare for a reason.
 

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Personally, if he’s really 6’3”, I think that cuts against my optimism with him. 6’3” safeties are rare for a reason.
Typically because they are wrs or yes become lbs. he’s very thin but isn’t afraid of contact. That is a bit more rare for tall fast and thin(to like contact)
 

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I came across this awhile back. This is a Notre Dame grey shirt. Brilliant if you ask me. Get him on campus and competing for 1 year and see how he stacks up against 2024 S’s for a scholarship.


“Notre Dame said they have five guys leaving between the safety and linebacker room. So they have five scholarships opening up. And so they think that I’ll be better than any 2024 safety that they want,” Talich said. “So that’s the kind of their plan for me right now. Obviously, I’d have to prove that to them.
 

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I came across this awhile back. This is a Notre Dame grey shirt. Brilliant if you ask me. Get him on campus and competing for 1 year and see how he stacks up against 2024 S’s for a scholarship.


“Notre Dame said they have five guys leaving between the safety and linebacker room. So they have five scholarships opening up. And so they think that I’ll be better than any 2024 safety that they want,” Talich said. “So that’s the kind of their plan for me right now. Obviously, I’d have to prove that to them.
Great read! I haven't really been following this story, but I am definitely rooting for this kid. Really easy to root for.
 

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I see this as all upside and no downside. The kid has even said publicly that if it doesn’t workout that at least he tried. He’s very well aware he’s up against the odds here but willing to give it a go. He’s also a legit 6’2-6’3 running sub 11’s for the last 3 years. Perfect flier to take
Rudy, Rudy, Rudy ...

I hope that Luke turns out to be one helluva player for the Irish!
 

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I assume you are agreeing with me. It’s part of why he’s so good and Hamilton is rare. Probably why he got injured a bit more than you’d like too.

Right. It’s not like there is a lack of 6’4” football players. There are a lack of 6’4” safeties.

It’s a huge part of the reason KH is a unicorn. That kind of height works against almost everyone else because it changes the way you stride, how quick you can change directions, how much explosive power you generate at the same weight, ability to bend and get low…. KH can somehow do those thing with the extra height.

Like Husain Bolt is a unicorn with the build as a 100m runner. I’d rather have Bolt, obviously, but if I’m betting on the next 5 NCAA 100m dash winners, I’m not picking the 6’5” guys.

It’s why every year a ton of guys who are a little undersized get on the field. Smaller guys tend to be quicker and more athletic. The taller guys are either super-highly-rated or projects. You want the taller guys to work, but you recruit the smaller guys for a reason.
 
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Yes. Let’s compare a walk on to a unicorn 5 star Safety
You could also frame it as someone who was good enough to attract enough attention to Wyoming to become a 3 star and receive an offer from the Pac-12 champion versus some guy who was only a 3 star going into his senior year despite living in the recruiting industry hotbed of Georgia.

Do I think Talich is the next Kyle Hamilton? No. Odds say very, very few people could be the next Kyle Hamilton. But there are also very obvious reasons why Talich could be a recruiting industry diamond in the rough. So I don't think its fair to try to compare him to others.
 

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Right. It’s not like there is a lack of 6’4” football players. There are a lack of 6’4” safeties.

It’s a huge part of the reason KH is a unicorn. That kind of height works against almost everyone else because it changes the way you stride, how quick you can change directions, how much explosive power you generate at the same weight, ability to bend and get low…. KH can somehow do those thing with the extra height.

Like Husain Bolt is a unicorn with the build as a 100m runner. I’d rather have Bolt, obviously, but if I’m betting on the next 5 NCAA 100m dash winners, I’m not picking the 6’5” guys.

It’s why every year a ton of guys who are a little undersized get on the field. Smaller guys tend to be quicker and more athletic. The taller guys are either super-highly-rated or projects. You want the taller guys to work, but you recruit the smaller guys for a reason.
Yep, and henderson is an example of a long lanky player with a large stride that has absolutely terrible change of direction, and that kills him playing DB or Safety.
 
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