2025 College Football Playoffs

[Canes4theWin]

Also, with a system like this, since the conference teams are now more willing to play non-conference games against top P4 conference teams and ND, I think ND should leverage it's strong brand and current NBC contract (where NBC also has Big10 games) to get a Big10 tie up where ND has 2-4 games against Big10 team every year, similar to ACC deal (that also enables ND to get USC at least in some years, if not annually). NBC I would think would love that so ND and conference TV right deals could go uninterrupted. And then keep ACC tie up or kill that and do more Clemson deals with top ACC teams only, so include similar tie up with Miami. ND also needs to ensure there are top P4 games on their annual slate or it could bit us in some years. For example, next year's schedule is shit and won't be helpful for SOS for making the 2026 CFP.

Would love if Miami and Notre Dame played yearly

Should continue to be a huge game with implications and as an ACC team it’s hard to get quality opponents that the playoff committee respects

 

[Wild Bill]

Because it means more in the SEC.

If Bama loses to Georgia and thus loses their only really impressive win this season that loss against FSU should bite them but it won’t because they’re sec royalty

Pretty much. Doesn't help that acc is asleep at the wheel and somehow concocted the dumbest way possible to get Duke into the acccg instead of their best team by a wide margin. Totally insane

 

[Riddickulous]

Would love if Miami and Notre Dame played yearly

Should continue to be a huge game with implications and as an ACC team it’s hard to get quality opponents that the playoff committee respects

I think ND-Miami could return to being a pretty intense rivalry, especially after this playoff controversy.

 

[Canes4theWin]

The fact that this has turned entirely into a Miami or ND fight -instead of Miami + ND vs. one of OU/Bama- is very interesting. I think Miami deserves to be in, too. Has any Miami fan said they deserve to be in over OU and/or Bama?

Yes, but most Miami fans know the sec protection racket won’t let that happen. It’s total bs they were even trying to get 3 loss Texas in who got dog walked by a horrible Texas team (who was 1-4 against FBS teams after beating Texas)

 

[Bane]

The obvious truth is both Miami and Notre Dame are among the ten best teams in the country and the SEC doesnt deserve 5 teams to get in. They’re getting preferential treatment and are overrated.

It’s total bullshit and they use preseason rankings and bs media pressure that leads to circular reasoning

It’s so annoying and frustrating. Oklahoma has a horrible offense and I don’t see them having a real chance to go far in the playoffs their QB has been playing poorly since his thumb injury.

Ole miss lost their head coach and apparently that’s not an issue lol.

Bama gets helped by the refs against a coach less Auburn team and moves ahead of ND who has looked locked in. Theyre just protecting bama

I don’t know what they’re going to do but it’s lame that the sec is always getting preferential treatment and ruining college football

Assuming by your username you are a Miami fan, I agree totally that your team is better than Ole Miss, OU, and Alabama. OU and OM are just so unbalanced as a team for me to really like their odds. They sport the two worst units in the playoff field (OM's defense and OU's offense) and that is putting aside OM's obvious coaching chaos. If you examine OM vs BYU it's pretty obvious they are ranked where they are respectively because of their conference affiliations.

And Bama, well I've watched 4 or 5 of their games and have not been impressed with them. They have flashes of being extremely dangerous, but then look very bad for long stretches of games. Ty Simpson is either god mode or he plays like he's never seen a football before in his life with almost no in between.

 

[WildMan1]

Could someone explain the likely scenario if byu and Georgia lose? Wouldn’t Georgia move down, but not behind us, and byu move down behind Miami?

Yea thats not what we want.. We really need Bama to lose & drop behind us.

If Georgia & BYU lose I think the committee will be forced to judge us & Miami side by side & we’ll be left out as Georgia would fall to 9, Bama to 8?, BYU would drop below Miami & it would be between us for the 10th spot.

We want Georgia & Texas Tech to win so BYU is out, Bama drops to 10 & we bump to 9 & Miami is 1st out at 11 & we’re never judged “side by side”

 

[bcole2]

I know FD and DK odds aren't perfect, but I think they have a fairly good handle on the situation here. Mathematically the implied odds of a TT/Georgia win are 46%, TT/Alabama is 37%, BYU/Georgia is 10% and BYU/Alabama is 7%. The following is all assuming that these are the only 2 games that affect our playoff probability, which I think is reasonable. Virginia/Duke and Boise/SDSU likely won't affect it significantly. Our current implied odds to make the playoff are about 81%. That fits with the notion that if TTU wins, then we are in, and it is very unlikely anything affects that. If it was expected that Miami would jump us in either of the situations where TT won, specifically TT/Alabama, our odds would be much closer to 46%. I know that point margin could affect this somewhat, but I really don't think Miami is a concern here guys. TTU wins, we are in.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Could someone explain the likely scenario if byu and Georgia lose? Wouldn’t Georgia move down, but not behind us, and byu move down behind Miami?

Georgia would likely drop to 4 and become the 2nd highest at-large behind the loser of IU/Ohio State.

BYU would stay put. Like last season, teams that are slated as at-large teams and lose their CCG won't fall behind other at-large teams who didn't play.

Just like last season, when ND was #4 in the CFP polls, #2 Texas and #3 Penn State lost and both stayed ahead of ND.

Essentially, the committee has 2 types of teams, the conference #1's and at-larges. BYU is already an at-large, so their status isn't going to change, whereas Texas Tech, should they lose, their status would change. They'd go from conference #1 to at-large and then be re-ranked as such.

 

[Canes4theWin]

Still thinking how stupid it is to have these conferences if you have to try to send 5+ teams from your conference to the playoffs just to figure out who is actually better. Instead of auto bids, there should just be hard caps on how many a conference can have in the freaking thing. (No more than two. Figure it out.)

And I cannot roll my eyes hard enough at the idiots still chiming at us to join one of these things or complaining that we don't play a conference championship. Hello? Many of the teams they are trying to squeeze in there won't have played or won a conference championship. At least we didn't schedule Eastern Illinois.

Conferences are also comically big and stupid now. The ACC has a 17 way tie for second place and Duke, a team that lost to the two good ACC teams they played, and lost pretty much every OOC game they played is representing the conference.

Virginia, is also in the title game, having lost to NC State in a game that doesnt count against their conference record because their lame ADs didn’t schedule any other opponents

Obviously you can’t change the tie breaker rules mid season, but it’s a joke that Duke could win and keep the conference out of the CFP when there is a deserving team with the same conference record

 

[Huntr]

r/cfb mods stanning ND.

hmm.

 

[ulukinatme]

I never saw this the first time around...that's some real shit!

 

[Wild Bill]

Georgia would likely drop to 4 and become the 2nd highest at-large behind the loser of IU/Ohio State.

BYU would stay put. Like last season, teams that are slated as at-large teams and lose their CCG won't fall behind other at-large teams who didn't play.

Just like last season, when ND was #4 in the CFP polls, #2 Texas and #3 Penn State lost and both stayed ahead of ND.

Essentially, the committee has 2 types of teams, the conference #1's and at-larges. BYU is already an at-large, so their status isn't going to change, whereas Texas Tech, should they lose, their status would change. They'd go from conference #1 to at-large and then be re-ranked as such.

If tech wins and Georgia loses you think Georgia gets the bye over tech?

 

[SoIll]

It’s over. The whole thing is run by retards.

 

[MPClinton22]

I never saw this the first time around...that's some real shit!

Once again proving - Miami fans, ND isn't the enemy. It's the absolute hoodwinking of CFB at large by the SEC, in all phases. Rankings, media, officiating, scheduling. All of it.

 

[Crazy Balki]

But this explains why that doesn't make sense. If that was their end goal, they had great reasoning to slot Miami up this week, and didn't take it. And now if they move Miami up, they'll be forced to explain why their assessments of the two teams will have materially changed when both were idle. It would have been WAY easier to explain that this week, with the new data point of Miami's good win @Pitt, vs when we both won't be playing.

I don't buy that explanation. ND would never have been ranked as high as they were if that were the case. They could've kept ND low, behind the likes of Alabama and BYU, and that would've made the eventual flip easier.

 

[mrmcgrail]

I think the committee is positioning itself for doomsday scenarios. They want to keep bama in regardless that's why they moved up. They need to keep Miami close in case duke wins the acc. They aren't going to allow a power 4 to not have a team in the playoff. If this weekend goes Georgia over bama, tt over byu, and Virginia over duke and nd is in

 

[aubeirish]

I never saw this the first time around...that's some real shit!

A slight hold

 

[MPClinton22]

I don't buy that explanation. ND would never have been ranked as high as they were if that were the case. They could've kept ND low, behind the likes of Alabama and BYU, and that would've made the eventual flip easier.

I don't see how this disproves my assessment. Not flipping ND and Miami this week, when they have a new data point for Miami being a top team, only to then do it when no new information is uncovered about either team when they're idle next week is just insanity to me. This all has to do with Bama/the SEC.

 

[Wild Bill]

Conferences are also comically big and stupid now. The ACC has a 17 way tie for second place and Duke, a team that lost to the two good ACC teams they played, and lost pretty much every OOC game they played is representing the conference.

Virginia, is also in the title game, having lost to NC State in a game that doesnt count against their conference record because their lame ADs didn’t schedule any other opponents

Obviously you can’t change the tie breaker rules mid season, but it’s a joke that Duke could win and keep the conference out of the CFP when there is a deserving team with the same conference record

Sure you can. Big 10 did it a few years ago to get OSU into the bigcg.

 

[Canes4theWin]

IF Bama wins and BYU loses, we would stay at 10.

As a Miami fan, that scenario is the only one I feel gives us a chance to jump ND

 

[Crazy Balki]

I don't see how this disproves my assessment. Not flipping ND and Miami this week, when they have a new data point for Miami being a top team, only to then do it when no new information is uncovered about either team when they're idle next week is just insanity to me. This all has to do with Bama/the SEC.

Oh I agree 100%. This flip was done to assure Alabama gets in.

Has nothing to do with ND-Miami.

 

[T-Boone]

the more I think about it the guaranteed spot for the weaker conference champs is stupid if they haven't played anyone close to good. It should just go off their ranking which would reflect if they have played any good teams.

 

[Crazy Balki]

As a Miami fan, that scenario is the only one I feel gives us a chance to jump ND

Problem is that BYU wouldn't drop with a loss. You can't drop at-large teams that lost CCGs in favor of other at-large teams who were IDLE.

See last year. ND was behind Penn State and Texas going into CCG week, both lost and both stayed ahead of ND.

 

[Crazy Balki]

the more I think about it the guaranteed spot for the weaker conference champs is stupid if they haven't played anyone close to good. It should just go off their ranking which would reflect if they have played any good teams.

I feel like, at least, conference champs should also require being ranked in the top 15. That seriously shouldn't be hard.

 

[Wild Bill]

Problem is that BYU wouldn't drop with a loss. You can't drop at-large teams that lost CCGs in favor of other at-large teams who were IDLE.

See last year. ND was behind Penn State and Texas going into CCG week, both lost and both stayed ahead of ND.

I get your point but I don't think the committee gives a shit about precedent.

I think the path for Miami is both BYU and bama getting dragged in their ccg.

 

[T-Boone]

Anyway the point is this. ND can't afford to lose 2 games - very simple.
Next season should be okay as we have 2 weak games to start, our coordinators are locked in, Schrauth should be in and there is no QB confusion.

 

[Canes4theWin]

Sure you can. Big 10 did it a few years ago to get OSU into the bigcg.

I was kind of thinking there could be a chance that is happened, but the truth is, the ACC should’ve had better tie breakers to begin with.

And the idea that next season we’re going to a 9 game conference schedule for all but one team is so stupid too. We’re going to run into more controversy. Add another team to our incompetent conference and bring back the divisions. Let the division champs play each other. Easy!

 

[IrelandIrish]

I would tell all of your folks to start spamming X this week. ND should not have dropped any spots and the committee is now sporting politics like americans love to do. Miami and alabama have two bad losses and texas does to. X has been governors of the florida state and others spamming for miami and alabama to get ahead of nd. its wrong and too much money involved

 

[Riddickulous]

Anyway the point is this. ND can't afford to lose 2 games - very simple.
Next season should be okay as we have 2 weak games to start, our coordinators are locked in, Schrauth should be in and there is no QB confusion.

I think a 10-2 ND would make it in most years. This year they had absolutely zero luck with upsets and have the misfortune of possibly going head-to-head with the team that beat them.

 

[Kingbish01]

Assuming by your username you are a Miami fan, I agree totally that your team is better than Ole Miss, OU, and Alabama. OU and OM are just so unbalanced as a team for me to really like their odds. They sport the two worst units in the playoff field (OM's defense and OU's offense) and that is putting aside OM's obvious coaching chaos. If you examine OM vs BYU it's pretty obvious they are ranked where they are respectively because of their conference affiliations.

And Bama, well I've watched 4 or 5 of their games and have not been impressed with them. They have flashes of being extremely dangerous, but then look very bad for long stretches of games. Ty Simpson is either god mode or he plays like he's never seen a football before in his life with almost no in between.

I think Miami would struggle with Oklahoma. Beck likes to piss down his leg when rattled and they'd rattle him. Could Miami win even if he throws 4 ints, ya ..but that's the kind of game I could see it being.