'23 MO CB Christian Gray (Notre Dame Signee)

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He said he was in the booth today and told him good game through the headset.
 

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How many yards did they have in the first half? 80? Like come on dude just own your take was bad
 

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@PutuporShutup, everyday girlfriend.

Do you still think Gray was benched and MF subsequently lied in his press conference about it?
One million percent. Yesterday proves it.

I never said freeman lied, and I don’t think he did. Freeman said gray was a little banged up and they needed to get him right. Everyone is banged up that plays as much as he does. He absolutely could have played the last 2 games but wasn’t needed. He did need to get right, but get mentally right was the biggest issue.

It’s obvious what ash began doing much more of after the first series for Pitt to protect the field a bit. Gray got smoked first series and Pitt should have had a td. Luckily their wr dropped it. It’ll be interesting to see if ash does more of that or saves it vs teams with more than one good wr.
 

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Wait wait wait one good receiver? Weren't you the one saying this group was just as good if not better than USC. Like buddy you can't have it both ways. You can't dog this kid constantly have some ridiculous conspiracy theories on how he was benched for not playing hard enough and not eat crow for it. Like I get pff isn't the end all be all but he was 7th highest rated defender. You're an idiot
 

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Can't underestimate getting a key part of the secondary 3 weeks off going into the stretch run of the season. Outstanding play today
I coach at a Catholic high school that is a college sports feeder. Our basketball team two years ago finished #1 in the country, for my team we had 9 seniors sign this week. A lot of our recruiting is done at offseason showcases. A top piece of advice that we give them is "do not play if you are less than 100%" at a showcase for your club team or prospect day because coaches are going to evaluate what they see without context.

Gray battling through injuries to give his all for the team in key games and having randos on the internet act like he is trash underscored this for me. A selfish player would have shut it down for the year with his shoulder injury. He has like 3 separate injuries that all impact his ability to play corner. He's an extremely good college football player and has a realistic shot to make a roster in the NFL if healthy. The only thing fans should be saying is "thank you."
 

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Wait wait wait one good receiver? Weren't you the one saying this group was just as good if not better than USC. Like buddy you can't have it both ways. You can't dog this kid constantly have some ridiculous conspiracy theories on how he was benched for not playing hard enough and not eat crow for it. Like I get pff isn't the end all be all but he was 7th highest rated defender. You're an idiot
Same energy as the guy saying Malachi Fields "sucks" right before he went out there and Mossed a top 25 defense.
 

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Same energy as the guy saying Malachi Fields "sucks" right before he went out there and Mossed a top 25 defense.
Exactly and you would expect a guy who played CB in the big ten to understand this stuff about playing hurt how it limits you but you know you have a true freshman behind you and you give the team the best chance to win to gut it out.
 

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Putup with his former big ten cb knowledge obviously had this pegged.
Yup, I called it exactly. Wasn’t hard to see what was going on. A corner that loses confidence with how much he was playing needed a major refresh.

How ash protected him a good bit was really smart as well.
 

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Only a legit crazy person can say Pitt has two WRs like Lemon and Lane and they are gonna test Gray like USC did. Go to the game. And then come out and say I nailed it.
 

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One million percent. Yesterday proves it.

I never said freeman lied, and I don’t think he did. Freeman said gray was a little banged up and they needed to get him right. Everyone is banged up that plays as much as he does. He absolutely could have played the last 2 games but wasn’t needed. He did need to get right, but get mentally right was the biggest issue.

It’s obvious what ash began doing much more of after the first series for Pitt to protect the field a bit. Gray got smoked first series and Pitt should have had a td. Luckily their wr dropped it. It’ll be interesting to see if ash does more of that or saves it vs teams with more than one good wr.
Appreciate you not letting this sit. I'll be more clear and simple for you.

You're trying to slither out of shitting on the character of an ND player by changing your reasoning, which is pathetic. Getting beat is losing a rep, not a sign of effort. Getting help is a sign of play, not effort.

I'm not sure how you approach dishonesty, but if you say someone is sitting because they were hurt and it caused them to play worse, when they are really sitting because of a lack of effort.... that's lying. So, yeah... you are saying MF was lying about this situation. He didn't say, we have to get him "right", he said he's hurt and his technique was suffering because of injury, not get him "right". That is a skill issue, not a will issue.

How about you try being accountable for some of the nonsense that comes out of your brain?
 

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Putup with his former big ten cb knowledge obviously had this pegged.
Yup, I called it exactly. Wasn’t hard to see what was going on. A corner that loses confidence with how much he was playing needed a major refresh.

How ash protected him a good bit was really smart as well.
 

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Bailey - Gray was benched because he isn't trying hard enough

Motte - Gray was benched because injury hurt his confidence.
 

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I’m thinking that some big ten team was really glad when a certain CB graduated.
 

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Only a legit crazy person can say Pitt has two WRs like Lemon and Lane and they are gonna test Gray like USC did. Go to the game. And then come out and say I nailed it.
I said their line may not be quite good enough to hold up. Nailed it

I never compared them to lemon, only lane.
 

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I said their line may not be quite good enough to hold up. Nailed it

I never compared them to lemon, only lane.

“They're going to attack us offensively just like USC did, they have the playmakers outside and a good QB to do that.”

“IMO they have 2 WRs better than Lane but not as good as Lemon.”

“I expect they try to exploit gray in the mid game on a lot of slants and crossers where it's more difficult to have safety help when in man.”

“Teams with multiple good WRs and an oline good enough to give their qb some time to make field throws can attack nd. Pitts oline may be good enough to do that and I think they have enough WRs and speed where nd will have gray and maybe Zackery in situations they can get exploited”

None of these things were accurate.
 

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You're an idiot. To say it's a mental health issue with not a single bit of evidence is so fucked up. You honestly are just a moron who we all know didn't play cb at a big ten school it's embarrassing
Say you’re jealous without actually saying it.

Grow up man. Move on. I wasn’t anything special. Don’t need to be that jealous
 

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Hand up - my take that him and Zackery were pretty much a wash was pretty insane in retrospect
 

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Bailey - Gray was benched because he isn't trying hard enough

Motte - Gray was benched because injury hurt his confidence.
Who are Bailey and Motte? I have never heard of either of these people.
 

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I coach at a Catholic high school that is a college sports feeder. Our basketball team two years ago finished #1 in the country, for my team we had 9 seniors sign this week. A lot of our recruiting is done at offseason showcases. A top piece of advice that we give them is "do not play if you are less than 100%" at a showcase for your club team or prospect day because coaches are going to evaluate what they see without context.

Gray battling through injuries to give his all for the team in key games and having randos on the internet act like he is trash underscored this for me. A selfish player would have shut it down for the year with his shoulder injury. He has like 3 separate injuries that all impact his ability to play corner. He's an extremely good college football player and has a realistic shot to make a roster in the NFL if healthy. The only thing fans should be saying is "thank you."
15 months ago many, maybe even you were discussing him as a potential first rounder. now it’s “he may make an nfl roster one day IF he’s healthy”. Hmmmm

He’s so far from an extremely good college player. He’s an average P4 corner at best when he’s at his best.

I had no problem with gray with effort until usc 25, he flat out gave up effort and focus wise that night. Banged up or not, no excuse. At least in 2024 he was battling but just getting beat. This year, His injuries were so bad he miraculously went from not being able to play on Nov 8th, to not even being on an injury report nov 10th!!! It’s so obvious they wanted to mentally re set him. Because, even though he’s not great, he’s better than Zackery and Hobbs and ND needs him to be serviceable.
 

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Say you’re jealous without actually saying it.

Grow up man. Move on. I wasn’t anything special. Don’t need to be that jealous
Hahaha you just are full of shit I played at uw-platteville I don't hide behind some bullshit of a hidden school and who I am my last name is in my handle. Also last year when you almost got banned it was for freeman not being a good coach and riding pretty much the coattails of Golden. Where is that narrative now buddy?
 
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