2025 College Football Playoffs

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You can keep calling me names but I’ve been pretty spot on the last few weeks.

You’re only here to shit down your leg, and post chicken little shit.

You still spot on with those 247 rumours that you never substantiated because you knew you were just trolling?

You never miss an opportunity to get excited at a bad possibility.
 

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BYU winning is the only thing that should scare us at this point. The "Miami will jump ND next week" narrative is all manufactured propaganda bull shit, unless the committee has a flair for the dramatic (and are assholes).

Everyone seems to protect Texas Tech, but if they lose against BYU are they really worthy? Looking at who they played, I am not so sure. Either way hoping for them to win...
 
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SEC having an 8 game conference schedule also caused a lot of this. Half the 11-1/10-2 teams in that conference would have an additional loss with the 9th conference game.
That's going to change next year? I don't follow this stuff closely.
 

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The people in charge have no idea how all this works either, so don’t feel bad.


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That's what I figured haha. Would love to see our Irish there, but I am going to have a great time either way.
 

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The committee's main problem is this rankings show that ESPN insists on having. ESPN likes it because it stirs debate and gets mad ratings.

But, it hurts confidence in the process. If the committee only ranked them 1 time, then explained it, even with somewhat specious reasoning, people would be a lot more accepting. Instead, we have conferences, teams, coaches and fans showing their asses for 6 weeks, nobody acts like they know how it works, and pants get pissed.

Oh, but the 4 letter made some money.
 

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watch... Alabama loses but they stay put because "science" I mean SEC is a hard conference, and BYU loses by one score to a top 4 team and BYU jumps us. Because why not.
 

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I never called anyone a "bedwetter"; I assumed our odds were 80% or so even going 10-2, and getting left out was a decent possibility. But some IE posters really, really want everyone to know how (presumably) right they were about this. Maybe let it go?
 

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If Tech and Georgia take care of business I anticipate we end going to Oklahoma first round.
 

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Quick summary:

Bama jumped us in anticipation of them losing the SEC CG but when they do we jump them and have a buffer between us and Miami all the while Bama still makes the playoffs.

We need Texas Tech to beat BYU and ND is in. Everything else is just click bait and bullshit to get us talking about the playoffs.
I hope this is true. But, it also requires Bama to lose to a team they already beat while putting us on the chopping block should BYU win, or lose.
 

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This pretty much sums up my feelings on this - it all makes sense as a way to protect Alabama and the SEC


Here is why I think a lot of people are overly paranoid about the possibility of Miami leapfrogging ND next week:

1. If the committee really wanted to have Miami leapfrog Notre Dame, they would have done it already. They're not going to suddenly say "Oh wow. Miami beat Notre Dame in week 1? I had no idea. This changes everything!" The committee members have not been sequestered from the ND vs Miami media debate that has been going on for several weeks, and they will look like idiots if they wait until both teams are idle to have Miami pass them. And I don't think they want to look like idiots.

2. If the committee really wanted to have Bama remain ahead of ND after a loss while Miami leapfrogs ND, then they would not have kept BYU in front of Miami. If they wanted to prevent the obvious contradiction of saying "The #9 team won't be punished for losing a CCG to the #3 team, but the #11 team will be punished for losing to the #4 team", then there was a very easy way to avoid that. They could have very easily rewarded Miami for their road win over ranked Pitt and punished BYU for sputtering to a 14-0 deficit in the first half vs UCF. But they didn't do that. Miami is one spot behind BYU, just like they were the week before. They will look like idiots if they punish a BYU loss more heavily than a Bama loss (assuming similar margins of loss), and I don't think they want to look like idiots.

3. If the committee really wanted to avoid the awkwardness of Bama being the last team out two years in a row, then they would do exactly what they've done - build some cushion to allow them to drop 1 spot after a loss but still be in.

4. If the committee really wanted to avoid the awkwardness of having Bama being kicked out FOR losing a CCG the year after they were kicked out BY a team who lost their CCG, then they would do exactly what they've done - build some cushion to allow them to drop 1 spot after a loss but still be in.

5. If the committee really wanted to avoid the awkwardness of Bama being kicked out by a team from the shitty ACC conference two years in a row, then they would do exactly what they've done - build some cushion to allow them to drop 1 spot after a loss but still be in.

6. There is an assumption that the committee wants to avoid rematches in the first round if they can do so gracefully. If they really want to avoid rematches in the first round, why would it rank Oklahoma #8 and Alabama #9? As revressbo explained in the post linked below, they have given themselves the flexibility to make Alabama drop one spot to #10 with a loss and move up to #7 with a win. Assuming a Texas Tech win over BYU, Notre Dame would be the beneficiary and move up to #9 (just as idle Indiana leapfrogged SMU last year). However, if BYU wins and Bama loses, the committee would be forced to choose between Bama and ND. Unless Bama embarrasses itself or their QB gets hurt, I agree with everyone else's presumption that they will remain in front of ND for reasons 3, 4, and 5 above. The point is, the purpose of putting Bama in front of ND is to give themselves flexibility.

7. I didn't watch the show tonight but I heard that the chairman said it's possible for idle teams to switch places, which was the opposite of what the chairman said last year. I believe last year's guy misspoke and never should have said that in the first place. Since they still have a process of re-voting every week, there is always at least a theoretical mechanism for last week's debates to be relitigated this week, for people to change their mind. But that's mostly theoretical, I wouldn't expect it to happen very often and I don't expect it to happen next week with Miami & ND. Again, if they really wanted Miami to be ahead of ND then they would have done it already. I can't overstate that enough.

I believe Occam's Razor is that the committee members (a) think they are smart enough to conspire for desired results and smart enough to avoid foreseeable scenarios that will make them look like idiots; (b) ARE conspiring to get Bama into the tournament over ND in the event that BYU wins; and (c) are NOT conspiring to get Miami in over ND in the event that BYU loses - based on their actions/inactions over the past few weeks there is more evidence that the opposite is true.

I'll sadly eat crow and grab a pitchfork with the rest of you if I'm wrong about this, but I believe Miami is dead and it will be easy for the committee to defend: They lost to two unranked teams, which is something that NONE of the other Top 10 playoff teams have done either this year or last year. And they should say out loud that it's not absurd for other factors to overcome the head to head result because it happened in 1993.
 

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The obvious truth is both Miami and Notre Dame are among the ten best teams in the country and the SEC doesnt deserve 5 teams to get in. They’re getting preferential treatment and are overrated.
We are very much in agreement on this. The SEC getting more than 30% of their members into a 12 team playoff is truly asinine.
 

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Could someone explain the likely scenario if byu and Georgia lose? Wouldn’t Georgia move down, but not behind us, and byu move down behind Miami?
 

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This pretty much sums up my feelings on this - it all makes sense as a way to protect Alabama and the SEC

Yeah, but its possible they think ND is better than Miami but since Miami won head-to-head, they want to wait to flip them until Miami is right behind ND. So the committee isn't giving the head-to-head excessive weight and only pushes Miami above ND when they are already right behind them.
 

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We are very much in agreement on this. The SEC getting more than 30% of their members into a 12 team playoff is truly asinine.
It’s total bullshit and they use preseason rankings and bs media pressure that leads to circular reasoning

It’s so annoying and frustrating. Oklahoma has a horrible offense and I don’t see them having a real chance to go far in the playoffs their QB has been playing poorly since his thumb injury.

Ole miss lost their head coach and apparently that’s not an issue lol.

Bama gets helped by the refs against a coach less Auburn team and moves ahead of ND who has looked locked in. Theyre just protecting bama

I don’t know what they’re going to do but it’s lame that the sec is always getting preferential treatment and ruining college football
 

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Could someone explain the likely scenario if byu and Georgia lose? Wouldn’t Georgia move down, but not behind us, and byu move down behind Miami?
Who knows? They would have the same record as Miami, playing an extra game and would’ve lost to the #4 team in the country twice.
 

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The AD needs to get on the horn with the Rainbow Warriors in Hawaii and schedule a 13th game for that additional data point Saturday. Heck should have stayed in Cali to make a shorter flight.
 

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Yeah, but its possible they think ND is better than Miami but since Miami won head-to-head, they want to wait to flip them until Miami is right behind ND. So the committee isn't giving the head-to-head excessive weight and only pushes Miami above ND when they are already right behind them.
But this explains why that doesn't make sense. If that was their end goal, they had great reasoning to slot Miami up this week, and didn't take it. And now if they move Miami up, they'll be forced to explain why their assessments of the two teams will have materially changed when both were idle. It would have been WAY easier to explain that this week, with the new data point of Miami's good win @Pitt, vs when we both won't be playing.
 

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I think they actually said after last year with SMU that they *would* consider dropping teams for bad CCG performances.
Meaning Joey McGuire can still navigate TT to a win while taking his foot off the gas to avoid a blowout win of his conference peer ensuring they both get in.
 

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Could someone explain the likely scenario if byu and Georgia lose? Wouldn’t Georgia move down, but not behind us, and byu move down behind Miami?
Bama moves to 4 and gets a bye. Georgia takes the 5 seed and gets a cupcake at home, Oregon takes 6 spot against a cupcake, ole miss gets that ass whipped in Oxford by ND and AnM will host Oklahoma.

Miami gets the middle finger and BYU goes home to soak.
 

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But this explains why that doesn't make sense. If that was their end goal, they had great reasoning to slot Miami up this week, and didn't take it. And now if they move Miami up, they'll be forced to explain why their assessments of the two teams will have materially changed when both were idle. It would have been WAY easier to explain that this week, with the new data point of Miami's good win @Pitt, vs when we both won't be playing.
They will say they had more time to analyze the data and at attention to Clay Travis and other pussy Miami fans.
 
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Listen here, bed wetters

At the beginning of the season, we all thought if we lost to Miami and Texas A&M that we wouldn’t make the playoffs. Now we’re sitting here with good odds to still make the playoffs, but a chance it doesn’t happen. We would’ve taken that in a heartbeat back in September, so let’s not act entitled

Miami is not jumping us.
BYU loses and we are 100% in.
If BYU wins and Alabama loses big, there’s a sliver of hope that we’re still in.

It is what it is. Get over it
 

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It’s total bullshit and they use preseason rankings and bs media pressure that leads to circular reasoning

It’s so annoying and frustrating. Oklahoma has a horrible offense and I don’t see them having a real chance to go far in the playoffs their QB has been playing poorly since his thumb injury.

Ole miss lost their head coach and apparently that’s not an issue lol.

Bama gets helped by the refs against a coach less Auburn team and moves ahead of ND who has looked locked in. Theyre just protecting bama

I don’t know what they’re going to do but it’s lame that the sec is always getting preferential treatment and ruining college football
Both Oklahoma and Bama should be out, the whole thing is incredibly suspect to anyone with eyeballs. Frankly BYU/Miami/ND are all getting screwed here to varying degrees. 5 out of 12 spots (and 4 out of 7 at large spots) going to one conference is obscene and not the point of a "playoff" at all.
 
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