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Definitely the most big time DL we’ve been in on early in a cycle that I can remember in awhile.
 

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Wasn’t ISD optimistic on WR recruiting last cycle yet that went South fast
 

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2008, get out your Vaseline and Kleenex Family Size tissue box. Your party is about to start.
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any hints?

It's been stated already so I'd say Ewetade seems close to CB territory (my opinion based on their continued reporting).

ND in good spots with a lot of the names we've heard about. It doesn't necessarily mean they lead for all, but they're positioned well for visits (some multiple like Golden and Dunham) with the likes of Blade, Golden, Dunham, Griffin-Haynes, Clark, Hola.

My opinion- ND will land Ewetade, Clark, and Blade. Unsure about the others. I want to believe on Golden but there's some stiff competition there.
 

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Wasn’t ISD optimistic on WR recruiting last cycle yet that went South fast
They weren't sunshine pumpers like IB and II (the recruiting folks) were, but I remember Mike, Greg, and Jamie being skeptical. Greg said that there were bad vibes with some of the WR targets, and Mike said that the staff would have to prove it because they had problems closing in the 2023 and 2024 classes. I don't think they expected them to strike out on Hines/Meadows/Hall/Robinson, though. Jamie said early on that pretty much no WR targets talked about Mike Brown, which he said didn't make him feel good.
 

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How is this exhausting it's the fucking truth. Deal with it
Everyone remembers man. You're on an ND board with some of the most plugged in people who follow the team and recruiting.

Everyone is aware of the WR recruiting falling off a fucking cliff last year. You saying it for the 35,000th time doesn't add a thing to the discusson.
 

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Also... Biagi's more worried about getting to the punter, not setting up the returner. So that leaves the returner on an island with the gunners.

So what's more important? The guy who proved in practice he'll secure the ball and get you a few yds when he can or the guy voted most likely to break one but fumbles in practice?

Whatever Biagi thought was net best for the ST's is fine with me. He produced a lot of pts for ND with his unit.
This right here. Great point BMac!

I'd love to see opponent punting avg vs. ND compared to their average, factoring in blocks.

I'd bet ND's emphasis on affecting the punter and getting blocks far outpaces setting up a "gamebreaker" for a return.
 

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Everyone remembers man. You're on an ND board with some of the most plugged in people who follow the team and recruiting.

Everyone is aware of the WR recruiting falling off a fucking cliff last year. You saying it for the 35,000th time doesn't add a thing to the discusson.
You are the voice of all of us. He is the worst part of this board and that's saying alot when people actually think that Skyline chili is edible......

I'll see ya'll at the Irasy.

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Holy cow dude they tried Faison back there. He didn’t do anymore more than Hurleman, if not worse. UAB returned 16 punts. Baylor 14. Pitt 13. Stanford 14. All those teams stunk and barely returned punts. You’re citing Trent Dilfer as proof you are correct brother.

You’re literally talking about 2 or 3 plays in an entire season being anything worth mattering! A “world of difference” is just flat out incorrect and can be statistically proven.

What if Faison turned his ankle again back there? What if Greathouse took a shot to the head and we didn’t have him versus PSU? Would that be worth a 12 yard return one time over Hurleman’s fair catch?

You think Marty Biagi never considered any of this? Freeman pays that nerd that stands behind behind him to tell him things like returning punts is a statistically insignificant venture.
They tried Faison back there and he averaged 14.0/per return don't know what Math you were in but I can assure you it's definitely greater than the 6.0 Hurleman averaged, as it should be with a shifty/speedy guy back there. You citing how many returns those teams had makes my case furthermore, even though you forgot Wake (My older bros Alma Mater) who I watched live 6 games this year and Morin was a stud on PRS, so your telling me that those five teams COMBINED returned 71 punts for damn near 1200yds (1186) 16.7avg and 6 TD's and that makes no difference on the game?? Tell that to the opposition

I'm talking 2 or 3 plays a season you say? Well I beg to differ but if that's the case I can think of 2 or 3 plays that change our season this past year and the one before as well, how about you? It can be statistically proven that ST's can be the most important part of the game and that's something i've experienced first hand and not just from a bird's eye view or as a spectator. If you've played before at least at a PREP level its something i'm sure your coaches told shared with you as well. Field position is KEY in a game of inches and being a fan of Notre Dame since the '80's it's something I was spoiled by with our embarrassment of riches (and SPEED) we had in our return game year after year especially with Holtz, Davie and Weis.

Now the what if game? What if I was playing for Notre Dame in the Gator Bowl instead of against them, what if Tim Brown turned his ankle against MSU, Rocket got turf toe against Michigan, Rossum pulled a hammy against Pitt or Purdue, Mike Miller wasn't eligible against Michigan....Would playing a walk-on to return punts benefit the team in any of those situations instead of having your gamebreaking speedsters on the field? You know the guys you recruited for that exact reason as opposed to just a guy to fair catch?? I'm sure you would rather all those moments be erased because boy if your worried about a Faison injury on a PR i'm sure you would've had a heart attack at the thought of Brown, Ismail, or Rossum getting an injury, while I would be more concerned about causing heart attacks for the opposition in the fear they have in kicking our guy the ball. Whether to give up field position kicking it away from them or give them a chance to touch their head on the goal post.

Lastly I can wager anything that MF surely doesn't tell Biagi that PRs is statistically insignificant, because Freeman has said over and over again how important it was as well as field position and that Special teams is the most important phase of the game. Do you watch his press conferences??

I'll do you one better, you care to wager on who will or certainly won't be returning punts in '25?
 

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You are the voice of all of us. He is the worst part of this board and that's saying alot when people actually think that Skyline chili is edible......

I'll see ya'll at the Irasy.

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Mmmm Skyline.

I love Greek Spaghetti!
 

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Also... Biagi's more worried about getting to the punter, not setting up the returner. So that leaves the returner on an island with the gunners.

So what's more important? The guy who proved in practice he'll secure the ball and get you a few yds when he can or the guy voted most likely to break one but fumbles in practice?

Whatever Biagi thought was net best for the ST's is fine with me. He produced a lot of pts for ND with his unit.
Agreed in that context, even though I believe that was more of a Freeman "riverboat gambler" strategy seeing as though he was the lead guy coaching the punt coverage unit as opposed to Biagi.

Between those two I would say the guy who has the best ball safety, but are you saying that the only people with ball safety are the guys who happen to be no threat in the return game at all? Because ND history more than any has proven that to be false. Faison probably wasn't the main guy this year because he was nursing nagging injuries most of the year. Why would it have to be the fair catching Goodman vs fumbling Rocket? Just two extremes in that case.

Kudos to the coverage units they were outstanding but its something Freeman takes pride in, Biagi was a helluva additon especially after seeing him at Ole Miss and Purdue.
 

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How much film does one need to watch to have a more informed opinion than the coaching staff?
The same amount of film one would watch to reward an IVY league transfer an opportunity to not only see the field but touch the ball in his only year of big time Football I suppose.
 

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They tried Faison back there and he averaged 14.0/per return don't know what Math you were in but I can assure you it's definitely greater than the 6.0 Hurleman averaged, as it should be with a shifty/speedy guy back there. You citing how many returns those teams had makes my case furthermore, even though you forgot Wake (My older bros Alma Mater) who I watched live 6 games this year and Morin was a stud on PRS, so your telling me that those five teams COMBINED returned 71 punts for damn near 1200yds (1186) 16.7avg and 6 TD's and that makes no difference on the game?? Tell that to the opposition

I'm talking 2 or 3 plays a season you say? Well I beg to differ but if that's the case I can think of 2 or 3 plays that change our season this past year and the one before as well, how about you? It can be statistically proven that ST's can be the most important part of the game and that's something i've experienced first hand and not just from a bird's eye view or as a spectator. If you've played before at least at a PREP level its something i'm sure your coaches told shared with you as well. Field position is KEY in a game of inches and being a fan of Notre Dame since the '80's it's something I was spoiled by with our embarrassment of riches (and SPEED) we had in our return game year after year especially with Holtz, Davie and Weis.

Now the what if game? What if I was playing for Notre Dame in the Gator Bowl instead of against them, what if Tim Brown turned his ankle against MSU, Rocket got turf toe against Michigan, Rossum pulled a hammy against Pitt or Purdue, Mike Miller wasn't eligible against Michigan....Would playing a walk-on to return punts benefit the team in any of those situations instead of having your gamebreaking speedsters on the field? You know the guys you recruited for that exact reason as opposed to just a guy to fair catch?? I'm sure you would rather all those moments be erased because boy if your worried about a Faison injury on a PR i'm sure you would've had a heart attack at the thought of Brown, Ismail, or Rossum getting an injury, while I would be more concerned about causing heart attacks for the opposition in the fear they have in kicking our guy the ball. Whether to give up field position kicking it away from them or give them a chance to touch their head on the goal post.

Lastly I can wager anything that MF surely doesn't tell Biagi that PRs is statistically insignificant, because Freeman has said over and over again how important it was as well as field position and that Special teams is the most important phase of the game. Do you watch his press conferences??

I'll do you one better, you care to wager on who will or certainly won't be returning punts in '25?

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Everyone remembers man. You're on an ND board with some of the most plugged in people who follow the team and recruiting.

Everyone is aware of the WR recruiting falling off a fucking cliff last year. You saying it for the 35,000th time doesn't add a thing to the discusson.
No, no, no that is not what he was saying.
He was saying the talking heads were pumping sunshine about the WR recruiting last year so many thought it was looking good theeen they all turned out to be wrong.

It is a legitimate "fool me once shame on you" take.
 

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Agreed in that context, even though I believe that was more of a Freeman "riverboat gambler" strategy seeing as though he was the lead guy coaching the punt coverage unit as opposed to Biagi.

Between those two I would say the guy who has the best ball safety, but are you saying that the only people with ball safety are the guys who happen to be no threat in the return game at all? Because ND history more than any has proven that to be false. Faison probably wasn't the main guy this year because he was nursing nagging injuries most of the year. Why would it have to be the fair catching Goodman vs fumbling Rocket? Just two extremes in that case.

Kudos to the coverage units they were outstanding but its something Freeman takes pride in, Biagi was a helluva additon especially after seeing him at Ole Miss and Purdue.

I'm guessing the guy with the best security is the guy getting the gig. I'd love to run Devin Hester but who is our Devin Hester?

So logic says, Free sees hurley man as a net positive over the other guys (remember, he sees them in practice everyday). The fact he chooses to get aggressive pressuring the punter must tighten his sphincter enough to run out the good hands crew to mitigate potential loss.

All I know is ST's are a big net positive so I'll spend my energy bishin about DT recruiting and why I can't get a single outlet to write me a Gunner Rivers article.
 

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Could Perry-Wright be a possibility if ND breaks out the GOLD CARD???

No mention of a visit at this date but... You have my attention Coach Washington.

 
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