‘21 AL QB Riley Leonard (Duke Transfer - Notre Dame Verbal)

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The other thing the talking heads keep bringing up there's no way they'll make a change because the whole offense is designed around a running QB. Okay, sure. But what happens if the very scenerio we are seeing plays out and he gets hurt? We all knew he would be hurt at some point this season, whether it be a game or multiple games. There isn't an offense the other 3 can run? Are you kidding me?
 
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NDpendent said:
Does anyone remember what happened to Drew Bledsoe in 2001?

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Agreed, I think you skip over, or very least have a short leash on Angeli and go to Minchy or Carr at the first sign of disaster, and live with whatever they produce the rest of the season. If Angeli is that much better than them, you'd assumed he would of won the job in the off season.
 
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IrishLax said:
The fact that he tore a labrum so couldn't do QB runs actually makes sense on why the game plan changed dramatically after the first drive, but what doesn't make sense is why they didn't pull him for Angeli if he was hurt.
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This is my thought too

I doubt he plays the next four weeks.
 
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NDPhilly said:
Have to wonder how much Riley hid the pain, trying to be a gamer / not lose his starting spot.
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Guy hasn’t stopped trying to hide it, even now that everyone knows.

He’s probably been petitioning since Sunday morning that he can play the rest of the way if they just hook him up with the cortisone shot before kickoff. And I bet it’s really hard on MFMF, because I bet he responds to the combination of can-do and play-through-it attitude
 
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IrishLion said:
Guy hasn’t stopped trying to hide it, even now that everyone knows.

He’s probably been petitioning since Sunday morning that he can play the rest of the way if they just hook him up with the cortisone shot before kickoff. And I bet it’s really hard on MFMF, because I bet he responds to the combination of can-do and play-through-it attitude
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Exactly. The problem is him being injured AND the fact that playing through it hurt the team. Which is the most frustrating part. He wasn't being a good teammate, in fact he basically hindered the team by doing so.
 
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SDIrishFan said:
The other thing the talking heads keep bringing up there's no way they'll make a change because the whole offense is designed around a running QB. Okay, sure. But what happens if the very scenerio we are seeing plays out and he gets hurt? We all knew he would be hurt at some point this season, whether it be a game or multiple games. There isn't an offense the other 3 can run? Are you kidding me?
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Also... Angeli can kinda run? He did against Oregon State.
 
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Leonard can still redshirt. And I think he should. Then decide to transfer or stick it out and compete. I think it’s best for his pro potential to redshirt if injured. He’s almost guaranteed to get replaced, injured, or lose games if he plays all season.
 
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I think they damaged his confidence with the "don't make a mistake mentality." I believe that mentality comes from Freeman and is at least partially responsible for our QB issues the past 3 years.
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No. Freeman wants like all coaches want to limit turnovers and the criticism and inference that it has played a part in the poor play is frankly stupid. If Leonard heeded Freeman’s advice, we would have won the game.

Leonard is a JV Tebow. He has flashes of ability that all average QBs have that fools people into thinking that there might be more. There isn’t.

Our QB issues stem primarily from either lack of offensive identity or an offensive style that is incompatible with our personnel.
 
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N_D_Fighting_Irish said:
No. Freeman wants like all coaches want to limit turnovers and the criticism and inference that it has played a part in the poor play is frankly stupid. If Leonard heeded Freeman’s advice, we would have won the game.

Leonard is a JV Tebow. He has flashes of ability that all average QBs have that fools people into thinking that there might be more. There isn’t.

Our QB issues stem primarily from either lack of offensive identity or an offensive style that is incompatible with our personnel.
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How dare you use St. Timothy's name with such negligence!?

I think Riley is more like a poor man's Sam Bradford. He's a better runner, but a worse thrower.
 
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SDIrishFan said:
I have no idea, but the speculation is he cost $1-2 million to get here. I'm sure whomever spent that money doesn't want to see it on the bench.

That said, you wouldn't think they'd want to see ND lose either.
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The amount they paid him also doesn’t match with what Freeman said before the game about not taking “risks”. You can see why he didn’t consider that Collins pass when freeman has said that crap.
 
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IrishLax said:
The fact that he tore a labrum so couldn't do QB runs actually makes sense on why the game plan changed dramatically after the first drive, but what doesn't make sense is why they didn't pull him for Angeli if he was hurt.
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Exactly. That’s the point O’Malley was trying to make in that if he was “banged up” and needs to be tended to, what’s wrong w/ going w/ Angeli for a few series until medical clears him to run? We don’t think twice when another position player has to sit for a few plays or series after getting banged up so why shouldn’t it be the case here when ND has the deepest QB room in recent memory?
 
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IrishLax said:
Also... Angeli can kinda run? He did against Oregon State.
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I’d say he’s mobile and as long as Denbrock picked the right time to run draw or RPO, it could catch the D off guard. He’s not going to have anywhere near the escapability that RL has. If they corral him in the pocket, he’s going down.
 
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NDPhilly said:
Freeman always does this, he only is going to defend his players at press conferences. He’s lied many times to protect his players.
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How is this defending him? Leonard has been exposed and is hurt. All ND opponents have to do is load the box to defend the run and dare him to throw.
 
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