2025 College Football Playoffs

[GATTACA!]

I don’t agree that jumping us is irrelevant. That would clearly be rewarding their win

They will be the conference champion.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Any chance we jump Oklahoma? If so, that ensures that we are in and there is no “doomsday” scenario.

I'd say yes but it depends on what the committe values more. Also, if Oklahoma flips with us and the "doomsday" scenario happens (Bama and BYU winning) it would trade one SEC team for another SEC team in the field. Right now Bama is in a precarious situation anyway if BYU wins and Bama loses. Oklahoma being at 9 just would mean they take Oklahomas place with a win in SECCG, instead of ND.

 

[EvilleIrish]

Any chance we jump Oklahoma? If so, that ensures that we are in and there is no “doomsday” scenario.

No

 

[Wild Bill]

I don’t agree that jumping us is irrelevant. That would clearly be rewarding their win

I get your point - you shouldn’t get the reward without the risk. But I think the counterargument is that the reward for making the CCG is exactly that - you get a chance to significantly move up without the risk of moving down.

Not sure which one’s actually “right.” I guess it just depends on your perspective.

Based on the current rankings, I’m not even sure the threat of Bama jumping ND only matters if BYU wins. Nobody knows which path will be better, and both are on teh road.

Where it actually gets interesting is if BYU wins and Bama loses a close one. If Bama sits behind ND on Tuesday, they’d have to jump ND to avoid losing the final spot to BYU.

The committee should make it easy on themselves - bump Miami to 10 this week and let Bama and BYU control their own destiny.

Any chance we jump Oklahoma? If so, that ensures that we are in and there is no “doomsday” scenario.

I think there's a slight chance. OK has looked like shit. SOoners dropped two spots in teh updated FPI and one spot in the SP+. ND stayed the same. 3 in FPI and 5 in SP+.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

No

please articulate

 

[sfk324]

No

Nice to see you found something to do with your time besides Freeman fear mongering.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Here is the thing. In no way should Bama jump us this week by barely beating Auburn. Say if ND is 9 and Bama is 10. Bama will play #4 Georgia next week and if they lose is the committee really gonna not drop them? That basically be saying that our 1 point loss to A&M never happened because they are ranked 3rd.

 

[ozzman]

Tom fornelli saying the quiet part out loud today on the cover 3 podcast. "The media claims outrage that ND is in front of Miami and then the poll comes out every week that's made by these media people continue to have ND in front of Miami. We're all trying to find the guy who did this."

 

[burmafrd1944]

the Auto Bids is the biggest factor in all this stupidity

all 12 should be decided by which 12 are the best teams as of the end of the first week in December.

None of this worrying about which mediocre team from the ACC gets in or which G5 team stinks the least.

 

[IrishTusker]

Last year the committee did drop several CCG losers by 1 or 2 spots (Texas, PSU, and SMU). But none of them dropped out. I'm not convinced they will never drop a CCG loser out, as some people think, and Bama already has two losses. But they are playing UGA (not, say, a team ranked 15 or something) and they already beat UGA in Athens. So I would be pretty surprised if they drop Bama out for losing.

 

[BoredIrish]

It's not the committee's fault that the ACC has some stupid tiebreaker that enables an unranked team with five losses to make their championship over the #11 team that is 10-2.

Notre Dame is one of the best 12 teams in the country. There is no Miami vs Notre Dame debate.

Miami is also one of the 12 best teams in the country. The debate is why the ACC screwed their best team out of a playoff berth. This is an ACC issue which has nothing to do with Notre Dame.

 

[GATTACA!]

Last year the committee did drop several CCG losers by 1 or 2 spots (Texas, PSU, and SMU). But none of them dropped out. I'm not convinced they will never drop a CCG loser out, as some people think, and Bama already has two losses. But they are playing UGA (not, say, a team ranked 15 or something) and they already beat UGA in Athens. So I would be pretty surprised if they drop Bama out for losing.

If you ignore the SEC CG Alabama is already first out if BYU wins. So the committee would have to reward them for losing ie reward them for making the SEC CG at all to include them. Which if they were planning on doing they could, but won’t, do this week.

Alabama is irrelevant.

 

[Bane]

Last year the committee did drop several CCG losers by 1 or 2 spots (Texas, PSU, and SMU). But none of them dropped out. I'm not convinced they will never drop a CCG loser out, as some people think, and Bama already has two losses. But they are playing UGA (not, say, a team ranked 15 or something) and they already beat UGA in Athens. So I would be pretty surprised if they drop Bama out for losing.

Right, but none of those teams were two loss bubble teams going into their conference title game. I'm not saying they would definitely drop Alabama out, but they're on the bubble right now and have a bad FSU loss weighing them down. I also think that Miami is just a better team than Alabama, full stop.

 

[Bane]

Well, "Sark" you could have put yourself in a better position to have a better record by, I dunno, BEATING BILLY FUCKING NAPIER.

Regardless of the merits of his position (there are none), this is just such a Charmin soft, bitchmade attitude I cannot respect it at all. If fate turns cruelly against us I could never imagine Marcus Freeman saying we should have not played A&M or Miami. You can quibble about the timing of playing those games, but I don't think any ND fan is out there saying we shouldn't have played them. We're lamenting that we should have won. This kind of soft attitude is why Texas will never amount to a pile of shit under Sark. Shortcuts have a way of turning into longcuts.

 

[Dale]

Gotta figure out a way to get Florida out of the SEC

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

If Navy is ranked at the back end of the CFP top 25 and neither Missouri nor Tennessee are, that could be the early spoiler for ND to flip with Oklahoma. We will see...

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Any chance we jump Oklahoma? If so, that ensures that we are in and there is no “doomsday” scenario.

I doubt it. But it would be huge, I agree.

 

[MPClinton22]

Gotta figure out a way to get Florida out of the SEC

The longhorns are delusional and entitled enough to think they could pull that off, tbh

 

[stlnd01]

Well, "Sark" you could have put yourself in a better position to have a better record by, I dunno, BEATING BILLY FUCKING NAPIER.

Regardless of the merits of his position (there are none), this is just such a Charmin soft, bitchmade attitude I cannot respect it at all. If fate turns cruelly against us I could never imagine Marcus Freeman saying we should have not played A&M or Miami. You can quibble about the timing of playing those games, but I don't think any ND fan is out there saying we shouldn't have played them. We're lamenting that we should have won. This kind of soft attitude is why Texas will never amount to a pile of shit under Sark. Shortcuts have a way of turning into longcuts.

He should take it up with the SEC.

A&M and Texas both played a top five non-conference road game early, but drew such different conference schedules. That’s why A&M made the playoffs and Texas will not.

 

[IrishLax]

The SEC already plays only 8 conference games. That "extra" game vs Ohio State just gets them to the normal baseline of 9. The entire conference is fraudulent.

Oh, and I'd have a lot more sympathy for Texas if they didn't struggle with Kentucky and Mississippi State lmao

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Well, "Sark" you could have put yourself in a better position to have a better record by, I dunno, BEATING BILLY FUCKING NAPIER.

Regardless of the merits of his position (there are none), this is just such a Charmin soft, bitchmade attitude I cannot respect it at all. If fate turns cruelly against us I could never imagine Marcus Freeman saying we should have not played A&M or Miami. You can quibble about the timing of playing those games, but I don't think any ND fan is out there saying we shouldn't have played them. We're lamenting that we should have won. This kind of soft attitude is why Texas will never amount to a pile of shit under Sark. Shortcuts have a way of turning into longcuts.

I'm so glad that through all of this, Bevacqua and Freeman haven't been absolute pansies about us potentially getting left out in a doomsday scenario. I know it helps that we've been ranked solidly in the CFP field, but Freeman did stomp for ND's playoff case after the Stanford game a bit.

He never said "maybe we should stop playing the Miamis and Texas A&Ms and just schedule another FCS opponent."

Absolute cowardice. Love how he mentions "Are we not supposed to schedule OSU?" Without mentioning losing to fucking Florida. Barely beat Arkansas, MSST, Kentucky and only beat UTEP by a whopping 17 points.

But let's focus on the OSU game week 1. I'm sure that's why the committee is leaving you out.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

The SEC already plays only 8 conference games. That "extra" game vs Ohio State just gets them to the normal baseline of 9. The entire conference is fraudulent.

Oh, and I'd have a lot more sympathy for Texas if they didn't struggle with Kentucky and Mississippi State lmao

Incredible timing on our two posts making similar points lol

 

[Bane]

He should take it up with the SEC.

A&M and Texas both played a top five non-conference road game early, but drew such different conference schedules. That’s why A&M made the playoffs and Texas will not.

I want to ask Texas fans the same question I had for the Bama and OM whiners last year: how many losses does it take for you to think you're no longer deserving of a playoff schedule? I mean, UF and Wisconsin had absolutely brutal schedules, should they get in? Obviously not, you don't credit for a difficult schedule if you lose that much, but how much in their minds is enough? To me, under a 12 team system, 3 losses is too much. 2 losses are the limit. I really think UT people are delusional enough that they think 8-4 should get them. I'm not sure some of them have a limit.

 

[Bane]

I'm so glad that through all of this, Bevacqua and Freeman haven't been absolute pansies about us potentially getting left out in a doomsday scenario. I know it helps that we've been ranked solidly in the CFP field, but Freeman did stomp for ND's playoff case after the Stanford game a bit.

He never said "maybe we should stop playing the Miami's and Texas A&Ms and just schedule another FCS opponent."

Absolute cowardice. Love how he mentions "Are we not supposed to schedule OSU?" Without mentioning losing to fucking Florida. Barely beat Arkansas, MSST, Kentucky and only beat UTEP by a whopping 17 points.

But let's focus on the OSU game week 1. I'm sure that's why the committee is leaving you out.

Right and even if Freeman would have been technically correct, I would never want a leader with that mindset. The schedule is the schedule, if you win your games you'll get in.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Lax said it.

I think the image of the SEC is drastically overrated this year. There's a lot of average to below average to bad teams in that league this year. Should've been no reason to lose to Florida. Sorry about their luck.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Lax said it.

I think the image of the SEC is drastically overrated this year. There's a lot of average to below average to bad teams in that league this year. Should've been no reason to lose to Florida. Sorry about their luck.

Incorrect. Haven't you heard that 8-4 in the SEC is 11-1 to anybody else?!

 

[IrishLax]

Lax said it.

I think the image of the SEC is drastically overrated this year. There's a lot of average to below average to bad teams in that league this year. Should've been no reason to lose to Florida. Sorry about their luck.

You look at SP+ and they have ZERO top 5 teams. Every single team is ranked higher by the CFP committee than their metrics suggest. Yet they are slated to get 5/12 playoff spots while everyone else fights over scraps. The playoff being half or more SEC + G5 teams is "fair" to no one.

 

[NDPhilly]

If Miami had like Purdue on the schedule instead of us, they would be ranked like 15 at best and have zero argument to get in. It goes both ways.

 

[NDMatt91]

If Texas didn't lose to Florida, they'd be in the playoff. They'd be ahead of Bama and Bama would be screwed, IMO.

 

[Huntr]

The SEC is going to a 9 conference game schedule starting next year.

Not sure what he's crying about. They'll have 1 P4 ooc game going forward