2025 Spring Practice Thread

[ulukinatme]

Thats the thing, if the WRs are like what we have had over the last 3 years it might be better to go with Minchey for the running.

While the WR room has been subpar for a long time, I think we have some decent talent right now if we develop them properly. It stands to reason that our QBs have been lackluster in the passing department the last two years, and while Coan/Book had decent arms and accuracy I don't think either was a Brady Quinn or Jimmy Clausen type. Then again, Book and especially Coan didn't have the same WR talent as those other guys.

 

[stpeteirish]

That was bad ass.

Just getting some film out for all those schools with men’s gymnastics. Has to be a half dozen or so

 

[BeatSC]

If there was any doubt of who was the most athletic QB we know for sure now.

 

[BeatSC]

I thought the coverage was ass BTW. The commentators were just talking about what they felt like and very casual about doing the play by play. Would mention who carried the ball who caught the ball or who made the tackle half the time. Hope Fields is next level and physical as our WRs were far from appearing elite. We know what Faison and greathouse can do but don’t think this looks like an upgrade from last years group based on what I saw. Offense looked considerably better when they got the 2’s & 3’s which is no way to assess them imo. Carr looked the part of a power five QB. I think it would be fair to Minchey or Angeli to tell them if they are likely the odd man out now. Think they should both stay though. Get a few NIL dollars and ND degree. Angelo is not going to the NFL but maybe he is the next Tommy Rees.

 

[luckofirish8]

Minchey most likely needs another year to finish his degree, right? That alone may be enough to get him to stay even if he is third on the depth chart. Finish up degree and would still have two years of eligibility to try to get some game time. May be wishful thinking, but wouldn't be the craziest thing either.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Minchey most likely needs another year to finish his degree, right? That alone may be enough to get him to stay even if he is third on the depth chart. Finish up degree and would still have two years of eligibility to try to get some game time. May be wishful thinking, but wouldn't be the craziest thing either.

This is where I’m at no matter where he goes he’s gonna have to compete and isn’t gonna be guaranteed a starting spot unless it’s at a lower level school

 

[Dale]

Fun fact: As far as I can tell, Denbrock has never been the OC of a team without a semi-mobile QB. Qualifying Carr and UCs 2017 starter as at least semi mobile. Enough to keep a read option.

 

[317Irish]

Fun fact: As far as I can tell, Denbrock has never been the OC of a team without a semi-mobile QB. Qualifying Carr and UCs 2017 starter as at least semi mobile. Enough to keep a read option.

I see that as more than just a fun fact… likely foreshadowing where things end up. Only question is when things start to become clear

 

[greyhammer90]

Man... 3 1/2 months till we get to start having fun again with August camp.

 

[Ricochet]

Outside of injuries..on what planet does he get snaps for ND this season?

RB room is so loaded that he's just not going to get the playing time this coming season. That said he looks damn good, I know some see him as another Kyren Williams but IMO that goes to Aneyas Williams where as I see ASU's Cam Skattebo. Either way you know your room is stacked a talent like Nolan James is RB #6.

 

[IrishLion]

Man... 3 1/2 months till we get to start having fun again with August camp.

That’s a long time before meaningful football discussion related to the ‘25 season…

Gonna need to work on identifying Koon’s newest burner to keep us all busy

 

[Crazy Balki]

Fun fact: As far as I can tell, Denbrock has never been the OC of a team without a semi-mobile QB. Qualifying Carr and UCs 2017 starter as at least semi mobile. Enough to keep a read option.

I wouldn't consider Golson's mobility really anything better than Angeli's or Minchey's.

 

[Dale]

I wouldn't consider Golson's mobility really anything better than Angeli’s or Minchey's.

I would.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

I would.

Golson‘s mobility in the pocket was significantly better than Angeli’s, especially laterally. He was a much more sudden athlete.

 

[ulukinatme]

Fun fact: Angeli has a better YPC in the one game he started compared to any season Golson started for us. Golson may have moved better in the pocket, which is debatable, but he wasn't really much of a running threat which is what the mobile discussion is about. Golson never hit 300 yards rushing in a season. Zaire pre-injury was the mobile one, but Denbrock was gone when he took over.

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

Fun fact: Angeli has a better YPC in the one game he started compared to any season Golson started for us. Golson may have moved better in the pocket, which is debatable, but he wasn't really much of a running threat which is what the mobile discussion is about. Golson never hit 300 yards rushing in a season. Zaire pre-injury was the mobile one, but Denbrock was gone when he took over.

True. Didn’t we intentionally tell Golson not to run? Maybe I’m not remembering well, but I feel like I remember being frustrated that he didn’t take off more (he was quick enough) & reading/hearing that the staff wanted him in the pocket.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Golson‘s mobility in the pocket was significantly better than Angeli’s, especially laterally. He was a much more sudden athlete.

Hard disagree.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Fun fact: Angeli has a better YPC in the one game he started compared to any season Golson started for us. Golson may have moved better in the pocket, which is debatable, but he wasn't really much of a running threat which is what the mobile discussion is about. Golson never hit 300 yards rushing in a season. Zaire pre-injury was the mobile one, but Denbrock was gone when he took over.

This. People are SERIOUSLY overrating Golson's athleticism. He wasn't a statue, but this notion that he was a significantly better runner than Angeli is a total fantasy.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

Golson‘s mobility in the pocket was significantly better than Angeli’s, especially laterally. He was a much more sudden athlete.

True. Didn’t we intentionally tell Golson not to run? Maybe I’m not remembering well, but I feel like I remember being frustrated that he didn’t take off more (he was quick enough) & reading/hearing that the staff wanted him in the pocket.

If my memory serves me is that while Golson could and did get himself out of trouble in the pocket he would often run himself into trouble as well, which is especially a problem when you play fast and lose with the ball as he sometimes did. He had the kind of fluid athleticism you see in basketball players.

 

[ulukinatme]

True. Didn’t we intentionally tell Golson not to run? Maybe I’m not remembering well, but I feel like I remember being frustrated that he didn’t take off more (he was quick enough) & reading/hearing that the staff wanted him in the pocket.

He was quick-ish, but yeah not super mobile or a real dual threat. For reference, he ran 4.89 on his 40 time for Pro Day. Ian Book, who was certainly a bit more mobile and was known more for taking off when plays broke down, had a 4.59 time for his 40 Pro Day. Tommy Rees ran a 5.09 on his 40, so funny enough Golson was actually closer to Rees in speed than Book.

 

[Rocketman84]

I wouldn't consider Golson's mobility really anything better than Angeli's or Minchey's.

Much better agility

 

[TheProspector]

Much better agility

Nailed it. Angeli probably has comparable straight line speed; he may actually be faster in a race. But Golson would be far better in a 3 cone drill.

 

[IrishLion]

Pitt 2012 is all you need to see Golson’s mobility.

Theo Riddick didn’t have great open-field speed, but he’d break tackles in a phone booth. Golson was the same in the pocket.

Idk about Minchey, but Golson would dance circles around Angeli in any drill related to QB elusiveness.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

I’m going to rewatch tonight. Already jonesing for more football.

 

[NDFAN2008]

I think regardless who our QB is we will have some growing pains and it might cost us a loss or 2.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

I think regardless who our QB is we will have some growing pains and it might cost us a loss or 2.

Not that I’m expecting 12-0, but the team is so loaded everywhere I expect them to overcome a few mistakes.

 

[Dale]

This. People are SERIOUSLY overrating Golson's athleticism. He wasn't a statue, but this notion that he was a significantly better runner than Angeli is a total fantasy.

He was more mobile than Angeli. If you want to argue the degree, you can but it’s also a fantasy to argue the other direction that Angeli is more mobile than Golson was and will be accounted for in the run game the same way. Golson still averaged around 5 designed runs per game even with his butter fingers. Either way, you’re going back to 2014 in his first year as an OC where he inherited a former starting QB, the point largely (entirely) remains.

 

[Dale]

Fun fact: Angeli has a better YPC in the one game he started compared to any season Golson started for us. Golson may have moved better in the pocket, which is debatable, but he wasn't really much of a running threat which is what the mobile discussion is about. Golson never hit 300 yards rushing in a season. Zaire pre-injury was the mobile one, but Denbrock was gone when he took over.

He had 479 sack adjusted rushing yards in 2014.

 

[arrowryan]

No, Golson wasn’t Lamar Jackson. But comparing Anegli’s mobility to Golson’s is one of the funniest things I’ve seen on IE in 14 years.

 

[allenm5333]

No, Golson wasn’t Lamar Jackson. But comparing Anegli’s mobility to Golson’s is one of the funniest things I’ve seen on IE in 14 years.

Not going to go through the rest of the feed, but did someone really say Angeli was more mobile than Golson…?