‘23 TX QB Austin Novosad (Oregon Signee)

[Irish Heaven72]

(1) The same reason the are blue chip athletes at 17: supremely confident and love competition (often to a fault)
(2) The sales pitch that "why take a chance - we have the track record on producing pros" is very persuasive (best coaches, practicing against the best competition, having complimentary pieces that can maximize your skillset, etc....)
(3) Prestige is very attractive
(4) Winning is very attractive
(5) TAMU pays

I'm can't stand (an understatement) Alabama, Georgia, OSU and Clemson but I'm going to really start rooting against the huge NIL teams - to recruits - like TAMU, Texas, Tennessee, Miami and a few others. Not saying that Bama, OSU and Georgia aren't using the NIL money as a tool, they're just telling recruits that the huge money will be there once they prove themselves on the field, using players like CJ Stroud and Bryce Young as example - both of whom (supposedly) NIL deals worth 7 figures. The HUGE money to recruits is - if I'm correct - what Saban blew up about earlier

 

[INLaw]

I'm can't stand (an understatement) Alabama, Georgia, OSU and Clemson but I'm going to really start rooting against the huge NIL teams - to recruits - like TAMU, Texas, Tennessee, Miami and a few others. Not saying that Bama, OSU and Georgia aren't using the NIL money as a tool, they're just telling recruits that the huge money will be there once they prove themselves on the field, using players like CJ Stroud and Bryce Young as example - both of whom (supposedly) NIL deals worth 7 figures. The HUGE money to recruits is - if I'm correct - what Saban blew up about earlier

3rd 🥉 post and dropping truth bombs

 

[Irish Heaven72]

3rd 🥉 post and dropping truth bombs

Actually, I've been reading this board for a while now and I'm coming over from the ND Rivals site - under a different name - which has turned into a cesspool. There are a lot of good posters over here with open minds.

 

[condoms SUCk]

Actually, I've been reading this board for a while now and I'm coming over from the ND Rivals site - under a different name - which has turned into a cesspool. There are a lot of good posters over here with open minds.

Oh sweet summer child

 

[phillyirish]

I'm can't stand (an understatement) Alabama, Georgia, OSU and Clemson but I'm going to really start rooting against the huge NIL teams - to recruits - like TAMU, Texas, Tennessee, Miami and a few others. Not saying that Bama, OSU and Georgia aren't using the NIL money as a tool, they're just telling recruits that the huge money will be there once they prove themselves on the field, using players like CJ Stroud and Bryce Young as example - both of whom (supposedly) NIL deals worth 7 figures. The HUGE money to recruits is - if I'm correct - what Saban blew up about earlier

Nah. Disagree, especially the last part. The reason Saban is so vocal against NIL is that he can’t stand that everyone can now do legally what his program has been doing for years. His boy Mark Emmett can no longer have two mindsets when it comes to recruiting violations: schools that are punished and schools that are in the SEC.

 

[dublinirish]

Nah. Disagree, especially the last part. The reason Saban is so vocal against NIL is that he can’t stand that everyone can now do legally what his program has been doing for years. His boy Mark Emmett can no longer have two mindsets when it comes to recruiting violations: schools that are punished and schools that are in the SEC.

i think its more that Saban was frustrated that the Alabama boosters weren't dominating the NIL space and were getting outworked by other schools. I don't think Saban is anti NIL at all. You have to remember Saban despite his success is not universally popular with Alabama boosters and has some enemies there.

 

[Irishdrunk]

(1) The same reason they are blue chip athletes at 17: they are supremely confident and love competition (often to a fault)
(2) The sales pitch that "why take a chance - we have the track record on producing pros" is very persuasive (best coaches, practicing against the best competition, having complimentary pieces that can maximize your skillset, etc....)
(3) Prestige is very attractive
(4) Winning is very attractive
(5) TAMU pays

Everyone pays other than ND and that will continue to be a problem at the play maker positions. We should be lucky to even have Carr.

 

[Dale]

Everyone pays other than ND

Yes the last beacon of hope in CFB.

Everyone believes everyone pays except the school they root for.

 

[KizerWilhelm]

Per Wikipedia:

• Number of billionaires in Texas: 58
• Number of billionaires in Alabama: 0
• Number of millionaire households in Texas: 650,216
• Number of millionaire household in Alabama: 94,259

Number of Texas A&M alumni who are CEO of Fortune 500 companies: 4 (tied for the most)
Number of Alabama alumni who are CEO of Fortune 500 companies: 0 https://www.usnews.com/education/be...e-500-ceos-attended-college?utm_source=usn_tw

Alabama can compete for pay-for-play when it's NIL paying players what they're actually worth for their name and likeness, and it could compete for pay-for-play when it was local car dealers giving away a $50,000 Mercedes. The reason Saban hates what A&M is doing is they simply cannot compete when it escalates to billionaires throwing away millions at players, just because. Alabama doesn't have that kind of alumni base.

 

[IrishLax]

Per Wikipedia:

• Number of billionaires in Texas: 58
• Number of billionaires in Alabama: 0
• Number of millionaire households in Texas: 650,216
• Number of millionaire household in Alabama: 94,259

Number of Texas A&M alumni who are CEO of Fortune 500 companies: 4 (tied for the most)
Number of Alabama alumni who are CEO of Fortune 500 companies: 0 https://www.usnews.com/education/be...e-500-ceos-attended-college?utm_source=usn_tw

Alabama can compete for pay-for-play when it's NIL paying players what they're actually worth for their name and likeness, and it could compete for pay-for-play when it was local car dealers giving away a $50,000 Mercedes. The reason Saban hates what A&M is doing is they simply cannot compete when it escalates to billionaires throwing away millions at players, just because. Alabama doesn't have that kind of alumni base.

Nailed it. The past system *only* benefited cheaters (and specifically, those who were willing to cheat the hardest after USC imploded due to sanctions)... now at least everyone can offer something whether it's showing what players are currently making on campus or offering the (potentially illicit) upfront sports marketing contracts with collectives. Is what it is, but over time its likely to lead to more parity and interesting football.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Per Wikipedia:

• Number of billionaires in Texas: 58
• Number of billionaires in Alabama: 0
• Number of millionaire households in Texas: 650,216
• Number of millionaire household in Alabama: 94,259

Number of Texas A&M alumni who are CEO of Fortune 500 companies: 4 (tied for the most)
Number of Alabama alumni who are CEO of Fortune 500 companies: 0 https://www.usnews.com/education/be...e-500-ceos-attended-college?utm_source=usn_tw

Alabama can compete for pay-for-play when it's NIL paying players what they're actually worth for their name and likeness, and it could compete for pay-for-play when it was local car dealers giving away a $50,000 Mercedes. The reason Saban hates what A&M is doing is they simply cannot compete when it escalates to billionaires throwing away millions at players, just because. Alabama doesn't have that kind of alumni base.

Nobody will be willing/able to compete with the two flagship Texas schools in a pay for play system. They are in the sweet spot of football crazy, wealthy, regional popularity, and having massive numbers of alums.

 

[stlnd01]

I dunno. I still think what the truly elite programs (currently Bama, Georgia, Ohio State) offer - the chance to play for titles, benefit from the best coaching/competition and develop into an NFL draft pick - will appeal to a lot of the best recruits who view things on a slightly longer horizon (Notre Dame has a similar pitch just more emphasis on the education piece). They'll still get those players, maybe with a little NIL money mixed in but that won't be the whole pitch.

To me the biggest losers in NIL World are the second-tier wannabes trying to keep up with Bama/Georgia (the Auburns and Ole Misses of the sport). They - not Bama/Georgia - have long really been the biggest cheaters. And now they'll get outspent by programs like A&M and Miami and Tennessee that can buy kids above board.

 

[du Lac]

I did some digging on John Garcia Jr. it appears he works for SI. So, it could be that he’s going off of the SI ranking for Elite 11. In that case it would be

1. Dante
2. Malachi
3. Arnold
4. JJ Kohl
5. Novosad

So it could be Malachi, Kohl, or Arnold. Not sure I’d get hyped about a 6’7 4 star QB.

 

[NorthDakota]

I dunno. I still think what the truly elite programs (currently Bama, Georgia, Ohio State) offer - the chance to play for titles, benefit from the best coaching/competition and develop into an NFL draft pick - will appeal to a lot of the best recruits who view things on a slightly longer horizon (Notre Dame has a similar pitch just more emphasis on the education piece). They'll still get those players, maybe with a little NIL money mixed in but that won't be the whole pitch.

To me the biggest losers in NIL World are the second-tier wannabes trying to keep up with Bama/Georgia (the Auburns and Ole Misses of the sport). They - not Bama/Georgia - have long really been the biggest cheaters. And now they'll get outspent by programs like A&M and Miami and Tennessee that can buy kids above board.

Yeah Alabama has surely cheated (like everyone) at one point or another but NIL has a limited benefit for them.

NIL benefits schools with small penis syndrome. Blue bloods have big dicks. All things the same, kids wanna play at a big time program. NIL is an equalizer.

 

[Dale]

What will be possibly even more equalizing is how sustainable is millions from boosters into a recruiting class. Are some schools thinking it’ll be an annual flow? I’ve seen some A&M fans complain the pool has dried up since funds are being put to their new facilities upgrades. A&M last year, Louisville/Miami/Oregon this year, who’s next year? Miami again? We’ll have to see.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

 

[stlnd01]

What will be possibly even more equalizing is how sustainable is millions from boosters into a recruiting class. Are some schools thinking it’ll be an annual flow? I’ve seen some A&M fans complain the pool has dried up since funds are being put to their new facilities upgrades. A&M last year, Louisville/Miami/Oregon this year, who’s next year? Miami again? We’ll have to see.

Right. That's a big question. And if you're a program with aspirations, how do you balance the money boosters put into a recruiting class vs. money boosters spend for other things you need - coaches, facilities, NIL money to ensure your current actual best players don't transfer? Yes these guys are loaded but there are limits. It'll balance out.
I suspect the recruiting class of '23 has it the best any 17-year-olds will ever have it on this stuff.

 

[du Lac]

Got to get him to visit. I heard he felt like Ohio State was too far from home. Not sure how he’d get any closer in SB.

 

[stlnd01]

Got to get him to visit. I heard he felt like Ohio State was too far from home. Not sure how he’d get any closer in SB.

He's from Texas, Ohio State is "too far," and both his parents went to A&M? Unless Jimbo doesn't want him I'm not sure why we're even having this conversation. Offer Minchey you dopes.

 

[du Lac]

He's from Texas, Ohio State is "too far," and both his parents went to A&M? Unless Jimbo doesn't want him I'm not sure why we're even having this conversation. Offer Minchey you dopes.

100% agree. Minchey should’ve been offered at the same time.

 

[GATTACA!]

Feels weird being in a top four for a kid that’s already committed lol.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

He's from Texas, Ohio State is "too far," and both his parents went to A&M? Unless Jimbo doesn't want him I'm not sure why we're even having this conversation. Offer Minchey you dopes.

Agreed. My guess is he’s leaving ND in the mix to sex up his hat ceremony.

 

[NDohio]

Feels weird being in a top four for a kid that’s already committed lol.

Imagine how Baylor fans feel!

 

[irishff1014]

Right. That's a big question. And if you're a program with aspirations, how do you balance the money boosters put into a recruiting class vs. money boosters spend for other things you need - coaches, facilities, NIL money to ensure your current actual best players don't transfer? Yes these guys are loaded but there are limits. It'll balance out.
I suspect the recruiting class of '23 has it the best any 17-year-olds will ever have it on this stuff.

You brought up a fantastic point. Look at how much donors give to the programs to see new facilities, playing surfaces, remodels that the schools need help with. Now that money is going to players so the facilities will now not be as good. This now effects all the players and. It just the paid ones.

 

[irishff1014]

Per Wikipedia:

• Number of billionaires in Texas: 58
• Number of billionaires in Alabama: 0
• Number of millionaire households in Texas: 650,216
• Number of millionaire household in Alabama: 94,259

Number of Texas A&M alumni who are CEO of Fortune 500 companies: 4 (tied for the most)
Number of Alabama alumni who are CEO of Fortune 500 companies: 0 https://www.usnews.com/education/be...e-500-ceos-attended-college?utm_source=usn_tw

Alabama can compete for pay-for-play when it's NIL paying players what they're actually worth for their name and likeness, and it could compete for pay-for-play when it was local car dealers giving away a $50,000 Mercedes. The reason Saban hates what A&M is doing is they simply cannot compete when it escalates to billionaires throwing away millions at players, just because. Alabama doesn't have that kind of alumni base.

Just look at all the double digit million dollar high school stadiums.

 

[Luckylucci]

He's from Texas, Ohio State is "too far," and both his parents went to A&M? Unless Jimbo doesn't want him I'm not sure why we're even having this conversation. Offer Minchey you dopes.

Agreed. Even if we thought there was a chance.

Maybe as equally bizarre as getting into Ty Simpson's recruitment just a few weeks before he was about to decide and then waiting to offer other QB's until his "surprising" decision to go to Bama came out.

 

[Dale]

I have no idea, if they have interest in Minchey (hopefully) or anyone else but this is one I will agree with part of what Driskell implied in his post that it wouldn’t be surprising if conversations are being had that aren’t made public until they get more advanced. Novosad’s recruitment was already open. Minchey’s is not. He (or any solidly committed QB) may not be so keen to start doing interviews and tweet about ND.

We’re recruiting commits at this point, there are strings that come with that.

 

[GATTACA!]

Remember when Dante was a silent. Boy those were the days.

 

[INLaw]

I member 🍇

 

[Irishcop]

I member 🍇

Great episode!