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Irish du Nord said:

Legacy TE/DE Henry Fitzpatrick visited for Stanford. He camped at Irish Invasion, could be a PWO candidate.
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No such thing as a PWO anymore under the 105 roster limit.
Either the player is offered a roster spot, or not. There may or may not be room for a walk-on from Campus depending how the roster is shaping up each Summer. But the way this team is recruiting, don't bank on anything.
 
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Irish Cedar said:
No such thing as a PWO anymore under the 105 roster limit.
Either the player is offered a roster spot, or not. There may or may not be room for a walk-on from Campus depending how the roster is shaping up each Summer. But the way this team is recruiting, don't bank on anything.
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No, they still exist. A roster spot and a scholarship are different things.
 
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SportsingHard said:
No, they still exist. A roster spot and a scholarship are different things.
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Designated Student Athletes (DSAs) exist - but they are grandfathered in PWOs and walk-ons from when the NCAA went to 105. But they will be out of eligibility in 2 years. There are no new ones. The roster is 105, and that's it.
 
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Irish Cedar said:
Designated Student Athletes (DSAs) exist - but they are grandfathered in PWOs and walk-ons from when the NCAA went to 105. But they will be out of eligibility in 2 years. There are no new ones. The roster is 105, and that's it.
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Wow. You really can't comprehend the fact that roster size is irrelevant to this discussion.
 
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What is a preferred walk on (PWO)?​

A preferred walk-on (PWO) offer promises you a roster spot, but you won’t receive any athletic aid. A preferred walk-on is the highest status a recruit can get outside of receiving an athletic scholarship. Preferred walk-ons will go into college with a roster spot secured, receive a uniform and have a strong chance of competing for playing time their first year.
Some student-athletes will turn down scholarship offers at smaller schools to play for a bigger program as a preferred walk-on. But keep in mind, even preferred walk-ons can get cut during try-outs or team camp if they aren’t meeting coach expectations.

  • Guaranteed spot on the team.
  • No athletic scholarship.
  • May still get cut if performance doesn’t meet expectations.

Can preferred walk-ons earn a scholarship?​

Yes, scholarships can be earned going into a second season, but nothing is guaranteed. They are, however, typically first in line when scholarship dollars free up.

Do preferred walk-ons sign on signing day?​

Technically, preferred walk-ons don’t have anything to sign on Signing Day, as they aren’t receiving an athletic scholarship. However, walk-ons are an essential part of a successful team, and college coaches want to celebrate their signing, as well. Ask your future coach about having something to sign, especially if your school is throwing a Signing Day party. Don’t forget to rep your new school with some gear!

College Walk-On Guide: Scholarships & All Offer Types Explained
 
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Dale said:
Nobody said you were wrong, I said you were a prick.
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Yeah, unlike you, I can read. I don't get why you got your panties twisted in the first place. My initial comment was perfectly polite and informative, but you read it like an asshole.

And to be clear, you didn't insist I was wrong, but someone else did. That's why we're having this conversation.
 
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SportsingHard said:

What is a preferred walk on (PWO)?​

A preferred walk-on (PWO) offer promises you a roster spot, but you won’t receive any athletic aid. A preferred walk-on is the highest status a recruit can get outside of receiving an athletic scholarship. Preferred walk-ons will go into college with a roster spot secured, receive a uniform and have a strong chance of competing for playing time their first year.
Some student-athletes will turn down scholarship offers at smaller schools to play for a bigger program as a preferred walk-on. But keep in mind, even preferred walk-ons can get cut during try-outs or team camp if they aren’t meeting coach expectations.

  • Guaranteed spot on the team.
  • No athletic scholarship.
  • May still get cut if performance doesn’t meet expectations.

Can preferred walk-ons earn a scholarship?​

Yes, scholarships can be earned going into a second season, but nothing is guaranteed. They are, however, typically first in line when scholarship dollars free up.

Do preferred walk-ons sign on signing day?​

Technically, preferred walk-ons don’t have anything to sign on Signing Day, as they aren’t receiving an athletic scholarship. However, walk-ons are an essential part of a successful team, and college coaches want to celebrate their signing, as well. Ask your future coach about having something to sign, especially if your school is throwing a Signing Day party. Don’t forget to rep your new school with some gear!

College Walk-On Guide: Scholarships & All Offer Types Explained
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Stop. Just stop.
105 is the roster limit. Walk ons or Full Scholarships. Full stop.
The only exception are DSAs which are grandfathered in from when the 105 roster limit was introduced ~18 months ago. Once all the DSAs matriculate, that's it.

But by all means, keep arguing like an ass.
 
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NDdomer2 said:
He has cookies tho!
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Irish Cedar said:
Stop. Just stop.
105 is the roster limit. Walk ons or Full Scholarships. Full stop.
The only exception are DSAs which are grandfathered in from when the 105 roster limit was introduced ~18 months ago. Once all the DSAs matriculate, that's it.

But by all means, keep arguing like an ass.
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This is what Sportsing originally said...
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No, they still exist. A roster spot and a scholarship are different things.
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Right, the roster of 105 may contain scholarship, partial scholarships, or non-scholarship athletes (walk-ons).

Also the original, 'non prick' answer that Dale is ignoring/missing.

www.ncsasports.org

College Walk-On Guide: Scholarships & All Offer Types Explained

What is a preferred walk-on? Explore all college athletic offer types—full-ride, partial scholarships, walk-ons, and redshirt/grayshirt statuses.
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Irish Cedar said:
Designated Student Athletes (DSAs) exist - but they are grandfathered in PWOs and walk-ons from when the NCAA went to 105. But they will be out of eligibility in 2 years. There are no new ones. The roster is 105, and that's it.
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You are correct that DSAs do not count against roster limits. Sportsing isn't talking about exceeding roster limits, though. He is talking about whether the player is on scholarship or not.

Many schools (low level) are not going to be able to offer 105 full/partial scholarships and may use PWOs to fill help out the roster.

 
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Holy crap. A PWO is offered a roster spot, but not a scholarship BEFORE they arrive on Campus. Freeman (and Kelly) used to offer several PWOs every year.

Name one! Name one PWO offer from Freeman since July 24, 2024 (when the 105 was announced). Just one.

And for extra marks, when only 5 players on this entire roster is out of eligibility this year (Washington, Onye, Craig, Sneed and McKinney - and even Craig can appeal), and 23 recruits incoming (likely more), explain to me why (or how) Freeman would offer one of the 105 guaranteed roster spots to a kid not worth a scholarship in the era of NIL.
 
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Irish Cedar said:
Holy crap. A PWO is offered a roster spot, but not a scholarship BEFORE they arrive on Campus. Freeman (and Kelly) used to offer several PWOs every year.

Name one! Name one PWO offer from Freeman since July 24, 2024 (when the 105 was announced). Just one.

And for extra marks, when only 5 players on this entire roster is out of eligibility this year (Washington, Onye, Craig, Sneed and McKinney - and even Craig can appeal), and 23 recruits incoming (likely more), explain to me why (or how) Freeman would offer one of the 105 guaranteed roster spots to a kid not worth a scholarship in the era of NIL.
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Correct!

Irish Cedar said:
No such thing as a PWO anymore under the 105 roster limit.
Either the player is offered a roster spot, or not. There may or may not be room for a walk-on from Campus depending how the roster is shaping up each Summer. But the way this team is recruiting, don't bank on anything.
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Incorrect!
 
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Irish Cedar said:
Holy crap. A PWO is offered a roster spot, but not a scholarship BEFORE they arrive on Campus. Freeman (and Kelly) used to offer several PWOs every year.

Name one! Name one PWO offer from Freeman since July 24, 2024 (when the 105 was announced). Just one.

And for extra marks, when only 5 players on this entire roster is out of eligibility this year (Washington, Onye, Craig, Sneed and McKinney - and even Craig can appeal), and 23 recruits incoming (likely more), explain to me why (or how) Freeman would offer one of the 105 guaranteed roster spots to a kid not worth a scholarship in the era of NIL.
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I can't tell if you're still talking to me or perhaps some poster I've unfollowed, but our discussion (your beligerent nonsense, my correction) never had anything to do with ND.
 
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