‘21 AL QB Riley Leonard (Duke Transfer - Notre Dame Verbal)

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Poopsie said:
Solidly mediocre. I would rather us go 8-3 with Angelli or Carr than go 9-2 with Leonard. Develop our recruited players...they want to be here for 3-4 years and a small cheque rather than 1 year and a big cheque. We have landed decent QB's from average programs...not good.
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Sounds a lot like the mentality that sent Clemson back to a mid-tier program.
 
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OKCDomer23 said:
Awesome! Great combination of size, speed, and throwing ability. Kid has a quick release and a great arm. A ton of talent and size to work worth. Super excited about this.
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Love his Mom too.
I was actually jealous of her and his interactions on that College Gameday special
 
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I honestly don’t think I knew who Sam Hartman was last year before he signed with us…

Leonard is just different and GARBAGE ESPN will have to keep up their love for our Offense…

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I really don't understand the view point of all the people that are complaining about ND going to portal to get a QB. I've seen dozens of people in chats and forums say that going to the portal will cause guys to leave. So say we didn't go to the portal and Angeli was named the starter...he's a guy who is perceived not to have NFL talent so he would be at ND for 3 years. Do people really think that Carr or Minchey will transfer sitting behind Leonard for a year but wait it out for 3 years behind Angeli? Would Angeli stay if Minchey was named the starter? And if it was Carr, you risk both Minchey and Angeli leaving because they're not waiting 3 years to start. Bringing Leonard for one year was the right move. Next year you let Minchey and Carr compete because you'll have Deuce at least if one of Carr or Minchey leave. You don't want a 3 year starter at QB with the portal because talented QBs aren't waiting that long and it could hurt depth and recruiting. I think that's what happened with Ian Book.
 
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IrishFanForever23 said:
No idea if true and I didn't hear this before, but sounds like BQ isn't even part of FUND anymore. Sounds like there was some turmoil internally with him wanting to be different and some of the other heavy hitters wanting to play ball.
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Not sure I follow. BQ doesn't want to "play ball" but others in FUND are willing to throw $$ around? Or BQ wants to be even more aggressive?

Halp.
 
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JamIrish said:
I really don't understand the view point of all the people that are complaining about ND going to portal to get a QB. I've seen dozens of people in chats and forums say that going to the portal will cause guys to leave. So say we didn't go to the portal and Angeli was named the starter...he's a guy who is perceived not to have NFL talent so he would be at ND for 3 years. Do people really think that Carr or Minchey will transfer sitting behind Leonard for a year but wait it out for 3 years behind Angeli? Would Angeli stay if Minchey was named the starter? And if it was Carr, you risk both Minchey and Angeli leaving because they're not waiting 3 years to start. Bringing Leonard for one year was the right move. Next year you let Minchey and Carr compete because you'll have Deuce at least if one of Carr or Minchey leave. You don't want a 3 year starter at QB with the portal because talented QBs aren't waiting that long and it could hurt depth and recruiting. I think that's what happened with Ian Book.
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A guy like this screams NFL QB! lol
 
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JamIrish said:
I really don't understand the view point of all the people that are complaining about ND going to portal to get a QB. I've seen dozens of people in chats and forums say that going to the portal will cause guys to leave. So say we didn't go to the portal and Angeli was named the starter...he's a guy who is perceived not to have NFL talent so he would be at ND for 3 years. Do people really think that Carr or Minchey will transfer sitting behind Leonard for a year but wait it out for 3 years behind Angeli? Would Angeli stay if Minchey was named the starter? And if it was Carr, you risk both Minchey and Angeli leaving because they're not waiting 3 years to start. Bringing Leonard for one year was the right move. Next year you let Minchey and Carr compete because you'll have Deuce at least if one of Carr or Minchey leave. You don't want a 3 year starter at QB with the portal because talented QBs aren't waiting that long and it could hurt depth and recruiting. I think that's what happened with Ian Book.
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Cause people will bitch about anything. Oh...its sunny and 90....its too fucking hot. It's cloudy and 40...oh its too fucking cold. Oh hey let's roll into 2024 with a qb that has played in garbage time....fuck no....go get the best qb this day and age and roll with it. With the portal now if someone wants to leave....sorry
 
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I think this is a great get, and exactly what Notre Dame needed. Here me out...

- Notre Dame lost Alt and Fisher. I think it's fair to say that the offensive line will take a step back in the 2024 season;
- Notre Dame will likely lose Estime. Love, Price, and Payne are great backs, each with a unique skillset. However, Estime was a damn workhorse that you could rely on;
- At times, Notre Dame needed the QB to make plays with his feet (see Ohio State - 4th and 1; Duke 4th and 16; Clemson - Hartman 26 yard TD run). Whether that was due to the WR's being covered up, the defense stacking the line to stop Estime, GP poor play calling and scheme, the point still stands, that Hartman had to make plays/attempt to make plays with this legs.

Take a look at RL's stats at Duke:

2022

- Passing: 250/392 (63.78%), 2,967 yds, 20tds/6ints

- Rushing: 124 carries, 812 yds (5.6 avg.), 13tds

2023***

- Passing: 95/165 (57.58%), 1,102 yds, 3tds/3ints

- Rushing: 58 carries, 395 yds (6.1 avg), 4tds

***Obviously, 2023 is skewed due to the injury.

Point being, Riley Leonard is a tremendous athlete. He's a little raw at QB as he hasn't played the position too long, but the point stands, he's an unreal athlete. He can make plays both with his arm and legs. Given the well founded "concerns" of GP, the notable offensive departures (Alt, Fisher, Estime, Chris Tyree, etc.) coupled with the general uncertainty of the guys transferring in, this is exactly what Notre Dame needs - a dynamic, dual threat QB.

Lastly, you've got to love his character. Nothing against Hartman at all, but Leonard comes across as a well grounded, team-first player and leader.
 
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Poopsie said:
I just don't see this signing moving the needle. Three years in a row that we've gone out and signed quarterbacks for 1 year and no difference and you think this is the guy...lol
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Very impressive,… but you are not a master yet,…
 
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Poopsie said:
Solidly mediocre. I would rather us go 8-3 with Angelli or Carr than go 9-2 with Leonard. Develop our recruited players...they want to be here for 3-4 years and a small cheque rather than 1 year and a big cheque. We have landed decent QB's from average programs...not good.
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I mean, technically they aren't mutually exclusive. Granted, playing time helps. but they should still be developing Angeli, Carr and Minchey with RL on the roster. This just means 2025 is up for grabs as a 3 horse race. If that scares one of them off, they shouldn't be the starting QB at ND, or any team with Championship aspirations.
 
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Apparently his great grandfather played football at Notre Dame.

ETA: Damn, his dad also played basketball at The Citadel and his uncle played basketball at Georgetown during the John Thompson years (which is really impressive without going into specifics ;)).
 
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Lberry said:
I really like what ND is doing offensively for 2024.

Going back to the RPO with one of the best athletes at QB coupled with experienced JD Price and J Love, with Payne being no slouch either. We'll remain an in-the-trenches, power running team and probably even better than in 2023.

And when we do throw, we're not making any guesses at WR (Tobias Ferryweather could develop! Braylon James might be bit time one day!). No - instead we get OSU's #1 QB target and are going after big bodied, proven, 3 and 4 year WRs who've played big time ball, all three of them (assuming we get Jamal Banks at worst).

This offense is going to be a pain to stop and they're going to bully you. And if Golden sticks around, our defense will be great again.
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Whoa, slow down fella. Apparently 16oz of Kool Aid is more than enough for you.
 
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