2025 College Football Playoffs

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I think the main thing with Miami is the committee doesn’t want to give the ACC two bids. Particularly a non ACC Championship game participant. It just makes no sense to “reward” the conference regardless of who Team #2 is
The ACC gets no favors from the big conferences. Mean.
 

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I’d rather play at Ole Miss or Oklahoma in the first round than at Oregon. But otherwise, yep.

The teams that feel strongest are Ohio State and Georgia. Let them, and A&M, beat each other up while we run over Bama and outclass Indiana. That seems fine.
Cool! The late night game @Stanford next weekend will be good prep for a trip to Eugene this time of year.
 

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For one, I'm never quite sure what the point of posts like this are, that a ND board is full of ND homers? Secondly, my problem is not with the argument Miami fans are making per se it's:
A)the fact they do the whole feigned shocked and outrage bit after EVERY SINGLE FUCKING RANKING is released. Coaches poll, AP, and the CFP committee. It's the same song and dance.

B)they cloak their arguments in "integrity of the game" and "honoring the results on the field" concern trolling language but were absolutely not pounding the table for Louisville to be ranked ahead of them when Louisville had the same record as them.

C)if the roles were reversed the entire national punditry class would absolutely not be pounding the table they way they are now.

As for jprue's comment, sure we did, but how often did that work out for us? The "eye test" was a bitter pill to swallow when we were weighed down by BK's mediocrity, but yet every single time we were pounded into submission by eye test darlings.

And fuck it, it's ND against the world. We have no conference to take up for us. Ara and Lou ruined too many talking heads' dreams when they were little so they all hate us. Basically every other fanbase hates us to the point they're allying with fucking Miami lol. So yeah, fuck it. Whatever benefits ND I'm for. If the committee favors us, so be it, we've earned the benefit of the doubt. Every other fanbase can choke on it.
You're not really this insecure... right?
 

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For one, I'm never quite sure what the point of posts like this are, that a ND board is full of ND homers? Secondly, my problem is not with the argument Miami fans are making per se it's:
A)the fact they do the whole feigned shocked and outrage bit after EVERY SINGLE FUCKING RANKING is released. Coaches poll, AP, and the CFP committee. It's the same song and dance.

B)they cloak their arguments in "integrity of the game" and "honoring the results on the field" concern trolling language but were absolutely not pounding the table for Louisville to be ranked ahead of them when Louisville had the same record as them.

C)if the roles were reversed the entire national punditry class would absolutely not be pounding the table they way they are now.

As for jprue's comment, sure we did, but how often did that work out for us? The "eye test" was a bitter pill to swallow when we were weighed down by BK's mediocrity, but yet every single time we were pounded into submission by eye test darlings.

And fuck it, it's ND against the world. We have no conference to take up for us. Ara and Lou ruined too many talking heads' dreams when they were little so they all hate us. Basically every other fanbase hates us to the point they're allying with fucking Miami lol. So yeah, fuck it. Whatever benefits ND I'm for. If the committee favors us, so be it, we've earned the benefit of the doubt. Every other fanbase can choke on it.
I'd estimate that 50%+ of national pundits think that ND should be ranked ahead of Miami
What's the point of a board with only homers? An echo chamber/circle jerk doesn't seem that appealing to me
 

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I'd estimate that 50%+ of national pundits think that ND should be ranked ahead of Miami
What's the point of a board with only homers? An echo chamber/circle jerk doesn't seem that appealing to me
Yep. Most of the pro-Miami bloviating comes from a small handful of pundits like Bruce Feldman (oddly doesn't mention that he's a Miami alum) and Ari Wasserman (sincerely thinks that recruiting stars are everything and thus a fanboy for flashy teams like Miami).
Most of the unbiased people who've actually watched the games seem to agree we're just better than they are.
 

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So do you guys think it is safe to say that ND will be going on the road in the first round? What do you think needs to happen for us to host?

Obviously these three games would help...
LSU upsets Oklahoma
Washington upsets Oregon
Miss St. upsets Ole Miss



Any other games/scenarios?
Doubt that LSU can muster enough to beat Okl @ home. Best hope is one or both of the visitors (highly unlikely for both) of the 2 other games going Irish way.
 

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So do you guys think it is safe to say that ND will be going on the road in the first round? What do you think needs to happen for us to host?

Obviously these three games would help...
LSU upsets Oklahoma
Washington upsets Oregon
Miss St. upsets Ole Miss


Any other games/scenarios?
I think we need one of these three just to make sure we are in.
 

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So do you guys think it is safe to say that ND will be going on the road in the first round? What do you think needs to happen for us to host?

Obviously these three games would help...
LSU upsets Oklahoma
Washington upsets Oregon
Miss St. upsets Ole Miss


Any other games/scenarios?
Technically just one of those happen would slot us up to 8 for the time being and a first round home game, but we don't know how the rest of the season will shake out so probably 2 out of 3 would probably be required to give a little buffer.
 

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Idk, looking at Texas Tech's schedule, who on there is an impressive win. The Irish would easily be unbeaten against that schedule.
 

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I honestly think we are in a bad position at 9. If Alabama wins the SEC championship we will be 10. If BYU loses the Big 12 championship, Utah is the only team between ND and Miami. At that point are we in the same “tier “ as Miami and they’d start to consider head to head? Obviously if Pitt wins none of this matters but from what I’ve seen that’s not very likely. Miami’s will dominate both lines
 

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I honestly think we are in a bad position at 9. If Alabama wins the SEC championship we will be 10. If BYU loses the Big 12 championship, Utah is the only team between ND and Miami. At that point are we in the same “tier “ as Miami and they’d start to consider head to head? Obviously if Pitt wins none of this matters but from what I’ve seen that’s not very likely. Miami’s will dominate both lines
Miami does not matter.
 

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I honestly think we are in a bad position at 9. If Alabama wins the SEC championship we will be 10. If BYU loses the Big 12 championship, Utah is the only team between ND and Miami. At that point are we in the same “tier “ as Miami and they’d start to consider head to head? Obviously if Pitt wins none of this matters but from what I’ve seen that’s not very likely. Miami’s will dominate both lines
I think Vandy might jump Miami in this week's rankings. I think the committee likes us and is looking for reasons to include us in the postseason. I mean, Miami just jumped Vandy this last week so it's not like Miami has been solidly ahead of Vandy for the duration of the rankings.
 

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Miami does not matter.
Yeah, people are reading too much into the committee chair's statement about how head to head isn't relevant until we're in the same tier. He just said that if we happen to be it will be a "major data point" but he didn't say it was automatic that Miami would be ahead of us. Even if Miami beats Pitt this weekend, zero chance they look as good as us doing it and so the committee can point to the multiple other points of data that have us solidly ahead of Miami.
 

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Only thing I don't love about that is that the final was 37-15. Should have really been a 44-0 game. The offense gave them ten points and then Narduzzi's last second timeout TD. I could see Miami winning by more than 22.
 

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Only thing I don't love about that is that the final was 37-15. Should have really been a 44-0 game. The offense gave them ten points and then Narduzzi's last second timeout TD. I could see Miami winning by more than 22.
They didn't beat VT by 22, highly doubt they beat Pitt like we did.
 

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So we want to see Auburn, Miss St, Ga Tech and Texas go 2-2 this week right?

I'll be betting on Pitt - Miami in Pittsburgh, below freezing for the whole game. Miami is so busy worrying about ND they forget to worry about Pitt. Timmy Beck due for a pick or two. 6.5 point favorite vs a team we beat by 22 two weeks ago. Pitt winning the ACC for yet another ND transitive ACC title would be glorious.

We are due for some chaos - some of these top 12 will be peaking ahead, ALL are on the road, tons of rivalries.
 

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We just need one of these and it's basically a lock:

Washington beats Oregon
or
Miss State beats Ole Miss
or
LSU beats OU
or
Auburn beats Bama

Then Pitt beats Miami for good measure which I think is going to happen.
 

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We just need one of these and it's basically a lock:

Washington beats Oregon
or
Miss State beats Ole Miss
or
LSU beats OU
or
Auburn beats Bama

Then Pitt beats Miami for good measure which I think is going to happen.
Agreed. I think our last safety net is T Tech beating BYU. If BYU wins and none of the above happens I think we are in serious trouble.
 

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We just need one of these and it's basically a lock:

Washington beats Oregon
or
Miss State beats Ole Miss
or
LSU beats OU
or
Auburn beats Bama

Then Pitt beats Miami for good measure which I think is going to happen.
Sorry guys. That one ain't happenin'....
 

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We just need one of these and it's basically a lock:

Washington beats Oregon
or
Miss State beats Ole Miss
or
LSU beats OU
or
Auburn beats Bama

Then Pitt beats Miami for good measure which I think is going to happen.

The lock is ND beats the tree by 30. We control our destiny IMO. All the years of SEC "eye test" and they are going to ignore the ND this year? (and the ND $$$)

The opportunity is moving up b/c of chaos.
 

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Should Vanderbilt beat Tennessee this week, what's the likelihood of them getting in? Losses are 14-30 at Alabama (a lot closer than the score indicated) and 31-34 at Texas. They'd log wins against VT, South Carolina, LSU, Mizzou, Auburn, Kentucky, and Tennessee.
 

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Only thing I don't love about that is that the final was 37-15. Should have really been a 44-0 game. The offense gave them ten points and then Narduzzi's last second timeout TD. I could see Miami winning by more than 22.
I could see it as well. Cristobal will use that as a motivating factor for sure. Game is at noon on the road just like ND. If it happens, it is what it is. Narduzzi will put in his two cents for good measure since he played both. Just stay off X b/c the chorus against ND will get much louder.
 

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We just need one of these and it's basically a lock:

Washington beats Oregon
or
Miss State beats Ole Miss
or
LSU beats OU
or
Auburn beats Bama

Then Pitt beats Miami for good measure which I think is going to happen.
None of these will happen
 

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The lock is ND beats the tree by 30. We control our destiny IMO. All the years of SEC "eye test" and they are going to ignore the ND this year? (and the ND $$$)

The opportunity is moving up b/c of chaos.
That's just not true. If ND slips to 11 because of BYU winning and Bama winning the SEC we will be out due to ACC champ getting an auto bid.
 

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I could see it as well. Cristobal will use that as a motivating factor for sure. Game is at noon on the road just like ND. If it happens, it is what it is. Narduzzi will put in his two cents for good measure since he played both. Just stay off X b/c the chorus against ND will get much louder.
You already know Narduzzi will be fluffing the conference opponent and inevitably say some dumb sh*t.
 

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Narduzzi vs Cristobal -- who has the most coaching blunders in this head to head match-up?
 
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