‘23 VA ATH Brandyn Hillman (Michigan Verbal)

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Didn't it kind of happen with Tee Shepard too?
I guess Tee enrolled, but he was an EE who should've still been in high school and IIRC didn't even make it to midterms. I feel like the word was he was given some sort of conditional admission and it was pretty clear from the start he wasn't going to meet the conditions. So it's effectively the same thing.
 

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Its a trainwreck because Michigan is not an SEC team. This will be used against ND recruiting on the trail.
Yep. It's the Michigan part of this that burns me, TBH.
It sucks he's not coming to ND but if the admissions hadn't worked out and he landed at some directional school or a low-standards SEC program, well, that happens sometimes. But Michigan, loudly and proudly, Does Things The Right Way, just like we do (I know, I know). And if we send him packing but he immediately signs an LOI with them, it makes Notre Dame look like the problem here. And yeah, then with our luck he'll be a three-year starter there.
 

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If I were the coaches I'd move Jaiden Ausberry to Safety he is the right size and we have plenty of depth at LB. He can always move to LB when he gets bigger
 

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I guess Tee enrolled, but he was an EE who should've still been in high school and IIRC didn't even make it to midterms. I feel like the word was he was given some sort of conditional admission and it was pretty clear from the start he wasn't going to meet the conditions. So it's effectively the same thing.
Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC Tee showed up and was sent home immediately. He was never officially admitted. Seems there might have been some thought that if he showed up they would go ahead and admit him?
 

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Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC Tee showed up and was sent home immediately. He was never officially admitted. Seems there might have been some thought that if he showed up they would go ahead and admit him?

This feels so long ago and the details are fuzzy, but I thought it had something to do with ND not accommodating him and his hearing impediment
 

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Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC Tee showed up and was sent home immediately. He was never officially admitted. Seems there might have been some thought that if he showed up they would go ahead and admit him?
I don't know if he was officially admitted or conditionally admitted or taking classes at Holy Cross maybe even but I remember he stuck around long enough to film himself doing some sort of cone drill in the locker room and everyone was very excited about his agility. And he probably made it to Signing Day b/c we were all taken by surprise when his "package deal" buddy Deontay Greenberry flipped to Houston.
But pretty sure he was gone by spring practice.
What a time to be alive, that was.
 

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Makes sense but this is the very reason why Holtz won less games after his Natty. The admin had tighter admissions standards. Everything has consequences and academic admissions is just another hard filter against securing every possible blue chip recruit.

Its a trainwreck because Michigan is not an SEC team. This will be used against ND recruiting on the trail.
This is exactly the issue. It’s one thing for someone not to get into school, it’s another for them to seamlessly get into another regional university with similar rankings. Not really any different than him ending up at UVA, etc. after not getting in to ND… it implies that ND is the one acting a fool.

To the Tee Shep thing others are talking about - the issue was that ND was provided falsified transcripts. Someone (Lane Kiffin?) snitched on him and that was that. With correct transcripts he wasn’t qualified for ND. Just say no to Fresno.
 

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This is exactly the issue. It’s one thing for someone not to get into school, it’s another for them to seamlessly get into another regional university with similar rankings. Not really any different than him ending up at UVA, etc. after not getting in to ND… it implies that ND is the one acting a fool.

To the Tee Shep thing others are talking about - the issue was that ND was provided falsified transcripts. Someone (Lane Kiffin?) snitched on him and that was that. With correct transcripts he wasn’t qualified for ND. Just say no to Fresno.
Tee “George O’Leary” Shephard
 

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This is exactly the issue. It’s one thing for someone not to get into school, it’s another for them to seamlessly get into another regional university with similar rankings. Not really any different than him ending up at UVA, etc. after not getting in to ND… it implies that ND is the one acting a fool.

To the Tee Shep thing others are talking about - the issue was that ND was provided falsified transcripts. Someone (Lane Kiffin?) snitched on him and that was that. With correct transcripts he wasn’t qualified for ND. Just say no to Fresno.
Does Michigan apply admissions standards to athletes? Duke is "ranked" higher than ND. There are no admissions standards for Duke BB players, as far as I know. It has nothing to do with rankings.

That said, ND admissions can come across as arrogant and delusional. I just don't know the circumstances of this specific case.
 

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Does Michigan apply admissions standards to athletes? Duke is "ranked" higher than ND. There are no admissions standards for Duke BB players, as far as I know. It has nothing to do with rankings.

That said, ND admissions can come across as arrogant and delusional. I just don't know the circumstances of this specific case.
I think that’s a big part of the issue. Duke can run the kind of basketball program it does without impacting their academic standing… why is ND not taking a “borderline” kid they sent an offer to? Why are other major programs willing to take him? But we don’t have all the details.
 

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TBH, I'm sure it's more on the kid than ND. Especially when he knows there's a much easier option on the table. Kid made a snap decision and I honestly can't say I wouldn't do the same thing if I was an 18 year old stud athlete
 

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TBH, I'm sure it's more on the kid than ND. Especially when he knows there's a much easier option on the table. Kid made a snap decision and I honestly can't say I wouldn't do the same thing if I was an 18 year old stud athlete
Are you saying he asked to get out of his NLI so he could go to an easier school? Or that he didn’t complete certain requirements to get in?
 

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Why would ND let a kid out of NLI so easily. Methinks it's a bit of both. Probably told him certain credits didn't cover and he needed to do some extra work over the summer. Probably made him feel as though ND was going to be a pain because of that and probably knew other programs might have interest. Then he bitched and they let him out. Wonder if they knew Michigan was going to be where he was going to land within 72 hours. Just another ND shitshow. Not as bad as the Andy Luck issue but still stupid as fuck. The kid should be on this team.

I hope Freeman is pushing hard against this administration behind the seasons. I think he might need to become a big prick once in a while.
 

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Why would ND let a kid out of NLI so easily. Methinks it's a bit of both. Probably told him certain credits didn't cover and he needed to do some extra work over the summer. Probably made him feel as though ND was going to be a pain because of that and probably knew other programs might have interest. Then he bitched and they let him out. Wonder if they knew Michigan was going to be where he was going to land within 72 hours. Just another ND shitshow. Not as bad as the Andy Luck issue but still stupid as fuck. The kid should be on this team.

I hope Freeman is pushing hard against this administration behind the seasons. I think he might need to become a big prick once in a while.

Who looks like moron now?
 

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Respect to Hillman for stating that publicly. Most star athletes would never.
I will genuinely be hoping for his success up there at scUM. I hope they go 0-12, but that he shows out.

Salute, kid. Best of luck.
 

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Who looks like THE moron now?
FIFY

The staff for not getting the kid in and losing him to Michigan within 48 hours. Uh duh. Kudos for the kid being straight but why have the kid at spring ball or sign an NLI when he wasn't ready. So bad of a situation that Michigan picks him up within the week? Still looks bad. Kids a decent kid obviously for being straight.
 

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The staff for not getting the kid in and losing him to Michigan within 48 hours. Uh duh. Kudos for the kid being straight but why have the kid at spring ball or sign an NLI when he wasn't ready. So bad of a situation that Michigan picks him up within the week? Still looks bad. Kids a decent kid obviously for being straight.
Do you understand how NLI's work and how and why a kid would be let out of one?

He signed his national letter of intent because both he and ND thought he would come to ND. It was almost like he intended to come to ND. Unless a kid is an EE and has already graduated, they are all simply letters of intention because the kids haven't actually graduated from high school, have incomplete transcripts, and can't enroll in college. By and large, it works this way for the rest of the student body. If you are accepted into the school in December, then proceed to get 7 F's your second semester of your senior year, it may not work out at ND.

If a kid isn't even going to be accepted into the school, why wouldn't ND and MF let him out of his letter of intent? His intentions would never result in reality. You think it looks bad for ND now? Wait until ND makes a kid honor an NLI that can't even be accepted into the school- that will play out real well in the media and recruiting circles. And in this day and age of transfer rules, why on earth would ND not let him out as well?

You have this weird disdain for ND that seeps into every thread. Here, you're now further mad at ND for letting a non-non-qualifier out of his NLI. It never ends. Your anti-ND disposition knows no ends. Please explain to us the benefits of not letting Hillman out of his NLI and how that is rooted in any sense of reality or logic. If you can't do that, simply post less and read more.

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It's almost hilarious in a sense that Meatchicken standards are low enough that they can get ND's "scraps" (NOT demeaning his athletic ability) from meeting academic standards! F*cking amazing! Oh well! What a life we live in nowadays!?! Muck Fichigan forever!!!!!!
 
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